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Some very sad news. I just found out last night, that one of my co-workers committed suicide. Now, the problems were varied....but found out that he was trying to hang on to his 900K house on a 120K salary. I think the last 2 weeks of market drop pushed him over the edge.

We used to talk investing all the time....he seemed to be really squared away. I hadn't seen him in awhile, so I don't know all that has gone on in his life.... but I will tell you that this is the second LAPD suicide in 3 weeks. From what I've learned, both had a great deal to do with finances....and the feeling of hopelessness.

This is what I want to say: If any of you readers are feeling stressed about your predicament, reach out to someone. Please recognize that you, and half of the world's poplulation, are all experiencing the same thing. You are not a failure, you will persevere and be a stronger and more educated person for the experience.

As the saying goes, Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

We'll all get through this together.

R.I.P. Rich and Ernie.
 
Yes, things will change.

Whenever I'm feeling down, I always hear my grandmother's voice saying "this shall pass."

And it always does.

Gread advice, Troop.

I'm sorry to hear of that story, and I feel for the family.
 
Trooper

Sorry to hear that. It does put a lot of things into perspective. Life is precious while the rest of the stuff is really unimportant and replaceable.

Looking down from my mountain top.

Regards
 
Trooper, I'm sorry to hear about your coworkers. Unfortunately, this seems to be happening more and more. I know there are certain professions that seem to have more suicides than others and that's it harder for these people to reach out when they need help the most.

I know of someone who attempted suicide a few weeks ago. My brother the shrink tells me that they are seeing more and more patients now who are seriously depressed because of what's going on in the economy. Another thing they are seeing is that more companies are either dropping employee insurance or increasing the amount employees pay because of the high cost of insurance. Therefore, less people are able to afford the help that they really need.

Scary times for a lot of people. If you still have insurance and need help, contact someone! If you are lucky enough to have an Employee Assistance Program, contact them. They must keep your request confidential. If you can't afford anything, at least call a suicide prevention line. Like Troop said, it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem. It will affect your family and friends forever.
 
Hey, I'm been having some weird thoughts too. For some, reason, I wake up in the mornings wondering why I'm alive. The thought just comes and goes in matter of minutes.

I have no desire to commit suicide, but why am I wondering about reasons for being alive? Is it an age thing? Am I feeling old? Is it the realization that I'm not where I want to be?
 
hs_teacher said:
Hey, I'm been having some weird thoughts too. For some, reason, I wake up in the mornings wondering why I'm alive. The thought just comes and goes in matter of minutes.

I have no desire to commit suicide, but why am I wondering about reasons for being alive? Is it an age thing? Am I feeling old? Is it the realization that I'm not where I want to be?
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I think looking at your mortality is a good thing. It does seem to come with age. Different for different people, of course. The questions bring up philosophy and religion. Personally, I don't think there is a "why" in being alive. Others disagree. For most people, we spend our lives trying not to think about the fact that we will die. It is sad to think that one day, you just won't exist any more. Eternal life promised through religion helps people not be so sad. Whether it is true or not is another matter.
 
Troop, I'm terribly sorry to hear about your Colleague and I see others have written some good advice....

Another option is to dial 211, I'm involved through the United Way at work and if anyone is seeking any kind of help then it's a direct line to all kinds of resources....

Quote of the year comes from Trooper "we will get through this together"
 
My condolences Trooper. Sometimes people are just so overwhelmed at the size and suddeness of a problem that they disconnect it from the context of reality, allowing the problem to supercede everything... including rational solutions. At that point, irrational options seem like plausible choices. The key to getting through periods of great emotional/personal upheaval is to just keep putting one foot in front of the other, stick to the normal routine, do the next indicated thing in your day, and keep at it until things settle down.

As another poster mentioned, sometimes the most comforting words in the English language are "This, too, shall pass".
 
T!m said:
hs_teacher said:
Hey, I'm been having some weird thoughts too. For some, reason, I wake up in the mornings wondering why I'm alive. The thought just comes and goes in matter of minutes.

I have no desire to commit suicide, but why am I wondering about reasons for being alive? Is it an age thing? Am I feeling old? Is it the realization that I'm not where I want to be?
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I think looking at your mortality is a good thing. It does seem to come with age. Different for different people, of course. The questions bring up philosophy and religion. Personally, I don't think there is a "why" in being alive. Others disagree. For most people, we spend our lives trying not to think about the fact that we will die. It is sad to think that one day, you just won't exist any more. Eternal life promised through religion helps people not be so sad. Whether it is true or not is another matter.
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Ah, the age-old question: "What is the meaning of life"? I do, of course, believe in the soul's eternal life but even if I did not, I would not be afraid of the day I take my final "dirt nap". Just as we had no worries before we were here, we will have none after. It is good for you and the rest of us to examine these things, though....it will help us set our priorities and get the most out of life. Cheers. :)
 
hs_teacher said:
Hey, I'm been having some weird thoughts too. For some, reason, I wake up in the mornings wondering why I'm alive. The thought just comes and goes in matter of minutes.

I have no desire to commit suicide, but why am I wondering about reasons for being alive? Is it an age thing? Am I feeling old? Is it the realization that I'm not where I want to be?
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I don't think your thoughts are weird. I think it is a very common question that comes up from any half-way introspective person.

A valuable and memorable class from my former MBA program offered a great message on "the meaning of work." The link doesn't appear to be working now, and the class was many moons ago, but I've put a message in to the professor, Craig Dunn, to see if there is an updated link. If you are really not where you want to be, there's always time to change it.

If you are, indeed, a teacher, I am sure that the "why" is tough many days. My father and his father were both High School teachers and administrators. They both found the rewards of their job delayed many years until after their students had graduated and later found out how valuable their lessons were. Your work is valuable whether you see it now or not.

Good luck.
 
Trooper,

Sorry to hear the news.

3 years ago my best friend took his life. He left his wife and two children. To this day, I wake up thinking what could I have done for my friend, why didn't I see it coming............
 
We're lucky enough to have an assigned psychologist at every station house. He's been making the rounds lately !!

hs_teacher, I don't believe the thoughts you are having are uncommon at all. The psychologist told us the other day that everyone has thought of suicide at least one or more times during their life. I was surprised to hear that. As a youth I did, and after reading my story I'm sure you understand why.

I think what you are going through is real...you just need to find something that makes you happy first thing in the morning (quiet down, you dirty birds). Like having coffee pre-made when you get up, or a treat for breakfast (diiiiirrrrttttyyyyy birds). You know what I mean. ;)

Could be seasonal as well.....

Thank you for all the kind words IHB'rs.
 
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