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<p>Since ISM gave her stamp of approval, I will no longer refrain from joining the hijacking.</p>

<p>At first, I thought Murdoch's wife (see above) was pretty attractive. But then I look up her pics elsewhere and boy could he do better lookswise. (she did get a MBA from Yale though.) </p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendy_Deng">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendy_Deng</a> (interestingly enough, her Chinese given name is prounced Wen-Di)</p>

<p>Exhibit A:</p>

<p><img alt="" src="http://media.apn.co.nz/webcontent/image/jpg/15-Murdoch-and-Deng.jpg" /></p>

<p>Exhibit B:</p>

<p><a href="http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2645924.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6D21D22E39C7C280F9930FDCFC4C15FBB"></a></p>

<p> <img alt="" src="http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1320000/images/_1323455_murdoch_deng150.jpg" /></p>
 
<p>She looks hot in the first picture posted by green cactus. Hard to believe that's the same woman in those other two pictures, what a difference. Looks like he's trying to turn back the clock as well, nice dye job on the hair. Way to go Rupert</p>
 
Amen, I was thinking the same thing. That transformation qualifies as an extreme makeover. Unless her hair and make-up artist is Picasso, I'm going with theory she had work done.
 
<p>Through the power of the internet, I think I have found the answer: You can make up your own mind</p>

<p>Mrs. Murdoch: Circa 2001</p>

<p><img alt="" src="http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2001-05/11/info_image_import_771.gif" /></p>

<p><img alt="" src="http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1235000/images/_1238870_murdoch300.jpg" /></p>

<p>Mrs. Murdoch: Circa 2007</p>

<p><img alt="" src="http://nymag.com/daily/intel/20070626murdoch.jpg" /></p>

<p><img alt="" src="http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0azn6GKfAw9CY/340x.jpg" /></p>

<p> Either a surgeon (or 50) were involved or Mrs. Murdoch found the fountain of youth.</p>
 
<p>IC, thanks for linking the wikipedia story, I found it very interesting. Looks our girl Wendy here stirred up quite a bit of drama before finally landing, I mean ending up with Rupert. </p>
 
Sadly, I met a Wendy type a few weeks back while at Banderas in CDM.She was late 20’s maybe early 30’s, asian, very attractive. No ring. Her LV bag, Prada shoes and Chanel sunglasses, worn on her head, made me think twice at first but I decided to test the water. Unfortunately, her date (they were meeting there) showed up before I had a chance to get her#. This guy not only looked old, but he screamed boring.

<p class="MsoNormal">Of course, instead of paying her any attention, he was constantly on his blackberry. For a minute, it felt like a lost another one to Ditech moment. C'est la vie!</p>
 
Maybe I am too "idealistic" but I just could never see myself pursuing that lifestyle. I flew to Vegas last Wednesday and observed a group of "cougars" They showed up in a limo; typical 40 something single white females with sunburnt skin and bleached blonde hair. They spent the entire flight talking about the guys they hooked up with... Honestly I would rather be with someone who appreciated me for the qualities I have rather than being with a substantially more attractive girl who only appreciated the financial aspects of a relationship. I think as a guy it's a life stage thing...eventually you want to settle down and have a family. For girls you're not going to change a guy to want that. Many guys never really grow up and see girls as possessions which I'm feeling on this thread. The girl who is really devoted to you and not the things you provide is the keeper in my opinion.
 
Fine ... back to cougars ... let the pictures reflect that.





<img src="http://www.sawf.org/Newsphotos/Hollywood/AshtonKutcherDemiMoore19Sep2007PR.jpg" alt="" />





bishie, even your "idealistic" view where you want a girl to be <strong>devoted</strong> to you might be taken as offensive by some. To each his/her own. Let the cougars feast - it just won't be on you I guess.
 
<p>Interesting viewpoint, you bring up some very valid points. I totally agree about finding a keeper. The problem in finding a keeper is that it's not as easy as it sounds, at least for some of us. The process is not a linear one. There's a lot that happens between point A and arriving to destination point B. That's what this thread is about in my opinion. It has nothing to do about possesing or being possessed. This is all about social dynamics, the experience and opinions of a diverse group of people. </p>

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<p>Bishie, </p>

<p> No its not idealistic, it is this place. Welcome to California.... I see WAY too many women obsessed with pursuing the So Cal lifestyle. To me it is just SAD that 40soemthing are trying to compete with the 20somethings in looks. There are just WAY too many men that would absolutely worship them. Unfortunately, most women don't want that and for that fact, most people don't really know what they want. In reality a large majority of people don't want what they need, they want "something better", which is too bad, because they could be missing out on the opportunity of a lifetime. Like that one person said, make it a point to talk to everybody in the room, not only the good looking people.</p>

<p>-bix</p>
 
<p>What about the women in the OC, that measure a man according to the size of his wallet, how is that fair? How am I going to compete with an older guy who's financially more successful, even though he's a total loser.</p>

<p>It's like the person with solid financials, 20% down, high FICO, etc competing to buy the same house against the dude that went stated and got the liar loan and doesn't mind overpaying more than you. </p>
 
<p>graphix:</p>

<p>Here is more comments to the $500K/yr wanna be wife posting on Craigslist.org.. .Won't be surprised if one of the news show pick this up with interviews of the real posters.</p>

<p>What am I doing wrong? ...


Okay, I'm tired of beating around the bush. I'm a beautiful


(spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. .. I'm looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year.</p>

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THE ANSWER


Dear Pers-431649184:


....</p>

<p>Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a


cr@ppy business deal. Here's why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you


suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring


my money. Fine, simple. But here's the rub, your looks will fade and my


money will likely continue into perpetuity...in fact, it is very likely


that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won't


be getting any more beautiful!





...


My answer:





Dear Pers-431649184:





Your also came across your posting with great interest. I am a 28 year old Wall Street trader ... In fact, I make over a million and can usher a woman into a comfortable, true middle class lifestyle ...





I am sympathetic to your goal in finding a rich man to marry. The milk needs to be sold by the expiration date. But since this is premium milk, why would you settle for less than premium prices? I would like to address some of the questions that were previously missed by the other gentleman and provide constructive advice on where to find your match.





I also do believe in the efficient market theory, and am surprised that $500k hasn't found you yet. There are plenty of rich lawyers, investment bankers and hedgies to go around in this city. What gives? I think the problem might be that you have not been sufficiently focused in your search efforts.





The culprit, I believe, may be that you are also looking for qualities aside from money - such as looks, personality, and a sense of humor. However, men who have those qualities learn at an early age that they do not need money to attract quality women. As the saying goes, if you can get the milk for free, why pay up for the cow?





What you need to look for is someone who is long money, and short the other aspects. They are not easy to spot, since you are biologically wired to overlook and ignore them. However, the next time that you are at a expensive black tie event, and you are introduced to the short, bald, overweight man who fidgets nervously whilst making conversation with you, pay special attention to him.





Here's an inspirational story for you. An acquaintance of mine who was also an classy and articulate woman as yourself was able to land that guy - who also happens to be one of the top ten guys at Google. This is the type of stuff that gold-digging moms read to their gold-digging daughters at bedtime. Perhaps you need to make a location change to Silicon Valley - miracles like these happen almost everyday in a land where you can randomly throw a rock and hit a rich nerd in squarely his Kim-jong Il glasses.





And as far as his deficiencies go, they turned out to be not so bad. With hundreds of millions in the bank, she's been able to clean him up and give him a little sophistication. Think of it as a fixer-upper project with a massive budget (and yourself as a real estate developer!). Although, I must warn you, it is a fine line you are flirting with - you must not overdo it lest he begins to attract younger women who are hotter than yourself. The trick is, you need build him up enough to be presentable, while simultaneously manipulate him into believing you are the best that he will ever do! That and having kids will be your insurance against your depreciation (or as I prefer to use the term, going sour).





I wish the best of luck on your sales project. As for me, I am also available for a short-term lease. However, for marriage I wouldn't consider a women unless she can bring beauty, brains and self-motivation to the table. I do not want to dilute my gene pool and end up raising a bunch of Paris Hiltons.





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Dear Pers-431649184, fellow mid-20's female,





Let me begin by saying that my dating situation is much like yours - rife with frustration over guys that aren't worth a long term commitment or who don't want a long term commitment. In fact many of my friends who read your posting were convinced that I had written it. I feel your pain. I will add some more color to elucidate exactly the type of female that I am: I went to an Ivy League school, work at a top tier investment bank, and I am generally considered a very good looking girl. In other words, I won't dilute the gene pool or "raise a bunch of Paris Hiltons". I have brains and oodles of self-motivation. I go on about 3 dates a week with guys like the ones who posted above, and even guys that make more money, and I am friends with a bevy of these beasts through Ivy League and investment banking connections. However, none of these fine young gentlemen have proposed yet. I believe it is because they spend so much of their time making money, that they have very little time to be in an actual relationship and so they settle for dating cheap, trashy girls that they pick up over bottle service at bottom-of-the-barrel night clubs like PM and Marquee. It is only these cheap girls that can truely be bought with money.


The first specimen to respond to your post is actually a first year analyst at Deutsche Bank. ....So, he only makes about $150,000/year.... But I dont think I need to tell you any of this since you have already eliminated this filthy class of guys. Bachelor #1, by kicking you when you were already down, also highlighted an important point: most men are assholes, making it virtually impossible to find one that is even worth marrying, much less one that will marry.


Bachelor #2 sounded promising and his post was much more respectful of your plight. The moral: men need to mature past the frat-boy stage before they are acceptable to date.


However, what I think most men fail to understand is that your preference for "$500 K" is not about the money and it is not a matter of materialism. Rather, this blanket statement provides an umbrella under which many other qualities seem to fall: premium educational background, high level of motivation, a family who raised the man well (and therefore good genes and similar breeding), and a socio economic background that reflects your own. I know how difficult it can be to date a guy who wrinkles his nose when he sees your oriental carpets, crystal chandeliers, and diamond heirloom ring. Having a similar background is vital to the success of any relationship. Let me reiterate: I make my own money and come from money and have no intention of marrying for money. Wanting a well-bred guy who has high motivation and a great education is not a crime.


With all of that said, I hope I have made it clear to everyone keeping up with these postings that females all over Manhattan are experiencing the same thing day in and day out and some of them aren't money grubbing sorostitutes. Well-bred gorgeous women who make their own money are finding it impossible to locate men who are of the same caliber. Its about time someone brought attention to the matter. Why is New York filled with guys who are A) career-obsessed, B) frat-loving, C) immigrants, or D) greasy B&T.


Where are the high-brow, ballroom-dancing, tuxedo-wearing Ivy League men who don't fall into any of these 4 categories and who aren't disrespectful slime balls? I have yet to solve this Manhattan mystery.





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My response:





Dear pers-440043436, from a 27-year old male,





I think a big part of this "Manhattan mystery" is utterly unrealistic and narcissistic expectations and behavior of some people in Manhattan.





You want a guy who makes 500+, but without accepting that he will probably be working a lot and you will barely see him. The "high-brow, ballroom-dancing, tuxedo-wearing Ivy League men" are probably trust-fund babies and the years of laziness turns them into unmotivated playboys. You want the upside, without the downside.





I am 27. I am highly educated, with 3 graduate degrees. I was admitted to your Ivy League school, but went to a good non-Ivy that offered a full-ride and nicer people. I am not making 500K and probably never will. Not that I am not motivated, it is just that I am not motivated by money and don’t want to be surrounded by unpleasant people. I want to have a life outside of work. I make enough money to be in the upper 2% of income earners and that's more than enough for me to focus on more important things. I also want to be in a committed relationship and get married to a girl who shares my ideas. Unfortunately, in Manhattan I keep meeting either stupid cheap girls who want a sugar daddy or girls who are unpleasant, self-absorbed, judgmental and bitchy.





You listed your assets as “went to an Ivy League school, work at a top tier investment bank, and I am generally considered a very good looking girl.” You didn’t mention other things, like integrity, sense of humor, adaptability, loyalty – qualities that are much more important in a long-term relationship than your school’s and employer’s name. Maybe you should rethink your marketing strategy.








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Good looks fade for both genders over time, not just for women. Same for money as it comes as easy as it goes. A solid relationship is built upon a strong foundation such as trust, love, loyalty, good sense of humor, kindness, lightness,integrity, and many other goodies. I married a good looking dude who is no longer fit it same catagory; however, he is as good looking as ever in my eyes.
 
Regarding the earlier CL posts, I'll comment that there are more women college graduates than men now, and this trend is expected to continue. Historically women married up the socio-economic ladder, or at least comparable. What we might see in the future is many more frustrated women (in white collar positions) who cannot find men in equal or better socio-economic status, or perhaps the traditional model will be flipped upside down as poor-er men become more metro in attempt to attract wealthier women. Might be worthwhile to invest in businesses like that Metro for Men salon.





<rant, feel free to skip>





Speaking as an immigrant, I find it strange that people here live in one of the safest places in the world, yet behave in most anti-social way, almost as if they live in fear of each other. It's very difficult for you to just walk up to people in the street, mall, on a bus, etc. and just meet and chat with them normally without weird expectation that you're either some weirdo/mass-murder/psychopath, or planning to put the moves on. And if you're actually trying to meet the opposite sex, outside school the "acceptable" places to meet are generally limited to social events where people attend in the safety of their cliques. If you go to a club stag people think you're a loser. I went to eat at Ruby's the other night by myself and the waitress asked if I was waiting for someone, I told her no and she had a puzzled look and asked why I didn't invite someone out to eat. As I look around the restaurant, it became apparent that I'm the only "solo" person. Geez, do I have to take a date with me just to get a mushroom burger and fries to be "normal" ?





In some ways we behave like ancient tribesmen who build walls around their villages (walled HOA's) and traveled in groups armed with spears (cliques w/cel phones). If you try to explain this to people they get offended and start blabbering about how we're the greatest on earth and if you don't like it, get out. People here are very sensitive to critique and automatically assume your general comments/observations to be directed at them personally and take it as an insult. It's very self centered.





I think America is probably one of very few places where people pay hundreds or even thousands of dollars to attend seminars on how to meet and date the opposite sex. And if you actually read those seduction/NLP dating material, it's all about being someone who you're not. Isn't "hyponotic neuro-linguistic seduction programming" being dishonest? Sorry, but I'd rather be myself than to degrade my ethics. When I die and my good deeds are measured against the bad, I'd prefer the scale to not tip in the other direction.





If you're single and ever asked yourself, why you have to dress up (peacock) like a walking conversation piece, go to a club where they blast music you don't like with a group (clique) and attempt to meet the opposite sex under weird flashing lights that make you dizzy, you'd understand where I'm coming from. And if you did it in K-Town, your bill came in 3 digits. If you did it in Vegas with a private booth/couch area, it can go to 4-digits even at dingy places like the Tangerine in Treasure Island, where hordes of people stand like sardines by the bar with no room to dance, and heaven forbid if you actually try to talk to anyone, you'd have to shout into their ear over the loud music. WTF?





My idea of a date is something like a picnic basket in a pretty park with green grass, colorful flowers, and shady trees. I'd spend a few hours pouring over my cookbook and prep a light meal, desert, and juice. What I get here is, despite having told my date that we're going for a walk in the park, she shows up in high heels, complains about the sun and getting her expensive jacket dirty, then the park ranger barges in to accuse me of having an open bottle of alcohol (bottle says apple cider @#%@%).
 
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