Student researching about crime in Irvine homes needs your help

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rok1982_IHB

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Hi everyone,



I'm a 2nd year Masters in Urban and Regional Planning student. My thesis paper is focused on crime rates within gated communities of Irvine. That said, I was wondering if any of you knew of where there is a list of all the gated communities available in Irvine? This paper will focus on single family homes and will compare the crime rate (part 1 level) to non-gated communities. I have been having difficulty finding a "master" list of all the gated communities within Irvine. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. This paper will be joint study with the school (me, the student at UCI) and a consultant for Irvine PD. Once again thank you! If this post was placed in the wrong area, I apologize.
 
I think you will have some problems trying to find info in this area. Hopefully there are a few here willing to share info, but all I have to say is, good luck.
 
Have you tried speaking with someone in either the city Planning or Community Development departments? Those are the two departments that have to have a hand in everything - residential, commercial or industrial - that gets built in the city. Although they may not be able to open all of their records to you, I'm sure they will be able to help you to some degree if you can give them sufficient detail of the information you need. Best of luck.
 
I don't know of any such list, but I grew up here and I'll try to list all of the gated neighborhoods I can think of.



Breakdown by Neighborhood:



Turtle Ridge:

Almost all of it except the condos at the bottom of the hill

Canyon's Edge off of Bonita Canyon



Turtle Rock:

Summit Estates

Concordia



Shady Canyon:

all of it



Quail Hill:

None



University Park:

None



Rancho San Joaquin:

None:



Woodbridge:

None for detached. Some condo communities are though.



Oak Creek:

Yes, both sides N/S of Alton have some SFR that are gated



Deerfield:

None



El Camino:

None



College Park:

Yes, the are N of Walnut has a bunch with the streets named after the states. Harvard Square?



Orange Tree:

None:



Westpark:

None, but a bunch of condos are gated.



Tustin Fields:

Yes, Kensington Park area. I'm not sure how many detached are in there.



Columbus Grove:

None, but I'm not completely sure.



Northwood:

None



Northwood II:

Yes, the ones built off of Jeffrey.



Northwood Pointe:

Yes, but I'm not completly sure.



Northpark:

Yes, but not Northpark Square. (or is it the other way around?) The homes off of Central Park Ave are gated.



Woodbury:

None



Portola Springs:

None



West Irvine:

None



These are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I hope this helps.
 
Northpark is fully gated, but contains condos as well as SFRs. Northpark Square has one section that is gated, which also contains condos (paired and detached) as well as SFRs. The author might have to tweak his / her premise a bit given that a lot of gated communities in Irvine do not contain only SFRs, but have a mix of SFRs and attached and detached condos.



If the author completely scraps the premise, I'm sure there are more than a few people around here who would want to know whether Irvine students who attend schools in the Tustin school district have higher rates of criminality than those who attend Irvine school district schools. (<--- If you haven't been around long, this is said slightly tongue in cheek and is a bit of an inside joke.)
 
There are some neighborhoods in upper Northwood that are also gated.



QHBruin's list is about as comprehensive as you can get... although bk or IR2 could probably be more exact.
 
what is this "Crime"? i have not heard of this term. when i go to dictionary.com from my office here in irvine and search the word, my browser is automatically redirects to a webpage with a happy face and banner that says, "Sorry, this site is currently under maintenance. Have a nice day! -City of Irvine"



the only other time i've heard it mentioned was in grade school. someone mentioned it i think, or maybe they were talking about grime. the teacher shushed him and he was sent to the principals office. we never saw that boy again.
 
The south side of Northwood Pointe is completely gated. A small enclave of Northpark Square is gated.



Right before Turtle Ridge gate there is a Cal Pac Arborel/Chantory enclave that is also gated.



Here is my research on gated communities.



The one without guards are completely useless. I wait about 2 minutes on the average and follow the residents in by tailgated them about 10' behind. I have never failed.



The one with guards are much better in term of turning away stupid thieves. All gated communities are required by law to have pedestrians access regardless of legal residency. I can walk into Shady Canyon and Crystal Cove anytime as I wish. Their HOA however amended their policy stating the hours between 10pm-6am is not necessary for pedestrians and thus lock the gates during those hours.



Northpark also has similar policy. All gated communities do not have contiguous safety fences. Turtle Ridge and other hillside gated communities because of the slopes there is no fencing there and that is the area to gain entry.



The flat land of Northpark has 3 gates but there are non gated pedestrian openings western edges along the bike trails. Even the coyote knew that for the pet buffet.



You picked an interesting thesis but I feel you will struggle every step of the way by digging in the Irvine's Pandora box. Not knowing the communities is a huge disadvantage for you and this is not something you can learn in just a few days.



Don't bother with google for information just like Kobe Bryant's home the data has been strategically removed.



When you do your research you must be very discreet if you would still want to be an UCI student.
 
[quote author="QHBruin" date=1255354254]

West Irvine:

None



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CalPac Sheridan (Portola/Jamboree in West Irvine) is gated.
 
Off topic, but I wonder if the law for pedestrian access really is a state law, or only applies to Irvine. I see a lot of gated communities in Tustin, for example, and I can't get inside via the pedestrian gate. It can be an issue when I need to get candy for the Halloween.
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1255393727]When you do your research you must be very discreet if you would still want to be an UCI student.</blockquote>


OP, I've been warned about this before from bk, so I'd take heed. Irvine is a tricky place and as it was joked here, they do everything in their power to appear as happy-go-lucky and "crime free" as possible.



Best of luck to you!
 
If you need a list of villages (/sections) to start with, there is a good list of 42 on wikipedia <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irvine,_California">here.</a> (Scroll down to the middle of the page.)
 
Irvine is relatively insulated from violent crime but plagued with thefts, burglaries and vandalism often gone unreported. Moral crime continues to operate in Irvine on a regular basis behind closed doors (Uncle Sam is very upset).
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1255429098]Irvine is relatively insulated from violent crime but plagued with thefts, burglaries and vandalism often gone unreported. Moral crime continues to operate in Irvine on a regular basis behind closed doors (Uncle Sam is very upset).</blockquote>


Just this month a similar issue happened. People broke in to a facility, they claimed to be "residents", they were escorted back to "their house" and then nothing. No ID, no names, nothing. Not even a business card to let the community management know that the IPD was there responding to a call. If it hadn't been for responsibility tenants (*ahem*) they would be none the wiser.



When management called the IPD to follow up, nothing had ever been documented; only the log of the call.



Lovely, no?
 
The PD is also required to submit an annual crime report to the FBI. You should ask the PD consultant you're working with to access that info for you. It may not break down into each specific village or gated neighborhood in those villages, but may be a good start. However, since that data are self-reported by the law enforcement agencies, and commensurate with some of the tongue-in-cheek comments earlier in this thread, you would need to take that infomation with a huge grain of salt.
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1255429098]Irvine is relatively insulated from violent crime but plagued with thefts, burglaries and vandalism often gone unreported. Moral crime continues to operate in Irvine on a regular basis behind closed doors (Uncle Sam is very upset).</blockquote>


What do you mean by "moral crime"? Are you referring to houses purchased with suspicous funds, (non-resident) Asian kids improperly enrolled in the highly desirable IUSD school district?



Or do you mean "I put up an outdoor TV-antenna to against (non-enforcable) HOA-policy so I could watch OTA HDTV" sort of thing?



I wanted to put up a hummingbird feeder on my apartment patio, but I wasn't sure of the HOA-policy. And if I tried to keep it hidden (which I could easily do), then the hummingbirds wouldn't find the feeder. (Despite their small size, hummingbirds DO make a mess...)
 
[quote author="squeaky_rat" date=1256521293][quote author="bkshopr" date=1255429098]Irvine is relatively insulated from violent crime but plagued with thefts, burglaries and vandalism often gone unreported. Moral crime continues to operate in Irvine on a regular basis behind closed doors (Uncle Sam is very upset).</blockquote>


What do you mean by "moral crime"? Are you referring to houses purchased with suspicous funds, (non-resident) Asian kids improperly enrolled in the highly desirable IUSD school district?



Or do you mean "I put up an outdoor TV-antenna to against (non-enforcable) HOA-policy so I could watch OTA HDTV" sort of thing?



I wanted to put up a hummingbird feeder on my apartment patio, but I wasn't sure of the HOA-policy. And if I tried to keep it hidden (which I could easily do), then the hummingbirds wouldn't find the feeder. (Despite their small size, hummingbirds DO make a mess...)</blockquote>


Say it with me, "<em>PROS-TI-TU-TION</em>."
 
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