Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine

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I'm done with the discussion...we had it a number of times before.  People who are against park is strictly doing it because they don't want it to affect their property value and/or fear of the dead.  It's their belief and not debatable.  I mean, you buy into an area that is next to a toll road, on top of a former military base, with a landfill and jail nearby...those things are fine but a cemetery is the deathknell?  You should probably worry more about Broadcom possibly closing its doors in Irvine.

I live in Stonegate, which also shares some of the same issues, but I'm whatever about the cemetery.  I bought into the area and I know its warts.  Personally, I rather they get rid of that balloon. 




 
ps9 said:
don't know what strategy this town hall meeting you guys have brainstormed on... but you need to tread carefully.
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i dont think we have a strategy yet.  we are just going voice our opinion. 


ps9 said:
Any guidance from 5point general counsel?  How you present yourself will be important, read 5 point memo in the link i posted above to see how to word your stance against the cemetery.
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i dont think we communicate with 5point yet.  but i will suggest to our groups.
i can't find the link.  is ithttp://www.cityofirvine.org/civica/filebank/blobdload.asp?BlobID=25340

ps9 said:
Consider hiring a PR consult? 
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I dont think we hired a PR consult either.


ps9 said:
Do you have a spokesperson?  Or is it gonna be a bunch of hecklers at the meeting with the mayor?
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i dont think we dont have a spokesperson either.  i think we just going to voice our thoughts.

i use a lot of "i think" or "i dont think" because i am just a messenger.  :)

thanks for your suggestion.  i will communicate back our group about your suggestions.
 
Irvinecommuter said:
I'm done with the discussion...we had it a number of times before.  People who are against park is strictly doing it because they don't want it to affect their property value and/or fear of the dead.  It's their belief and not debatable.  I mean, you buy into an area that is next to a toll road, on top of a former military base, with a landfill and jail nearby...those things are fine but a cemetery is the deathknell?  You should probably worry more about Broadcom possibly closing its doors in Irvine.

I live in Stonegate, which also shares some of the same issues, but I'm whatever about the cemetery.  I bought into the area and I know its warts.  Personally, I rather they get rid of that balloon. 
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I feel the same way.  I also knew about all the various "issues" when I bought and had both eyes open when doing so.  I am pretty neutral on the cemetery so I could go either way on this.  That's why I support the folks in the neighborhood who are doing all the leg work in trying to get it moved.  Props to them for setting up the town hall meeting, for going door to door on a hot weekend day asking for signatures and raising awareness. 
 
Irvinecommuter calling it like it is. Most areas have something wrong with them, as long as it's out of sight it's out of mind most people are willing to deal with it. You can't see the TCE, you can't see the landfill or jail etc. everyone has a price. I'm sure it has to suck backing to culver/jamboree/Jeffrey/sand canyon, yet every single house backing to those streets seems to sell. A lot of you have higher standards but there is always someone trying to stretch and move up.
 
Irvinecommuter said:
People who are against park is strictly doing it because they don't want it to affect their property value and/or fear of the dead.  It's their belief and not debatable.
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I'm sorry that your mind is closed to the possibility that there are other reasons why residents don't want a cemetery in their backyard. But, to each his own.

Irvinecommuter said:
You should probably worry more about Broadcom possibly closing its doors in Irvine.
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One worry at a time. And, what can one possibly do about that? At least with this it's not too late to get the local politicians to reverse course.

Irvinecommuter said:
I bought into the area and I know its warts.  Personally, I rather they get rid of that balloon.
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That's one thing we can agree on. That balloon is an eye sore. But, there are the warts you know about, and warts that come out of no where. There's enough warts where we live already!
 
qwerty said:
Irvinecommuter calling it like it is. Most areas have something wrong with them, as long as it's out of sight it's out of mind most people are willing to deal with it. You can't see the TCE, you can't see the landfill or jail etc. everyone has a price. I'm sure it has to suck backing to culver/jamboree/Jeffrey/sand canyon, yet every single house backing to those streets seems to sell. A lot of you have higher standards but there is always someone trying to stretch and move up.
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I hope many of you will come and support the cause at the TH. It's only a couple of hours out of your life. This is only out of sight out of mind until the line at the cemetery for the endless burials jams traffic on Irvine Blvd or the first kid become sick from the chemicals. The only way for change to happen is if everyone take an active role making it happen.
 
eatthis said:
qwerty said:
Irvinecommuter calling it like it is. Most areas have something wrong with them, as long as it's out of sight it's out of mind most people are willing to deal with it. You can't see the TCE, you can't see the landfill or jail etc. everyone has a price. I'm sure it has to suck backing to culver/jamboree/Jeffrey/sand canyon, yet every single house backing to those streets seems to sell. A lot of you have higher standards but there is always someone trying to stretch and move up.
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I hope many of you will come and support the cause at the TH. It's only a couple of hours out of your life. This is only out of sight out of mind until the line at the cemetery for the endless burials jams traffic on Irvine Blvd or the first kid become sick from the chemicals. The only way for change to happen is if everyone take an active role making it happen.
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Which chemical are you talking about? Embalming chemicals or the superfund site toxins spread around GP?
 
eatthis said:
It's only a couple of hours out of your life.
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Choice 1 - Meeting for cemetery? Or sit on my ass and watch Rich Kids of Beverly hills.

Choice 2 - do some weights, eat dinner while enjoying Rich kids of beverly hills

Rich kids of beverly hills it is!!!!!!!!!!

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qwerty said:
eatthis said:
It's only a couple of hours out of your life.
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Choice 1 - Meeting for cemetery? Or sit on my ass and watch Rich Kids of Beverly hills.

Choice 2 - do some weights, eat dinner while enjoying Rich kids of beverly hills

Rich kids of beverly hills it is!!!!!!!!!!

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Wrong picture.  This is Talk Irvine.  You need to post Dorothy Wang, the FCB!
 
eatthis said:
endless burials jams traffic on Irvine Blvd
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Speaking of Irvine Blvd., I was in a car with a friend on Irvine Blvd. near Ridge Valley when we were passed by an OC Sheriff bus, you know, the big ones with the bars on the blacked out windows, that was presumably traveling from Musick to one of the courts, when my friend's kid asked her what the bus was.  My friend said "that's the sheriff's bus."  Her kid said, 'I want to ride in the sheriff's bus!"  My friend said "no you don't."
 
Happiness said:
my friend's kid asked her what the bus was.  My friend said "that's the sheriff's bus."  Her kid said, 'I want to ride in the sheriff's bus!"  My friend said "no you don't."
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see, it is the adults who poison the innocent minds of our youth.
 
You guys think the Cemetery is driving some folks to Greenwood? When I toured GW I noticed alot of asians. Just curious. And will it affect home prices in CV?
 
OC troll said:
You guys think the Cemetery is driving some folks to Greenwood? When I toured GW I noticed alot of asians. Just curious. And will it affect home prices in CV?
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I would say no to both questions. From this board it sounds like there are plenty of people, Asians in particular who will not accept a substitute to irvine. I don't think it will affect property values in CV, it's too far away.
 
I wonder if we can get one of the news agencies to cover this meeting.  We can have ABC news come out and interview home owners and veterans.
 
zubs said:
I wonder if we can get one of the news agencies to cover this meeting.  We can have ABC news come out and interview home owners and veterans.
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Personally, I think you don't want any publicity on this matter if you are anti-park. It will casts as a NIMBY v. Veterans issues.  Regardless of merit, NIMBY is going to lose the public opinion on this.
 
Shall I call ABC News and send them the flyer?  Maybe they're interested maybe they're not....
 
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