What may happen to the vicinities around Villages of Columbus?

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I recommend this thread be locked. It didnt start with a very relevant or clear direction, nor did it seem like it was started to do anyone any good besides pitch a self serving business proposal? now its degenerated into Chinese vs Korean vs Japanese comparisons of tenancies. I see this thread going nowhere fast. Find another forum for this kind of stuff.

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These topics sometimes head into discussions about race (especially when bk is involved - thanks!). And the ethnic makeup of Irvine is related to many aspects of real estate here. Let's keep things focused in regards to how that is relevant to the discussion (if it isn't related, we may split the thread off). Some people are easily offended by these discussions but as long as there isn't anything malicious or personal, I'll keep this open.
 
Chinese businesses every 7 years or so will change its business name, owners or location. By transferring one of the above the tax trail basically come to a dead end. Others may not see as relevant but look at a broader picture as the community of Irvine. Many other ethnicity and Caucasians are shopping at the over priced 99 Ranch markets for better prices than Ralphs.

Many owners knew about their 7 year destiny and signed only a 7 year lease with the strip mall landlords. This expiration is near and there are no other alternatives with competitive rents viable for mom and pop retails or restaurants. Diamond Plaza's set up will fail as a typical Caucasian strip mall but its success is because of Asian specialty restaurants. Ethnic restaurants have a difficult time of getting approved as tenants in most Irvine retail centers. The only other option is Diamond Plaza.

A similar mall across the the street from Toscana Apt where the Daily Grills is struggled for decades. Diamond Plaza is similar to it with worse traffic access.

The demand is there. The survival of the fittest has not even begun. Prices for most Asian retails and restaurants in Irvine are 25 % higher than outside of Irvine. The area I described will be the next opportunity I hope the City of Irvine Planning is listening. The high density housing along the Jamboree corridor will fail if the adjacent industrial are not rezoned to activities more conducive to the lifestyles and demands of high density city dwellers.

VOC at its location is ideal if the transformations were to take place.
 
bkshopr said:
Chinese businesses every 7 years or so will change its business name, owners or location.
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Hmm... I would have thought they would change the name every 8 years. I bet the businesses that wait one more year do much better
 
Astute Observer said:
Irvine_Lurker said:
bkshopr said:
Chinese businesses every 7 years or so will change its business name, owners or location.
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Hmm... I would have thought they would change the name every 8 years. I bet the businesses that wait one more year do much better
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Those that made it into the eighth year obviously are fortunate. Those that last into the 9th year will last a long time. Those that can get to the 10th year anniversary will definitely do well.
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The transferring of ownership is to avoid tax investigations. The ones that made it to the 10th year have a good accountant.
 
MojoJD said:
I recommend this thread be locked. It didnt start with a very relevant or clear direction, nor did it seem like it was started to do anyone any good besides pitch a self serving business proposal? now its degenerated into Chinese vs Korean vs Japanese comparisons of tenancies. I see this thread going nowhere fast. Find another forum for this kind of stuff.
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I'm not sure what business is being proposed here.

But let's get back on topic:

"What may happen to the vicinities around Villages of Columbus?"

If it were up to no_vas... they would drop out of existence... but that's maybe because he's only 13% asian.

EDIT: Fixed post days later.
 
Is the Irvine Inn a permanent fixture ? IIRC, its is low-income housing. Right across the parking lot from the CostCo gasoline pumps.
 
asianinvasian said:
PadreBrian said:
Good point about the area needing a rezone
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Are they going to rezone the concrete factory? That and the waste management station are the only really bad parts.
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EIR and toxicity report will cost the owner big time and for the time being the RE land prices and financial return are not a motivating factor for rezoning.
 
bkshopr said:
usctrojanman29 said:
Serious Weapon said:
usctrojanman29 said:
bkshopr said:
QH Renter said:
I was curious what your data showed because there were relatively few Asians when I started elementary school in Irvine. There were a few Japanese and Vietnamese, but no Chinese or Koreans at that time. That changed pretty dramatically by the time I went to middle school (which would be consistent with the time frame you mentioned).
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Japanese and Korean can survive without their ethnic foods and market. Chinese can't. Early settlers to San Gabriel, Monterey park, Hacienda heights, Rowland Heights, Cerritos and Irvine were Japanese and Koreans. Soon came the Japanese and korean restaurants to service the population. Then the Taiwanese purchase the Japanese restaurants and tried to pretend sushi chef themselves but added a kitchen god in the kitchen and several thick Chinese yellow pages stacked by the register. Soon after that their relatives start a small Asian grocery or a small dumpling restaurant but neither lasted several years.

The original Asian population in any cities in modern time will never be Chinese. Most Chinese are not risk takers in places where they live and places to establish a business. They relied on predecessors like the Koreans and the Japanese.
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So basically what you are saying...Chinese are followers and not the trend setters.
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If there's a new cell phone that's about to drop, the Korean's are going to be the first to floss that shit(Guilty). Cars? Once again, the Hangooks are going be the first ones rolling up to any Asian plaza showing off their over priced M5.

It's genetics.
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I noticed that most Chinese people tend to be more conservative and not as flashy as most other asians, including Koreans. Nothing wrong in seeing how things play out before driving in head first (case in point with the E46 M3s that had engine failures in the first few years of production).
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Most Chinese do not take risk but do follow sheeps. In the case of HELOC most just follow the HELOC sheep to the slaughter house. When targeting Chinese consumer demographic then aim for the leaders. Where do you find the leaders? Chinese church group fellowship leaders are a strong social group in Irvine. There are a lot of gossips as well as keeping up with the Wongs or Wangs there. Others are the core group volunteers at the Chinese Cultural Center or the UCI Chinese cultural affair volunteers. The key is to reach out to the active Chinese citizens in the communities.
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In heavily Asian Silicon Valley towns they tend to be the leaders of the school volunteer groups.
 
"most chinese do not take risk but do follow sheeps"

I completely agree with this statement and i'd add to those who were also sheep in the subprime crisis were lazy mexicans, smelly hawaiians, evil blacks, stupid poles, and ignorant white people with a sense of entitlement. I'd also add the federal government, state government, municipal government, banks, economists, and pundits.
 
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