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what would make you think koreans were the third largest group in irvine? i would guess because asian people too often spend time in only the asian community. you could slice it down further into particular nationalities. a korean person could easily live in southern calif, go to work in a korean business, buy food at a korean grocery store, see their korean doctor, go out to eat at a korean restaurants with their korean, and never encounter someone other than another korean if they wanted. at over time they come to believe the korean population is much bigger than it really is.

no offense, but get some perspective -- theres a bigger world out there.
 
I have lived in Irvine for a very long time and know it well. To certain degree I am to be blamed for the surge of Asian population since the early 90's. Being a specialists in the Asian culture I put my theory into real practice during the last recession and helped Chinese businesses established their foothold in Irvine. Restaurants and market was the strategy for the sluggish Westpark home sales. My neighbors prior to me moving were mostly Asian dwellers and flippers. More dwellers than flippers to say the least. The flippers saw their reflections from my feng shui mirror mounted to the front of my homes.

I started my blog a year ago outlining the idiosyncrasy of Chinese culture and the lack of social interaction outside of its race. Chinese are very good neighbors and they do not cause troubles in the neighborhood. Yes they are introverted socially but once the friendship has been established they are kind and respectful. They will never approach any neighbor for social acceptance.

The Stepford homogeneous quality of environment and social setting no longer align with my belief. As I have been a victim of crimes I found Irvine a safe haven. I was content but nonetheless unsure if this is the way I would want to live out for the rest of my life. I moved not long ago to a similar neighborhood setting where I grew up. I found that the not so perfect old city has a lot to offer than the many years I lived in Irvine. My goal is different from others and there is no right or wrong. My neighbors are mostly Hispanics.

Panda, you have well intention like mostly Asians often are. I also understand the sarcasm is common among Asians and not to be taken seriously. Race is a sensitive subject here and readers outside your culture not knowing the Asian context perceive comments very differently.

Since you are religious and your positive testimonies and posting contents will be the window for others to see the attribute of your religion. Try to avoid hypocrisy.

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graphrix said:
And, to add to this point... my neighbor is Mexican. He has a nice ocean view property in Baja, a home in my hood (the low lands of VP), several cash flow positive rental properties, a business owner, and two sons that go to CSUF (not because it was cheap, they chose to go there). He is very cool, and has invited me to his ocean view property with his family. I take care of his house when he is gone, and he does the same. I can talk to him about the reality of the housing market. My Asian neighbors, well not so much. While I enjoy my privacy, and it is respected by all, but I am glad that the Mexican has my back and I have his. What neighbor would you like to have?

Oh, and before anyone gets offended, this post was approved by my Korean best friend, and the fact that I am from the Spanish Villa Lobos family. I will stop here, ignorance is bliss.
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There's a lot of truth in graph's posts. A while back 2000-2002, half of my neighbors were cauc or european. as they upgraded and sold their homes more and more asian have moved in. You'll notice that the neighborhood, for better or for worse, gets quieter, no one is outside in front of their houses. My asian neighbors don't spend their time in the front yard, or washing their car, or playing with the kids in the street. When I take my girls to ride their bikes/trikes in our cul de sac, there's not a single soul around. There used to kids playing outside, catching ball, but no more. I guess my asian neighbors are too busy inside to socialize.

Not saying it's good or bad, as some might even prefer this. However, the sense of a "community" can very different.
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lets just be honest... it is not about race but more about money. if your neighbor is rich and well educated, it is all good, no matter what race they are. if they are poor and uneducated and cause trouble then they are bad neighbor. IMO i think it is more about money.
 
jbatzmaru said:
lets just be honest... it is not about race but more about money. if your neighbor is rich and well educated, it is all good, no matter what race they are. if they are poor and uneducated and cause trouble then they are bad neighbor. IMO i think it is more about money.
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I agree.

In general, Mexicans have the lowest education level compared to other ethnics. If you were to look at any public high school in orange county, there's always a large latino population but at university level, pretty much asians and caucasians have the majority.

I guess Mexican families don't emphasize the importance of education to their kids as much as other ethnics.
 
I disagree. It's not about money. I would rather live next door to a hard working janitor who works 70 hours a week rather than one of those overnight millionaire mortgage-brokers-gone-wild who parties all night long, blares music and the constant stream of people going in and out of his home.
 
In general, Mexicans have the lowest education level compared to other ethnics. If you were to look at any public high school in orange county, there's always a large latino population but at university level, pretty much asians and caucasians have the majority.

I guess Mexican families don't emphasize the importance of education to their kids as much as other ethnics.
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whoaaaaa nelly...

if you think there aren't a lot of hispanics in our local universities, then maybe you didn't go to college
 
acpme said:
In general, Mexicans have the lowest education level compared to other ethnics. If you were to look at any public high school in orange county, there's always a large latino population but at university level, pretty much asians and caucasians have the majority.

I guess Mexican families don't emphasize the importance of education to their kids as much as other ethnics.
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whoaaaaa nelly...

if you think there aren't a lot of hispanics in our local universities, then maybe you didn't go to college
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Actually, judging by his posts, and misspelling, he didn't get very far in high school.
 
Peer groups at school are important. Friends influenced kids much more impacting than parents. In Irvine and Tustin the peer pressure in school academic even influenced the laziest getting average grades. In Santa Ana most peer groups spent more time on the street than school or home. Survival is much more important than education.

In junior colleges the Hispanic enrollment is much higher than Asian and Caucasian but only the very best from the community colleges transfer to the 4 year universities. Numerous reasons for local colleges having high enrollment are cheap tuition, relaxed academic criteria, poor students can work and live at home and share the burden of helping out family by staying close by.

acpme said:
In general, Mexicans have the lowest education level compared to other ethnics. If you were to look at any public high school in orange county, there's always a large Latino population but at university level, pretty much asians and caucasians have the majority.

I guess Mexican families don't emphasize the importance of education to their kids as much as other ethnics.
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whoaaaaa nelly...

if you think there aren't a lot of hispanics in our local universities, then maybe you didn't go to college
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Let's get this thread back on topic, please:

I moved from the SGV where I grew up, to Irvine because:

1. It seemed and I still believe it's a great place to raise a family.

2. Irvine has a great public school system.

3. People are in general, very respectful and courteous regardless of ethnic background.

4. Much better weather than the SGV.

5. Plenty of jobs in my field (enterprise software)

6. Top notch infrastructure.

7. Convenience to SNA versus driving 40 mins to burbank or LAX from the SGV.

8. Decent asian food to keep me here, although I haven't been able to find any good thai places.

9. Convenient shopping (South Coast, Fashion Island, District, Spectrum, TR Marketplace.

Everything is a 20min+ drive in the SGV with it's horrible traffic, Target, Costco, you name it.
 
i like the fact there's no green people in irvine. i'm ok with white, black, yellow, and various shades of tan though.

also i like the fact it's close to work, has safe streets to walk and bike, lots of parks, plenty of trader joes, and decent weather.
 
acpme said:
i like the fact there's no green people in irvine. i'm ok with white, black, yellow, and various shades of tan though.

also i like the fact it's close to work, has safe streets to walk and bike, lots of parks, plenty of trader joes, and decent weather.
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If Irvine didn't have a Trader Joes, it would be no better than Santa Ana. Trader Joes is what makes those uni high kids so smart.
 
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WHAT I DISLIKE ABOUT IRVINE

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0) Lack of positive cash-flow properties that I can invest in (might get better later)

1) Fewer selection in decent Chinese restaurants

2) Fewer selection in decent Korean restaurants

3) Fewer selection in decent Japanese restaurants

4) Fewer selection in decent Thai restaurants

5) Fewer selection in decent Vietnamese restaurants

6) Fewer selection in decent restaurants

7) Lack of selection in restaurants run by green people from Mars

8) Lack of green-colored people from Mars

9) People who spend too much time at work blogging and type in caps.
 
1. It's safe. To walk at night. Alone.

2. It's clean. And well-maintained.

3. "Bob the Builder" park (aka Bill Barber)

4. The Castle park (aka Northwood)

5. The rock at Blueberry park (aka Woodbury)

6. When I take a 9pm flight out of Oakland I am at my doorstep by 10:40pm

7. Facials at FaceLogic at the District

8. Diedrich's a 5-minute walk from home

9. My Persian next-door neighbor, Esmat. The sweetest, kindest old lady in the world who I communicate with via my son's preschool teacher since I don't speak Farsi

10. Orchard Hills. (okay, that won't apply until they build my house but...)
 
I like Irvine because:

1. It's a big city so it's not too exclusive.

2. It has Asian restaurants.

I don't like Irvine because:

1. It's too far from the coast.

2. It has no night life.

3. Unlike the beach, there's not a single good place to people watch.

If they started updating Huntington, I'll much much rather live there.

Speaking of which, HB is buiding a new shopping center by Main Street.
 
awgee said:
I have heard from African American friends that Irvine is not friendly to African Americans.

And speaking of Mexican and Korean, I am Mexican and I used to have a Korean girlfriend who lived in Irvine with her mother. Her mother would refer to me as "that dirty Mexican".

Well, you know that saying that success is the sweetest revenge? Her mother wanted grandchildren in the worst way. I now have three daughters who are drop dead gorgeous and smart. I wonder if she ever got her grandchildren.
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Irvine is friendly to African Americans, just not to the ones who try to act like they're in the ghetto. This is Irvine, not Compton. And yes, I'm Black, well half.
 
graphrix said:
acpme said:
i like the fact there's no green people in irvine. i'm ok with white, black, yellow, and various shades of tan though.

also i like the fact it's close to work, has safe streets to walk and bike, lots of parks, plenty of trader joes, and decent weather.
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If Irvine didn't have a Trader Joes, it would be no better than Santa Ana. Trader Joes is what makes those uni high kids so smart.
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SA has a TJs. Bristol and MacArthur. I shop there all the time and haven't gotten shot,
 
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