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I fear Obama won't go far enough in changing everything George W. Bush ever did. 
Nude said:If fossil fuels truly are depleting, rising costs to transport goods will negate the edge provided by lower labor costs.CapitalismWorks said:Thanks for the links. These are exactly the reasons free trade is again under debate. Conceptually, comparitive advantage is unassailable. In practice is doesn't appear to have much merit. The huge gulf between developed and developing market standards of living basically makes domestic employees totally uncompetitive in a great number of fields. However, given that we are competing globally, I can't see a way around it.
NancyBotwin said:CapitalismWorks said:about an Obama presidency?
Being taxed to the point where we have to cut jobs
Nude said:If fossil fuels truly are depleting, rising costs to transport goods will negate the edge provided by lower labor costs.CapitalismWorks said:Thanks for the links. These are exactly the reasons free trade is again under debate. Conceptually, comparitive advantage is unassailable. In practice is doesn't appear to have much merit. The huge gulf between developed and developing market standards of living basically makes domestic employees totally uncompetitive in a great number of fields. However, given that we are competing globally, I can't see a way around it.
My wife works for a rather large software company. The lack of qualified graduates has forced them into looking for talent from around the world and, when they find it, trying to secure them H1B visas so they can come work here. As those visas are being artificially restricted, her company has been forced to build and staff locations around the world while still paying them a salary that they would get in the US. The extra costs are not just infrastructure, but travel, lodging, and everything else that goes along with creating a workplace somewhere else. This company would ideally like to hire domestically, but if the pool of available talent doesn't meet their needs, their second choice would be to import those people. The very last thing they want to do is build company towns around the world just to stay competitive because it is incredibly inefficient when it comes to actually creating something that requires input and co-operation from so many individuals.EvaLSeraphim said:Nude said:If fossil fuels truly are depleting, rising costs to transport goods will negate the edge provided by lower labor costs.CapitalismWorks said:Thanks for the links. These are exactly the reasons free trade is again under debate. Conceptually, comparitive advantage is unassailable. In practice is doesn't appear to have much merit. The huge gulf between developed and developing market standards of living basically makes domestic employees totally uncompetitive in a great number of fields. However, given that we are competing globally, I can't see a way around it.
For hard goods manufacturing, I think that is true. Knowledge work (IT programming, help desk, etc.) can be done anywhere now with little extra costs.
Late to the party and turning into a freaking parrot.
EvaLSeraphim said:Others have chosen to create new things (stuff or processes). I think the answer is not to bemoan what was, but to ask "What's next?" I'm not saying it's easy, but I think it's one answer.
Nude said:My wife works for a rather large software company. The lack of qualified graduates has forced them into looking for talent from around the world and, when they find it, trying to secure them H1B visas so they can come work here. As those visas are being artificially restricted, her company has been forced to build and staff locations around the world while still paying them a salary that they would get in the US. The extra costs are not just infrastructure, but travel, lodging, and everything else that goes along with creating a workplace somewhere else. This company would ideally like to hire domestically, but if the pool of available talent doesn't meet their needs, their second choice would be to import those people. The very last thing they want to do is build company towns around the world just to stay competitive because it is incredibly inefficient when it comes to actually creating something that requires input and co-operation from so many individuals.EvaLSeraphim said:Nude said:If fossil fuels truly are depleting, rising costs to transport goods will negate the edge provided by lower labor costs.CapitalismWorks said:Thanks for the links. These are exactly the reasons free trade is again under debate. Conceptually, comparitive advantage is unassailable. In practice is doesn't appear to have much merit. The huge gulf between developed and developing market standards of living basically makes domestic employees totally uncompetitive in a great number of fields. However, given that we are competing globally, I can't see a way around it.
For hard goods manufacturing, I think that is true. Knowledge work (IT programming, help desk, etc.) can be done anywhere now with little extra costs.
Late to the party and turning into a freaking parrot.
Phone-based customer support is one thing, because a few weeks of training can supply you with plenty of workers. It's not the same for people who need specific college degrees to even get an interview.
Hah... than how did I know you were going to post that before you did?no_vaseline said:EvaLSeraphim said:Others have chosen to create new things (stuff or processes). I think the answer is not to bemoan what was, but to ask "What's next?" I'm not saying it's easy, but I think it's one answer.
Ultimately that's the only answer. You can't go back in time - only forward.