So I was gone for a while, and I bought a place...

25w100k+_IHB

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I decided to make this thread primarily to THANK IrvineRenter and the rest of the IHB community for creating such a great website, and really encouraging me to educate myself on real estate, the current market, how it relates to the economy, and the ins and outs of homebuying.



I'm sure that without this site there's a good chance I would have payed 480k for some crappy two bedroom over three story place with 800 dollars in mello roos or some such. :)





Instead I was very patient (for me), toured a lot of listings, and after a while found a gem around 40-50k below (selling) comps (so if things go down about 10% I'm still ok)! I've been living in it about a month and I couldn't be happier! Thanks again to you IR and the rest of the community, you've done a wonderful service here.



I know many of you may disagree about my timing, and we may have a few different opinions on where the market is going from here, but the point is you saved me from making some really bad decisions!








The short story of how I got such a great deal (in my opinion) is as follows: toured a short sale property that had a range price, it was almost empty, and looked fantastic. A few nicks here and there, older appliances, some chips in the tiles, badly needing new paint. I saw it was a pretty good buy though, and threw in my offer. I was outbid by a fair amount, and that was that.



about 4(I think...) months later, the other seller fell out of escrow for some reason. It went back on the market. I decided to tour it again. Holy crap, multiple people had moved in with ALL their junk all OVER the place. I remember taking my dad to see this place and him thinking it was a pos.



Worked in my favor. I sent in a slightly higher bid, rates had come down about 1%, and the bank had already approved the sale and was looking for a 20 day escrow.



After all kinds of craziness, I'm now living in a nice place, in the best location in the whole tract, with new paint($1500) and a fixed up floor (~$500 to fix a few tiles, seal it to get it nice and shiny again)



Since its a 3 bedroom and I'm a single guy, a friend is going to rent one of the rooms. Between that and the tax break, the cost of owning the place is going to be significantly less than if I had gotten a nice place from IAC. And I've got almost 500 going to equity each month.



Annnd...if prices come crashing down like the chicken little's of the IHB forum say they will(*cough* graph *cough), I still have a nice wad of cash in the bank and I'll just double down and get a second place! ;-)



Thanks again everyone, i'll still be around so I can time when to either pick up a rental place or buy big into REITs.



P.S.

I should probably change my name to 26w-350k or something huh? :p
 
[quote author="26w100k+" date=1244271654]I decided to make this thread primarily to THANK IrvineRenter and the rest of the IHB community for creating such a great website, and really encouraging me to educate myself on real estate, the current market, how it relates to the economy, and the ins and outs of homebuying.



I'm sure that without this site there's a good chance I would have payed 480k for some crappy two bedroom over three story place with 800 dollars in mello roos or some such. :)





Instead I was very patient (for me), toured a lot of listings, and after a while found a gem around 40-50k below (selling) comps (so if things go down about 10% I'm still ok)! I've been living in it about a month and I couldn't be happier! Thanks again to you IR and the rest of the community, you've done a wonderful service here.



I know man of you may disagree about my timing, and we may have a few different opinions on where the market is going from here, but the point is you saved me from making some really bad decisions!








The short story of how I got such a great deal (in my opinion) is as follows: toured a short sale property that had a range price, it was almost empty, and looked fantastic. A few nicks here and there, older appliances, some chips in the tiles, badly needing new paint. I saw it was a pretty good buy though, and threw in my offer. I was outbid by a fair amount, and that was that.



about 4(I think...) months later, the other seller fell out of escrow for some reason. It went back on the market. I decided to tour it again. Holy crap, multiple people had moved in with ALL their junk all OVER the place. I remember taking my dad to see this place and him thinking it was a pos.



Worked in my favor. I sent in a slightly higher bid, rates had come down about 1%, and the bank had already approved the sale and was looking for a 20 day escrow.



After all kinds of craziness, I'm now living in a nice place, in the best location in the whole tract, with new paint($1500) and a fixed up floor (~$500 to fix a few tiles, seal it to get it nice and shiny again)



Since its a 3 bedroom and I'm a single guy, a friend is going to rent one of the rooms. Between that and the tax break, the cost of owning the place is going to be significantly less than if I had gotten a nice place from IAC. And I've got almost 500 going to equity each month.



Annnd...if prices come crashing down like the chicken little's of the IHB forum say they will(*cough* graph *cough), I still have a nice wad of cash in the bank and I'll just double down and get a second place! ;-)



Thanks again everyone, i'll still be around so I can time when to either pick up a rental place or buy big into REITs.</blockquote>
Congrats on your purchase. Which Village did you buy in? How bad are the HOAs on your condo?
 
26... congrats.. you know you can't just leave us hangin like this...



as our friend G. Costanza said once on Seinfled...



" want details and I want them right now. I don't have a job, I have no place to go. You're not in the mood? Well you get in the mood! ..."
 
[quote author="26w100k+" date=1244271654]I decided to make this thread primarily to THANK IrvineRenter and the rest of the IHB community for creating such a great website, and really encouraging me to educate myself on real estate, the current market, how it relates to the economy, and the ins and outs of homebuying.



I'm sure that without this site there's a good chance I would have payed 480k for some crappy two bedroom over three story place with 800 dollars in mello roos or some such. :)





Instead I was very patient (for me), toured a lot of listings, and after a while found a gem around 40-50k below (selling) comps (so if things go down about 10% I'm still ok)! I've been living in it about a month and I couldn't be happier! Thanks again to you IR and the rest of the community, you've done a wonderful service here.



I know many of you may disagree about my timing, and we may have a few different opinions on where the market is going from here, but the point is you saved me from making some really bad decisions!</blockquote>


First, let me say congrats! I am very happy to hear that IR and everyone at IHB helped educate you in your decision. It sounds like you got a pretty good deal with a nice little cushion. It also sounds like you are really happy with the place you bought. I have always said, if you can buy the place that you <em>love</em> for a price that you can reasonably handle the payment in this environment (and you probably scored with a really low interest rate), and you can hold it for years to come, then by all means buy the place.



Now... I will add to your fun chicken little pot shot. %-P



<blockquote>Annnd...if prices come crashing down like the chicken little's of the IHB forum say they will(*cough* graph *cough), I still have a nice wad of cash in the bank and I'll just double down and get a second place! ;-)</blockquote>


Your plan is better than most, because you have some cash reserves and some equity cushion. However, I really feel like the entry level homes are experiencing a dead cat bounce. It happened in the 90s, and it seems to be happening again. The mid to high end is about to get slaughtered with foreclosures, while the entry level is starting to stabilize. However, once the demand eats up all the supply, then the demand will wane and the entry level will start to fall again to find that demand, especially when that demand can now afford a mid or high end home. What is good, is that while you poke fun at me, you do believe it is possible and you will be able to take advantage of it when the time comes. If I am right, you win, if I am wrong, you win. You made a nice hedge for yourself, and you should be proud of yourself for it, as well as everyone here at IHB should be proud of you. You listened, you prepared yourself, and you will still be able to act. Good job.



<blockquote>P.S.

I should probably change my name to 26w-350k or something huh? :p</blockquote>


LOL! Just don't look at an amortization table for your loan, or you might have to increase that number... you homedebtor. :p Again, it sounds like you made a well thought out decision, and I am glad that IHB saved you from a bad decision. It really is why we spend so much time here, and why you have been reading IHB for a year and a half... It shows it was worth it.
 
<img src="http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/early90sprices.jpg" alt="" />



Our current market as an aggregate is most similar to 1994's market. However, the high end us still behind the curve.
 
[quote author="26w100k+" date=1244271654]Annnd...if prices come crashing down like the chicken little's of the IHB forum say they will(*cough* graph *cough), I still have a nice wad of cash in the bank and <span style="color: blue;"><strong>I'll just double down and get a second place!</strong></span> ;-)

</blockquote>


Dollar-cost averaging for home purchases. Why did I never think of that? Blackvault would be proud.

Congrats again 26.



-IR2
 
[quote author="IrvineRenter" date=1244510978]<img src="http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/early90sprices.jpg" alt="" />



Our current market as an aggregate is most similar to 1994's market. However, the high end us still behind the curve.</blockquote>


If the numbers correlated I would agree with this graph. But we're already past 20% decline, so unless we're looking at an 80% correction then we must be much further along the curve.
 
[quote author="Goofy" date=1244520878][quote author="IrvineRenter" date=1244510978]<img src="http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/early90sprices.jpg" alt="" />



Our current market as an aggregate is most similar to 1994's market. However, the high end us still behind the curve.</blockquote>


If the numbers correlated I would agree with this graph. But we're already past 20% decline, so unless we're looking at an 80% correction then we must be much further along the curve.</blockquote>




in the last bubble (88-91) prices only went 30%-40% over fundamentals. Prices only had to correct 20% down.



in this bubble (2000-2006) prices went to 250% of fundamentals. Prices will have to correct 60% down.





<strong>We are about halfway down.</strong>
 
[quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1244271883]

Congrats on your purchase. Which Village did you buy in? How bad are the HOAs on your condo?</blockquote>


I'm in West Irvine. I liked the idea that it had come down sooner and quicker so I felt its 'ahead of the curve' then other villages. Plus I really just like the feel of the village, the way they laid it out. Low(er) mello roos is nice too.



I'm paying 160+40 total HOA.



[quote author="IrvineRealtor" date=1244516792]

Dollar-cost averaging for home purchases. Why did I never think of that? Blackvault would be proud.

Congrats again 26.

-IR2</blockquote>


Yup, thats the idea. I'm still able to save money every month so I'll be able to build even more of a down payment fund for the next place.



[quote author="IrvineRenter" date=1244510978]<img src="http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/early90sprices.jpg" alt="" />



Our current market as an aggregate is most similar to 1994's market. However, the high end us still behind the curve.</blockquote>


Which works out for me (hopefully). I'm hoping to catch the 'tail end' of the depreciation of condos, and hopefully the superior location/floorplan will soften the depreciation even further, while my future 'move up' house continues to dive another 20-30%.





I hope the post didn't sound like I was bragging too much, I really wanted to convey thanks to everyone and the website because I really do feel it does a great community service. I actually have a friend who bought in late 2006 who is upside down almost 200k in a small condo. While I'd like to hope I wouldn't have made *that* much of a mistake, if not for this website I'd probably be underwater and in a place I probably wasn't too happy with.



Anyways, heres my <a href="http://floorplans.irvinerealtorsite.com/WestIrvine/Mandeville/MandevilleC1478.JPG">floorplan</a> and like I said, I think its an awesome location in the tract and has a great patio. If you guys figure out the address i'd appreciate not posting it here. Also, I should point out that when picking a place, here was the criteria I had (aside from it being the right price):

1. In Irvine.

2. FLOORPLAN. I did NOT want a 3 story condo, or a place that had a kitchen upstairs, or a place with a crappy master bath/closet. I also wanted a general open feeling since I wasn't getting a huge place. I will most likely sell or rent this to a family and I doubt a husband wife want to share a sink or have a tiny closet.

3. Location in a tract. I was hoping for a culdesac but also didn't want to be *too* close to the outer edge to hear streetnoise.





Maybe a few more pics coming soon. Thanks again everyone.
 
[quote author="26w100k+" date=1244527486][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1244271883]

Congrats on your purchase. Which Village did you buy in? How bad are the HOAs on your condo?</blockquote>


I'm in West Irvine. I liked the idea that it had come down sooner and quicker so I felt its 'ahead of the curve' then other villages. Plus I really just like the feel of the village, the way they laid it out. Low(er) mello roos is nice too.



I'm paying 160+40 total HOA.



[quote author="IrvineRealtor" date=1244516792]

Dollar-cost averaging for home purchases. Why did I never think of that? Blackvault would be proud.

Congrats again 26.

-IR2</blockquote>


Yup, thats the idea. I'm still able to save money every month so I'll be able to build even more of a down payment fund for the next place.



[quote author="IrvineRenter" date=1244510978]<img src="http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/early90sprices.jpg" alt="" />



Our current market as an aggregate is most similar to 1994's market. However, the high end us still behind the curve.</blockquote>


Which works out for me (hopefully). I'm hoping to catch the 'tail end' of the depreciation of condos, and hopefully the superior location/floorplan will soften the depreciation even further, while my future 'move up' house continues to dive another 20-30%.





I hope the post didn't sound like I was bragging too much, I really wanted to convey thanks to everyone and the website because I really do feel it does a great community service. I actually have a friend who bought in late 2006 who is upside down almost 200k in a small condo. While I'd like to hope I wouldn't have made *that* much of a mistake, if not for this website I'd probably be underwater and in a place I probably wasn't too happy with.



Anyways, heres my <a href="http://floorplans.irvinerealtorsite.com/WestIrvine/Mandeville/MandevilleC1478.JPG">floorplan</a> and like I said, I think its an awesome location in the tract and has a great patio. If you guys figure out the address i'd appreciate not posting it here. Also, I should point out that when picking a place, here was the criteria I had (aside from it being the right price):

1. In Irvine.

2. FLOORPLAN. I did NOT want a 3 story condo, or a place that had a kitchen upstairs, or a place with a crappy master bath/closet. I also wanted a general open feeling since I wasn't getting a huge place. I will most likely sell or rent this to a family and I doubt a husband wife want to share a sink or have a tiny closet.

3. Location in a tract. I was hoping for a culdesac but also didn't want to be *too* close to the outer edge to hear streetnoise.





Maybe a few more pics coming soon. Thanks again everyone.</blockquote>
Awesome. How many square feet is the condo?



Btw, when's the housewarming party for a fellow BMW enthusiast?
 
[quote author="CK" date=1244540707]Welcome to the neighborhood, 26. Keep a close eye on your beer around here.</blockquote>


The welcoming quintet has been delivered.
 
[quote author="IrvineRealtor" date=1244551393][quote author="CK" date=1244540707]Welcome to the neighborhood, 26. Keep a close eye on your beer around here.</blockquote>


The welcoming quintet has been delivered.</blockquote>


But apparently OP (like the rest of the tract) doesn't use the front door. Still there.
 
[quote author="IrvineRealtor" date=1244632949][quote author="IrvineRealtor" date=1244551393][quote author="CK" date=1244540707]Welcome to the neighborhood, 26. Keep a close eye on your beer around here.</blockquote>


The welcoming quintet has been delivered.</blockquote>


But apparently OP (like the rest of the tract) doesn't use the front door. Still there.</blockquote>


That's it, I'm walking down there to liberate it. Isn't there a rule that if unclaimed in 24 hours it becomes community property?
 
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