usctrojancpa
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Irvinecommuter said:
Ahhh yes, the high speed rail to nowhere expect a big cost blackhole. Fix the roads, bridges, and widen the freeways first.
California Politics: Moonbeam thread?
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Ahhh yes, the high speed rail to nowhere expect a big cost blackhole. Fix the roads, bridges, and widen the freeways first.
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jmoney74
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USCTrojanCPA said:
I heard the train is dead. They are trying to do something else. There goes tax dollars.
usctrojancpa
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jmoney74 said:
Big shock here...NOT! And these same people keep wanting to increase our taxes.
Lot of money being poured into electric cars by BMW and Mercedes . While Audi has taken the lead in autonomous driving . So these 3 together w American Tesla, have a sense of where the future is going . And no, consumer s don't always dictate what happens next. We are handed things on a plate we didn't even know we needed and then get to like it more than ever (iPhone anyone?) .
http://www.motortrend.com/news/electric-warriors-big-picture/
http://www.motortrend.com/news/electric-warriors-big-picture/
usctrojancpa
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fortune11 said:
Consumers don't always dictate what happens next but they can vote with their wallets. An example of that is the low sales for turbo 911s in the Porsche line up. Once consumers speak with their wallets, companies begin to listen.
USCTrojanCPA said:
voting w the wallet only works if you have an effective alternative option. if it comes down to being on a convenient "grid " and being part of a small band of resisters without the same benefits, most will choose the former. It is no secret that Toyota Camry is the country best selling car , a utilitarian transport vehicle (not counting the latest iteration which seems to be more sporty). Not everyone will be able to afford the option of being in a car of their choice if it happens to be a lot more onerous than being part of the "flow " .
Irvinecommuter
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fortune11 said:
Of course...but the idea is that you will have a wide selection in 22 years including used vehicles.
Irvinecommuter
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World is changing...go forward or get left behind.
http://fortune.com/2018/01/10/data-sheet-ford-ceo-jim-hackett-ces-2018/
morekaos
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I am going to give the Gov some rare props but with the caveat of, does he see something the rest of the legislator doesn't?...hmmmm...
Gov. Brown's final budget includes maxing out the state's Rainy Day Fund
Brown projects California will have $6.1 billion in extra cash. He proposed just $300 million in new spending next year with the rest going to reserves, including maxing out the state's Rainy Day Fund. His total general fund proposal spends $131.7 billion, plus an additional $59 billion in special funds and bonds used for specific purposes.
Brown used his annual budget address to warn, as he often does, that a recession will eventually occur and will inevitably lead to a severe drop in revenue. Saving money now will protect teachers' jobs and tamp down on college tuition hikes down the road, he said.
http://bakersfieldnow.com/news/local/gov-jerry-brown-wants-to-save-for-a-rainy-day
Gov. Brown's final budget includes maxing out the state's Rainy Day Fund
Brown projects California will have $6.1 billion in extra cash. He proposed just $300 million in new spending next year with the rest going to reserves, including maxing out the state's Rainy Day Fund. His total general fund proposal spends $131.7 billion, plus an additional $59 billion in special funds and bonds used for specific purposes.
Brown used his annual budget address to warn, as he often does, that a recession will eventually occur and will inevitably lead to a severe drop in revenue. Saving money now will protect teachers' jobs and tamp down on college tuition hikes down the road, he said.
http://bakersfieldnow.com/news/local/gov-jerry-brown-wants-to-save-for-a-rainy-day
Irvinecommuter
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morekaos said:
He has been doing this from day one. He has been an excellent governor and buffer against the more liberal members of the Legislature.
morekaos
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He is about to lose on the repeal of the gas tax and vehicle fee (tax).
California Gov. Jerry Brown?s ?freeloaders? barb riles gas-tax opponents
California Gov. Jerry Brown may have been trying to shame opponents of his gas-and-car tax increase by calling them ?freeloaders,? but so far the barb has backfired.
Assemblyman Travis Allen, who is spearheading a proposed ballot initiative to repeal Senate Bill 1, said he was inundated with calls after Mr. Brown slammed foes of the $0.12 tax hike on every gallon of gasoline, which kicks in Nov. 1.
?Our phone has been ringing off the hook,? Mr. Allen said. ?Californians are outraged. Jerry Brown signs a $52 billion tax increase with another billion to buy off legislators with no vote of the people, and, to top it off, now he?s calling them freeloaders.?
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/21/jerry-browns-california-freeloaders-hit-back-on-ta/
California Gov. Jerry Brown?s ?freeloaders? barb riles gas-tax opponents
California Gov. Jerry Brown may have been trying to shame opponents of his gas-and-car tax increase by calling them ?freeloaders,? but so far the barb has backfired.
Assemblyman Travis Allen, who is spearheading a proposed ballot initiative to repeal Senate Bill 1, said he was inundated with calls after Mr. Brown slammed foes of the $0.12 tax hike on every gallon of gasoline, which kicks in Nov. 1.
?Our phone has been ringing off the hook,? Mr. Allen said. ?Californians are outraged. Jerry Brown signs a $52 billion tax increase with another billion to buy off legislators with no vote of the people, and, to top it off, now he?s calling them freeloaders.?
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/21/jerry-browns-california-freeloaders-hit-back-on-ta/
Irvinecommuter
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morekaos said:
What? That's from May 2017.
You mean this repeal effort?
http://www.latimes.com/politics/ess...peal-california-gas-1514943117-htmlstory.html
irvinehomeowner
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Liar Loan said:
Wait... didn't that work for Trump.
usctrojancpa
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morekaos said:
Didn't Gray Davis get "recalled" for passing a gas and/or registration tax that pissed the hell out of people? Moonbeam seems to have forgotten not to mess with people's cost of gas and registration because that seems to fire up even the Democrats here in CA. haha
CA has been doing way better than other states economically when looking at credible data. Guess some of our policies are working very well.
http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/california-is-working/
http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/california-is-working/
morekaos
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A tax too far...moron politicians never learn.
Gas tax hike recalls Gray Davis
Writing in 2007, Los Angeles Times editorial writer Robert Greene stated, ?The defining issue of the 2003 recall was Gov. Gray Davis? tripling of the car tax, more officially known as the vehicle license fee. The defining issue of Arnold Schwarzenegger?s successful campaign to unseat Davis was his promised rollback of the said car tax.? Greene went on to document the relationship of the car tax, the gas tax and the diversion of this revenue from transportation infrastructure to shore up a chronically unbalanced state budget. The contortions and machinations by state officials behind this diversion of funds was difficult to follow. What was not difficult to follow, however, was the public?s disdain for the car tax, a fact to which former Gov. Davis will attest.
https://www.ocregister.com/2017/04/08/gas-tax-hike-recalls-gray-davis/
Gas tax hike recalls Gray Davis
Writing in 2007, Los Angeles Times editorial writer Robert Greene stated, ?The defining issue of the 2003 recall was Gov. Gray Davis? tripling of the car tax, more officially known as the vehicle license fee. The defining issue of Arnold Schwarzenegger?s successful campaign to unseat Davis was his promised rollback of the said car tax.? Greene went on to document the relationship of the car tax, the gas tax and the diversion of this revenue from transportation infrastructure to shore up a chronically unbalanced state budget. The contortions and machinations by state officials behind this diversion of funds was difficult to follow. What was not difficult to follow, however, was the public?s disdain for the car tax, a fact to which former Gov. Davis will attest.
https://www.ocregister.com/2017/04/08/gas-tax-hike-recalls-gray-davis/