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wow, you might actually be someone who will benefit from the new program!
you might be just enough underwater, and still have the means.
you might be just enough underwater, and still have the means.
No_Such_Reality said:Anonymous said:Wow. Well then, I hope you live by your creed then and leave behind more created wealth (and by that, I mean actual physical or intellectual things than you consumed in your lifetime), rather than just shuffling money around, which creates nothing and benefits no one.
Not to just nitpick but... the entire recession and global crisis is the result of a credit crunch being caused by insolvency.
That credit crunch is quite simply caused by people no longer "the just shuffling money around"...
trrenter said:Who would lend someone money when the collateral is worth less then the loan? If you are marginally underwater this may make sense but wouldn't you need a reduction in principle? Oh that is taken care of in the next part of the plan...
trrenter said:If judges can reduce mortgages who would want to make mortgage loans? Wouldn't this make those loans very risky. Raising interest rates and limiting the amount of companies willing to make these loans.
xsocal land merchant said:I have a question relating to the reduction of payments or principle and who should receive benifits of those reductions.
If one had paid cash for a property in 2006 near the top of the market and according to comps it has lost value then should the government give a cash refund to the owner? If not then explain why not since the owner has lost "value" due to the falling market.
Why should the people who made bad decisions be rewarded and those who made what was at the time a prudent choice be penalized?
This is not hypothetical since I own 3 properties free of mortgages and certainly could have leveraged up to multi million dollar properties during the run up rather than be frugal and buy several smaller homes for cash.
Needless to say I have little empathy for those who overextended themselves or refied cash out of home that they have owned for a long period.
I really hope to see someone defend the government bailing out some people who according to Darwin really shouldn't have bought in the first place.
Have a warm and fuzzy day!
skek said:I am worried that we are becoming a nation of whiners looking for a handout. This is a sad day.
skek said:I'm not looking for a handout. You don't seem to be looking for a handout. Oscar, awgee and others here don't seem to be looking for a handout. There's hope still.
WINEX said:skek said:I'm not looking for a handout. You don't seem to be looking for a handout. Oscar, awgee and others here don't seem to be looking for a handout. There's hope still.
You have no idea how hard it is at times like this for me to ignore genetics and heritage and just take over the world. Are you guys in if I start a new country?
WINEX said:skek said:I'm not looking for a handout. You don't seem to be looking for a handout. Oscar, awgee and others here don't seem to be looking for a handout. There's hope still.
You have no idea how hard it is at times like this for me to ignore genetics and heritage and just take over the world. Are you guys in if I start a new country?
awgee, you obviously don't appreciate the finer points of the Obama Doctrine. He is simply offering your children a chance to invest in their past, rather than having you invest in their future in these, the worst economic times since the Great Depression.awgee said:This plan is taking money from my children to pay for the financial mistakes of the present generation. Obama is an idiot. And anybody who supports this plan is a ____.
no_vaseline said:And at the end of the day, it's all whistling past the graveyard isn't it?
The hows and whys aren't important. What is important is it's a sad day to be an American.
WINEX said:no_vaseline said:And at the end of the day, it's all whistling past the graveyard isn't it?
The hows and whys aren't important. What is important is it's a sad day to be an American.
You are dead wrong.
If we ignore the "hows and whys", then there is no hope of fixing the problem.
bltserv said:WINEX said:no_vaseline said:And at the end of the day, it's all whistling past the graveyard isn't it?
The hows and whys aren't important. What is important is it's a sad day to be an American.
You are dead wrong.
If we ignore the "hows and whys", then there is no hope of fixing the problem.
Here is the HOW and WHY.