Obama to announce immigration order on Thursday

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Update: Obama to announce executive action on immigration
Thursday
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-on-immigration-thursday-in-primetime-speech/

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According to CNBC, "President Barack Obama plans to announce an executive order in Las Vegas on Friday to address immigration reform, CNBC has confirmed.
Another source familiar with the situation told CNBC that Obama could yet give a broader outline on an immigration order on Thursday and add detail on Friday."
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102183389
 
Tough area to tackle...good arguments on both sides.

Illegal immigrants are pretty much ingrained in our society and economy...especially California.  Reagan did amnesty 30 years ago and the US was fine.  The GOP is fighting a tidal wave on this issue.
 
Irvinecommuter said:
Tough area to tackle...good arguments on both sides.

Illegal immigrants are pretty much ingrained in our society and economy...especially California.  Reagan did amnesty 30 years ago and the US was fine.  The GOP is fighting a tidal wave on this issue.

Did you completely miss what happened in the midterms?
 
test said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Tough area to tackle...good arguments on both sides.

Illegal immigrants are pretty much ingrained in our society and economy...especially California.  Reagan did amnesty 30 years ago and the US was fine.  The GOP is fighting a tidal wave on this issue.

Did you completely miss what happened in the midterms?

You make a good point. This is one of the main reasons Congress changed. (GOP gained controlled Senate and extra seats gained in the house.) Also, this past election the voters of Oregon rejected a referendum for licenses for illegals. 67 percent rejected the referendum. Oregon is considered a democratic state, with govenor and two US senators.

According to the Washington Post, "In congressional races, Republicans who promised a crackdown on immigration were unseating Democrats who voted for legalization in North Carolina, Arkansas and Colorado, with a December Senate run-off in Louisiana offering yet another test."

Source:http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/5/immigration-losing-issue-democrats-2014-midterm-el/

 
eyephone said:
test said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Tough area to tackle...good arguments on both sides.

Illegal immigrants are pretty much ingrained in our society and economy...especially California.  Reagan did amnesty 30 years ago and the US was fine.  The GOP is fighting a tidal wave on this issue.

Did you completely miss what happened in the midterms?

You make a good point. This is one of the main reasons Congress changed. (GOP gained controlled Senate and extra seats gained in the house.) Also, this past election the voters of Oregon rejected a referendum for licenses for illegals. 67 percent rejected the referendum. Oregon is considered a democratic state, with govenor and two US senators.

According to the Washington Post, "In congressional races, Republicans who promised a crackdown on immigration were unseating Democrats who voted for legalization in North Carolina, Arkansas and Colorado, with a December Senate run-off in Louisiana offering yet another test."

Source:http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/5/immigration-losing-issue-democrats-2014-midterm-el/

And, of course, the midterms are incredibly unrepresentative of what the populace as a whole is. The people who show up to vote are much older and much whiter than the populace as a whole, so the midterms should be taken with a grain of salt when it comes to immigration policy.

If the new Congress doesn't like what Obama is doing, then they can go ahead and pass a law dealing with the issue. A Senate-passed bipartisan proposal has been sitting in the House without any action for months. It would highly likely pass the House and become law if given a vote by Republicans. But because Boehner is scared of the teabaggers in his party, he won't bring it up for a vote. So, Republicans are outraged at what Obama is doing, but won't take action on a bill that would likely become law if simply given a vote.
 
NYT said:
eyephone said:
test said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Tough area to tackle...good arguments on both sides.

Illegal immigrants are pretty much ingrained in our society and economy...especially California.  Reagan did amnesty 30 years ago and the US was fine.  The GOP is fighting a tidal wave on this issue.

Did you completely miss what happened in the midterms?

You make a good point. This is one of the main reasons Congress changed. (GOP gained controlled Senate and extra seats gained in the house.) Also, this past election the voters of Oregon rejected a referendum for licenses for illegals. 67 percent rejected the referendum. Oregon is considered a democratic state, with govenor and two US senators.

According to the Washington Post, "In congressional races, Republicans who promised a crackdown on immigration were unseating Democrats who voted for legalization in North Carolina, Arkansas and Colorado, with a December Senate run-off in Louisiana offering yet another test."

Source:http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/5/immigration-losing-issue-democrats-2014-midterm-el/

And, of course, the midterms are incredibly unrepresentative of what the populace as a whole is. The people who show up to vote are much older and much whiter than the populace as a whole, so the midterms should be taken with a grain of salt when it comes to immigration policy.

If the new Congress doesn't like what Obama is doing, then they can go ahead and pass a law dealing with the issue. A Senate-passed bipartisan proposal has been sitting in the House without any action for months. It would highly likely pass the House and become law if given a vote by Republicans. But because Boehner is scared of the teabaggers in his party, he won't bring it up for a vote. So, Republicans are outraged at what Obama is doing, but won't take action on a bill that would likely become law if simply given a vote.

This is what's wrong with the part today. It's divided internally so can't get anything done.
 
Midterm elections are a poor indicator of anything.  Historically, the President's political party gets waxed because the opposing constituents are more motivated to make a change.  Dems will most likely take the WH again in 2016 and probably the Senate.  The House is so gerrymandered by the GOP now that they can hold on but with the changing population, it's a matter of time before seats become competitive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_midterm_election

NYT is right...there was an agreement between Obama and GOP about immigration but it never got a vote.  Many a things that were agreed upon but because Boehner couldn't control his party, they all died before a vote.
 
jmoney74 said:
NYT said:
eyephone said:
test said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Tough area to tackle...good arguments on both sides.

Illegal immigrants are pretty much ingrained in our society and economy...especially California.  Reagan did amnesty 30 years ago and the US was fine.  The GOP is fighting a tidal wave on this issue.

Did you completely miss what happened in the midterms?

You make a good point. This is one of the main reasons Congress changed. (GOP gained controlled Senate and extra seats gained in the house.) Also, this past election the voters of Oregon rejected a referendum for licenses for illegals. 67 percent rejected the referendum. Oregon is considered a democratic state, with govenor and two US senators.

According to the Washington Post, "In congressional races, Republicans who promised a crackdown on immigration were unseating Democrats who voted for legalization in North Carolina, Arkansas and Colorado, with a December Senate run-off in Louisiana offering yet another test."

Source:http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/5/immigration-losing-issue-democrats-2014-midterm-el/

And, of course, the midterms are incredibly unrepresentative of what the populace as a whole is. The people who show up to vote are much older and much whiter than the populace as a whole, so the midterms should be taken with a grain of salt when it comes to immigration policy.

If the new Congress doesn't like what Obama is doing, then they can go ahead and pass a law dealing with the issue. A Senate-passed bipartisan proposal has been sitting in the House without any action for months. It would highly likely pass the House and become law if given a vote by Republicans. But because Boehner is scared of the teabaggers in his party, he won't bring it up for a vote. So, Republicans are outraged at what Obama is doing, but won't take action on a bill that would likely become law if simply given a vote.

This is what's wrong with the part today. It's divided internally so can't get anything done.

What needs to be done?  There are already immigration laws, we don't need more.

Did you miss this -http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/14/us-china-us-visa-property-idUSKCN0IY0N520141114
 
It's almost Thanksgiving and it just reminds me that the first European immigrants were also undocumented.  :)

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