hyen10_IHB
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Who knows when the Great Park will be finished (if it ever gets moving)? And any word on the Lennar communities surrounding it? Lambert Ranch? Stonegate?
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freedomCM_IHB
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when does the read only button come out?
usctrojanman29_IHB
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[quote author="hyen10" date=1242452714]Who knows when the Great Park will be finished (if it ever gets moving)? And any word on the Lennar communities surrounding it? Lambert Ranch? Stonegate?</blockquote>
Lennar will go BK before they start pushing dirt at the Great Park.
Lennar will go BK before they start pushing dirt at the Great Park.
tkaratz_IHB
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[quote author="hyen10" date=1242452714]Who knows when the Great Park will be finished (if it ever gets moving)? And any word on the Lennar communities surrounding it? Lambert Ranch? Stonegate?</blockquote>
I happen to know when the Great Park will be finished. Lennar's starting construction this coming monday, and they'll start selling homes three days after tomorrow so they'll be done by early 2011 so if you can buy a home nearby you should do so as soon as possible because the influx of 10,000 units is going to drive prices up in neighboring properties.
My advice, drive down to aliso viejo with a cashier's check and ask to speak to mr. haddad and that you are interested in buying a home from him.
I happen to know when the Great Park will be finished. Lennar's starting construction this coming monday, and they'll start selling homes three days after tomorrow so they'll be done by early 2011 so if you can buy a home nearby you should do so as soon as possible because the influx of 10,000 units is going to drive prices up in neighboring properties.
My advice, drive down to aliso viejo with a cashier's check and ask to speak to mr. haddad and that you are interested in buying a home from him.
IrvineRenter_IHB
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I think the Great Park should consider what they are doing in China:
<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30757503/">Adult theme park gets China talking about sex</a>
<a href="http://perezhilton.com/2009-05-15-sex-park-to-open-in-china">Sex Park To Open In China</a>
<img src="http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/gettyimages_872423742.jpg" alt="" />
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520290,00.html">Leave the Kids at Home: New Theme Park Is 'Sexually Explicit'</a>
<img src="http://www.foxnews.com/images/532480/1_61_sex_theme_park_320.jpg" alt="" />
The focus of the Irvine Companies new efforts is to cater to Asian buyers. Apparently, they want sex.
<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30757503/">Adult theme park gets China talking about sex</a>
<a href="http://perezhilton.com/2009-05-15-sex-park-to-open-in-china">Sex Park To Open In China</a>
<img src="http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/gettyimages_872423742.jpg" alt="" />
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520290,00.html">Leave the Kids at Home: New Theme Park Is 'Sexually Explicit'</a>
<img src="http://www.foxnews.com/images/532480/1_61_sex_theme_park_320.jpg" alt="" />
The focus of the Irvine Companies new efforts is to cater to Asian buyers. Apparently, they want sex.
Sunshine_IHB
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[quote author="IrvineRenter" date=1242470626]I think the Great Park should consider what they are doing in China:
<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30757503/">Adult theme park gets China talking about sex</a>
<a href="http://perezhilton.com/2009-05-15-sex-park-to-open-in-china">Sex Park To Open In China</a>
<img src="http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/gettyimages_872423742.jpg" alt="" />
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520290,00.html">Leave the Kids at Home: New Theme Park Is 'Sexually Explicit'</a>
<img src="http://www.foxnews.com/images/532480/1_61_sex_theme_park_320.jpg" alt="" />
The focus of the Irvine Companies new efforts is to cater to Asian buyers. Apparently, they want sex.</blockquote>
So IR's a Perez reader, eh?
<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30757503/">Adult theme park gets China talking about sex</a>
<a href="http://perezhilton.com/2009-05-15-sex-park-to-open-in-china">Sex Park To Open In China</a>
<img src="http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/gettyimages_872423742.jpg" alt="" />
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520290,00.html">Leave the Kids at Home: New Theme Park Is 'Sexually Explicit'</a>
<img src="http://www.foxnews.com/images/532480/1_61_sex_theme_park_320.jpg" alt="" />
The focus of the Irvine Companies new efforts is to cater to Asian buyers. Apparently, they want sex.</blockquote>
So IR's a Perez reader, eh?
OCCOBRA_IHB
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[quote author="hyen10" date=1242452714]Who knows when the Great Park will be finished (if it ever gets moving)? And any word on the Lennar communities surrounding it? Lambert Ranch? Stonegate?</blockquote>
They where going to do the commercial parts first but i was hearing there is a 20%vacancy rate around John Wayne airport and commercial RE is the next shoe to drop. My guess is Lennar will go BK here in the next year or so. I can't believe all the money they have wasted and are still wasting to this day designing this great Park. Expect to see an ever fading orange Balloon and silence for the next 4 years at the the Great Farce...
They where going to do the commercial parts first but i was hearing there is a 20%vacancy rate around John Wayne airport and commercial RE is the next shoe to drop. My guess is Lennar will go BK here in the next year or so. I can't believe all the money they have wasted and are still wasting to this day designing this great Park. Expect to see an ever fading orange Balloon and silence for the next 4 years at the the Great Farce...
IrvineRenter_IHB
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I knew it was too good to be true:
<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30804722/">No sex park please, we're Chinese!</a>
'Love Land,' which was to feature explicit images, has been demolished
.
BEIJING - This investment turned out to be as risky as it was risque.
A sex theme park that featured explicit exhibits of genitalia and sexual culture is being demolished before it can even open, a government spokesman in southwestern China said Monday.
The park, christened "Love Land" by its owners, went under the wrecking ball over the weekend in the city of Chongqing, said the spokesman, who like many Chinese bureaucrats would give only his surname, Yang.
Story continues below ?advertisement | your ad here
Yang refused to give the reason for the demolition or other details. However, photographs of the adult-only park had circulated widely on the Internet over the weekend, prompting widespread mockery and condemnation.
Exhibits had included giant-sized reproductions of male and female anatomy, dissertations on how the topic of sex is treated in various cultures and what the official China Daily newspaper called "sex technique workshops."
The park's main investor, Lu Xiaoqing, had earlier claimed that the attractions sought only to boost sexual awareness and improve people's sex-lives.
Conflicted views
The demolition highlights conflicted views on sex in modern China, where a prudish attitude toward discussion of sexuality is paired with an almost clinical approach to its physical aspects.
While pornography is banned and sex education largely unheard of, shops selling sex toys and related items stand out prominently in many neighborhoods and sex outside marriage is widely tolerated. Prostitution, while technically illegal, is widespread and the keeping of mistresses among prominent businessmen and Communist Party officials is considered commonplace.
Such attitudes are blamed in part for risky sex and ignorance about birth control among minors. With public discussion of sex so limited, there is relatively little awareness of sexual harassment and abuse and laws and regulations covering such matters are weaker in China than in many countries.
Newspapers last week carried prominent reports on a government official who was let off with a fine simply because he claimed he had not known that the 13-year-old girl he paid to have sex with was underage.
The man, Lu Yumin, a local tax bureau official in Sichuan province's Yibin county, was arrested on charges of child rape, but was convicted only of visiting a prostitute and fined 5,000 yuan ($730).
<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30804722/">No sex park please, we're Chinese!</a>
'Love Land,' which was to feature explicit images, has been demolished
.
BEIJING - This investment turned out to be as risky as it was risque.
A sex theme park that featured explicit exhibits of genitalia and sexual culture is being demolished before it can even open, a government spokesman in southwestern China said Monday.
The park, christened "Love Land" by its owners, went under the wrecking ball over the weekend in the city of Chongqing, said the spokesman, who like many Chinese bureaucrats would give only his surname, Yang.
Story continues below ?advertisement | your ad here
Yang refused to give the reason for the demolition or other details. However, photographs of the adult-only park had circulated widely on the Internet over the weekend, prompting widespread mockery and condemnation.
Exhibits had included giant-sized reproductions of male and female anatomy, dissertations on how the topic of sex is treated in various cultures and what the official China Daily newspaper called "sex technique workshops."
The park's main investor, Lu Xiaoqing, had earlier claimed that the attractions sought only to boost sexual awareness and improve people's sex-lives.
Conflicted views
The demolition highlights conflicted views on sex in modern China, where a prudish attitude toward discussion of sexuality is paired with an almost clinical approach to its physical aspects.
While pornography is banned and sex education largely unheard of, shops selling sex toys and related items stand out prominently in many neighborhoods and sex outside marriage is widely tolerated. Prostitution, while technically illegal, is widespread and the keeping of mistresses among prominent businessmen and Communist Party officials is considered commonplace.
Such attitudes are blamed in part for risky sex and ignorance about birth control among minors. With public discussion of sex so limited, there is relatively little awareness of sexual harassment and abuse and laws and regulations covering such matters are weaker in China than in many countries.
Newspapers last week carried prominent reports on a government official who was let off with a fine simply because he claimed he had not known that the 13-year-old girl he paid to have sex with was underage.
The man, Lu Yumin, a local tax bureau official in Sichuan province's Yibin county, was arrested on charges of child rape, but was convicted only of visiting a prostitute and fined 5,000 yuan ($730).
wendyinoc_IHB
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They should ditch the park and make it an airport.
hyen10_IHB
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Only problem is then all those communities going up around it would be in a bad location.. not to mention a noisy one..
bkshopr_IHB
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[quote author="IrvineRenter" date=1242690194]I knew it was too good to be true:
<a href="http://www.msn.msn.com/id/30804722/">No sex park please, we're Chinese!</a>
'Love Land,' which was to feature explicit images, has been demolished
.
BEIJING - This investment turned out to be as risky as it was risque.
A sex theme park that featured explicit exhibits of genitalia and sexual culture is being demolished before it can even open, a government spokesman in southwestern China said Monday.
The park, christened "Love Land" by its owners, went under the wrecking ball over the weekend in the city of Chongqing, said the spokesman, who like many Chinese bureaucrats would give only his surname, Yang.
Story continues below ?advertisement | your ad here
Yang refused to give the reason for the demolition or other details. However, photographs of the adult-only park had circulated widely on the Internet over the weekend, prompting widespread mockery and condemnation.
Exhibits had included giant-sized reproductions of male and female anatomy, dissertations on how the topic of sex is treated in various cultures and what the official China Daily newspaper called "sex technique workshops."
The park's main investor, Lu Xiaoqing, had earlier claimed that the attractions sought only to boost sexual awareness and improve people's sex-lives.
Conflicted views
The demolition highlights conflicted views on sex in modern China, where a prudish attitude toward discussion of sexuality is paired with an almost clinical approach to its physical aspects.
While pornography is banned and sex education largely unheard of, shops selling sex toys and related items stand out prominently in many neighborhoods and sex outside marriage is widely tolerated. Prostitution, while technically illegal, is widespread and the keeping of mistresses among prominent businessmen and Communist Party officials is considered commonplace.
Such attitudes are blamed in part for risky sex and ignorance about birth control among minors. With public discussion of sex so limited, there is relatively little awareness of sexual harassment and abuse and laws and regulations covering such matters are weaker in China than in many countries.
Newspapers last week carried prominent reports on a government official who was let off with a fine simply because he claimed he had not known that the 13-year-old girl he paid to have sex with was underage.
The man, Lu Yumin, a local tax bureau official in Sichuan province's Yibin county, was arrested on charges of child rape, but was convicted only of visiting a prostitute and fined 5,000 yuan ($730).</blockquote>
Later, the 13 year old girl hung herself. Case closed.
<a href="http://www.msn.msn.com/id/30804722/">No sex park please, we're Chinese!</a>
'Love Land,' which was to feature explicit images, has been demolished
.
BEIJING - This investment turned out to be as risky as it was risque.
A sex theme park that featured explicit exhibits of genitalia and sexual culture is being demolished before it can even open, a government spokesman in southwestern China said Monday.
The park, christened "Love Land" by its owners, went under the wrecking ball over the weekend in the city of Chongqing, said the spokesman, who like many Chinese bureaucrats would give only his surname, Yang.
Story continues below ?advertisement | your ad here
Yang refused to give the reason for the demolition or other details. However, photographs of the adult-only park had circulated widely on the Internet over the weekend, prompting widespread mockery and condemnation.
Exhibits had included giant-sized reproductions of male and female anatomy, dissertations on how the topic of sex is treated in various cultures and what the official China Daily newspaper called "sex technique workshops."
The park's main investor, Lu Xiaoqing, had earlier claimed that the attractions sought only to boost sexual awareness and improve people's sex-lives.
Conflicted views
The demolition highlights conflicted views on sex in modern China, where a prudish attitude toward discussion of sexuality is paired with an almost clinical approach to its physical aspects.
While pornography is banned and sex education largely unheard of, shops selling sex toys and related items stand out prominently in many neighborhoods and sex outside marriage is widely tolerated. Prostitution, while technically illegal, is widespread and the keeping of mistresses among prominent businessmen and Communist Party officials is considered commonplace.
Such attitudes are blamed in part for risky sex and ignorance about birth control among minors. With public discussion of sex so limited, there is relatively little awareness of sexual harassment and abuse and laws and regulations covering such matters are weaker in China than in many countries.
Newspapers last week carried prominent reports on a government official who was let off with a fine simply because he claimed he had not known that the 13-year-old girl he paid to have sex with was underage.
The man, Lu Yumin, a local tax bureau official in Sichuan province's Yibin county, was arrested on charges of child rape, but was convicted only of visiting a prostitute and fined 5,000 yuan ($730).</blockquote>
Later, the 13 year old girl hung herself. Case closed.
bltserv_IHB
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[quote author="wendyinoc" date=1243588113]They should ditch the park and make it an airport.</blockquote>
It would have been a great regional airport.
Our house in Aliso was under the "Landing Pattern" before the closure.
It was a heck of a lot louder with Military Jets using afterburners than a regular airport
would have been. Would have been great for business and county revenues.
But the NIMBY`s won the vote so all we have is a big empty stain that resembles a bombed
out airbase. In a word. Its FUGLY. And Lennar is nothing but another Ponzi Scheme that is
on its way to oblivion.
It would have been a great regional airport.
Our house in Aliso was under the "Landing Pattern" before the closure.
It was a heck of a lot louder with Military Jets using afterburners than a regular airport
would have been. Would have been great for business and county revenues.
But the NIMBY`s won the vote so all we have is a big empty stain that resembles a bombed
out airbase. In a word. Its FUGLY. And Lennar is nothing but another Ponzi Scheme that is
on its way to oblivion.
usctrojanman29_IHB
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[quote author="bltserv" date=1243642554][quote author="wendyinoc" date=1243588113]They should ditch the park and make it an airport.</blockquote>
It would have been a great regional airport.
Our house in Aliso was under the "Landing Pattern" before the closure.
It was a heck of a lot louder with Military Jets using afterburners than a regular airport
would have been. Would have been great for business and county revenues.
But the NIMBY`s won the vote so all we have is a big empty stain that resembles a bombed
out airbase. In a word. Its FUGLY. And Lennar is nothing but another Ponzi Scheme that is
on its way to oblivion.</blockquote>
I wonder if, after Lennar goes bye-bye, they can have another vote to see if they want to put the airport back in?
It would have been a great regional airport.
Our house in Aliso was under the "Landing Pattern" before the closure.
It was a heck of a lot louder with Military Jets using afterburners than a regular airport
would have been. Would have been great for business and county revenues.
But the NIMBY`s won the vote so all we have is a big empty stain that resembles a bombed
out airbase. In a word. Its FUGLY. And Lennar is nothing but another Ponzi Scheme that is
on its way to oblivion.</blockquote>
I wonder if, after Lennar goes bye-bye, they can have another vote to see if they want to put the airport back in?
hyen10_IHB
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That's interesting, but I doubt they'd consider the idea of an airport again because of the previous decision to build a park. who knows? anythings possible.
tkaratz_IHB
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yeah, anythings possible .....except if you knew your great park history....a airport had been approved by the public, twice.
xoneinax_IHB
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[quote author="bltserv" date=1243588113]But the NIMBY`s won the vote so all we have is a big empty stain that resembles a bombed out airbase</blockquote>Why are people not raising heck at Irvine city council meetings ? How long does Irvine plan to keep this location as an eyesore ?
jmatthew_IHB
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Most of the organizations that opposed the airport didn't care whether a park was ever built. They just didn't want an airport. The Great Park was a white(green?)wash to get the public on board with them.
usctrojanman29_IHB
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[quote author="jmatthew" date=1244707950]Most of the organizations that opposed the airport didn't care whether a park was ever built. They just didn't want an airport. The Great Park was a white(green?)wash to get the public on board with them.</blockquote>
Yup, the folks that didn't want the airport got the sheeple to back them up with the idea of a "GREAT" park. How about a GREAT disaster? haha
Yup, the folks that didn't want the airport got the sheeple to back them up with the idea of a "GREAT" park. How about a GREAT disaster? haha