Trivia #26

bkshopr_IHB

bkshopr_IHB

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I have seen this for years but I don't know what to call it.



<img src="http://www.detailio.com/detailthumbs/SP-Her-E-Iron_Window_Grille.gif" alt="" />
 
[quote author="Cameray" date=1256371096]Is it a type of Oriel Window?</blockquote>


http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:JqmToT-jQKvLAM:http://knol.google.com/k/-/-/1ygv4rk6guzm4/1vse1w/annecy45.jpg<img src="" alt="" />



<img src="http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://ireland.iol.ie/~carigeen/orielw.jpg&usg=AFQjCNFlna00lxMhVAg86_yP3XPIawTcJQ" alt="" />



<img src="http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:6WjXS_GB7Fci5M:http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/51249462.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=444ED34A869CB9707D1A63F9C69C7D8F" alt="" />



<img src="http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:eH5z4pOHYz36JM:http://www.southwickhall.co.uk/images/piscina.jpg" alt="" />



Oriel window with hood mold, bracket and grille?



<a href="http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&um=1&q=oriel+window&sa=N&start=144&ndsp=18">http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&um=1&q=oriel+window&sa=N&start=144&ndsp=18</a>
 
It looks like a very rudimentary <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mashrabiya">moucharabieh or mashrabiya</a>. Oriel windows tend to be enclosed bay windows, rather than a grill with shutters.



Something along the lines of this:

<img src="http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1116807893458&id=1f88ff0e2862f741341bf2434ce95c13&url=http://www.routard.com/images_contenu/communaute/photos/publi/066/pt65712.jpg" alt="" />



BK, is this a Floral Park house? And if so... a neo-Mediterranean bungalow design?
 
A Juliette balcony - ya know, ette cuz it is samller than a Juliet

or

howz about a "Juliet with a father who knows what is goin' on"?
 
We have quite a number of scholars here. Both Cameray and Nude are very close. The Oriel window is quite close and I thought about it too. The Oriel came from the Tudor period in England. The projection I believed has to be enclosed with windows and with splayed sides. This is the closest term I came across too.



Nude's research terms I have not heard off at all and it is by far the closest to the architectural gentry of this element. The moorish projection does not seem to be enclosed by windows in a weather tight condition but with shutters allowing ventilation to this outdoor sleeping porch. What happen if there is no sleeping porch and just a window and the element is used purely for elevation decorative purposes only?
 
[quote author="Nude" date=1256393837]It looks like a very rudimentary <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mashrabiya">moucharabieh or mashrabiya</a>. Oriel windows tend to be enclosed bay windows, rather than a grill with shutters.



Something along the lines of this:

<img src="http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1116807893458&id=1f88ff0e2862f741341bf2434ce95c13&url=http://www.routard.com/images_contenu/communaute/photos/publi/066/pt65712.jpg" alt="" />



BK, is this a Floral Park house? And if so... a neo-Mediterranean bungalow design?</blockquote>


The picture came from the Courtyard apartment off Sunset and Havenhurst in Hollywood.
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1256433268][quote author="Nude" date=1256393837]It looks like a very rudimentary <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mashrabiya">moucharabieh or mashrabiya</a>. Oriel windows tend to be enclosed bay windows, rather than a grill with shutters.



Something along the lines of this:

<img src="http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1116807893458&id=1f88ff0e2862f741341bf2434ce95c13&url=http://www.routard.com/images_contenu/communaute/photos/publi/066/pt65712.jpg" alt="" />



BK, is this a Floral Park house? And if so... a neo-Mediterranean bungalow design?</blockquote>


The picture came from the Courtyard apartment off Sunset and Havenhurst in Hollywood.</blockquote>


I tried to get the specific name of the architectural style but I think it's just too recent (last 100 years) a design to get it's own historical write up on the interwebs. Looking at pictures of old Greek, Italian, and Spanish houses, it's a pretty common design in the Mediterranean area. I'm positive it's original influence was Arabic but the centuries have mutated it into what you see in Hollywood, probably a nod to the Spanish Colonial Revival style that was popular in 20's/30's L.A.
 
You are right about its application in SoCal during the 20's and 30's. Its origin came from the moorish architecture and mutated to the current simplicity in SoCal. I doubt during the 20's there were artisans who could carve the intricate joinery of its predecessor. This is a lost art for the present day.
 
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