[quote author="skihobo" date=1230891311]seems to be some distaste for orangetree homes just based on a quick search for the term?
what don't people like about the neighborhoods?</blockquote>
That community is kind of "gimpy" compared to other Irvine communities. But if you live there, you can use the 2 public access parks in Oak Creek just across the street, and walk to IVC college.
Another is El Camino Real, specifically the part next to the high voltage lines + rail road tracks.