ocrebel_IHB
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<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090112/ap_on_re_us/fleeing_california">doesn't anybody want to live here anymore?</a>
More people left California than any other state last year
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Oscar_IHB
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That can't be good for housing prices.
Priced_Out_IT_Guy_IHB
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One more parking spot.
ipoplaya_IHB
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The dude lived in Nipomo... Where do you go when you need to buy a dress shirt and you live in Nipomo? Santa Maria. Yeah, livin' the Cali dream, not!
no_vaseline_IHB
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It's more expensive to live in the area from Ventura to, say, San Jose than it is in the IE.
And the salaries are about 1/2 or less. For real. I got offered a job with a farming operation doing what I was doing in Bako over there in 2001. The pay was half (!) what I made in Bako, it was more work (!!), and the cost of living was at least triple (!!!).
The only thing that keeps that strech of coastline alive is Socal and Norcal cash out retirements. It also keeps the prices of properties sky high.
From that guys job description, and where he was relocating from and to, I guess he's a civililan employee at some missle related DOD contractor at Vandenberg.
BTW, the last time I went shopping I was in Santa Maria. Eat some of this IPO.
And the salaries are about 1/2 or less. For real. I got offered a job with a farming operation doing what I was doing in Bako over there in 2001. The pay was half (!) what I made in Bako, it was more work (!!), and the cost of living was at least triple (!!!).
The only thing that keeps that strech of coastline alive is Socal and Norcal cash out retirements. It also keeps the prices of properties sky high.
From that guys job description, and where he was relocating from and to, I guess he's a civililan employee at some missle related DOD contractor at Vandenberg.
BTW, the last time I went shopping I was in Santa Maria. Eat some of this IPO.
morekaos_IHB
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Like I have said in other threads, they don't call them cycles for nothing
<a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,974306,00.html">california dreaming circa 1991</a>
"If Greenwald goes, he will join the 510,000 others who left -- they might say escaped from -- California in the past 12 months. That exodus is still smaller than the continuing migration to California from other states of about 570,000 a year. But it shows that to an increasing degree, California's fabled magnetism is reversing itself, repelling as well as attracting many of the get-up-and-go Americans who have flocked to the Golden State in search of the California Dream. The escapees are being driven away by an accelerating deterioration in the quality of life: clogged freeways, eye-stinging smog, , despoiled landscapes, polluted beaches, water shortages, unaffordable housing, overcrowded schools and beleaguered industries, many of which are fleeing, with their jobs, to other states. The very qualities that have lured millions to California for 50 years are threatening to disappear."
Let us just reprint the articles of 1991 and change the dates
<a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,974306,00.html">california dreaming circa 1991</a>
"If Greenwald goes, he will join the 510,000 others who left -- they might say escaped from -- California in the past 12 months. That exodus is still smaller than the continuing migration to California from other states of about 570,000 a year. But it shows that to an increasing degree, California's fabled magnetism is reversing itself, repelling as well as attracting many of the get-up-and-go Americans who have flocked to the Golden State in search of the California Dream. The escapees are being driven away by an accelerating deterioration in the quality of life: clogged freeways, eye-stinging smog, , despoiled landscapes, polluted beaches, water shortages, unaffordable housing, overcrowded schools and beleaguered industries, many of which are fleeing, with their jobs, to other states. The very qualities that have lured millions to California for 50 years are threatening to disappear."
Let us just reprint the articles of 1991 and change the dates
graphrix_IHB
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[quote author="ipoplaya" date=1231846917]The dude lived in Nipomo... Where do you go when you need to buy a dress shirt and you live in Nipomo? Santa Maria. Yeah, livin' the Cali dream, not!</blockquote>
Downtown SLO, they have a Banana Republic there, as well as many other similar shops. I think you would be able to find True Religion jeans there without a problem too. Plus, it is a laid back beach town, you don't need dress shirts, as there are plenty of local shops in Pismo that would have the appropriate attire for the area.
Dude, I would say you need to take a vacation there, and not hit the tourist spots, but I don't want to encourage frivolous spending either. Hopefully next time I go, we can both be in a situation where we can spend freely there, and I will invite you and Ms. Ipo to join us, so you can see more than what you hear about the place is true.
FYI, Nipomo is about the same distance in adjusted driving time to downtown SLO, as is the Irvine airport area is to South Coast.
Downtown SLO, they have a Banana Republic there, as well as many other similar shops. I think you would be able to find True Religion jeans there without a problem too. Plus, it is a laid back beach town, you don't need dress shirts, as there are plenty of local shops in Pismo that would have the appropriate attire for the area.
Dude, I would say you need to take a vacation there, and not hit the tourist spots, but I don't want to encourage frivolous spending either. Hopefully next time I go, we can both be in a situation where we can spend freely there, and I will invite you and Ms. Ipo to join us, so you can see more than what you hear about the place is true.
FYI, Nipomo is about the same distance in adjusted driving time to downtown SLO, as is the Irvine airport area is to South Coast.
graphrix_IHB
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[quote author="morekaos" date=1231851931]Like I have said in other threads, they don't call them cycles for nothing
<a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,974306,00.html">california dreaming circa 1991</a>
"If Greenwald goes, he will join the 510,000 others who left -- they might say escaped from -- California in the past 12 months. That exodus is still smaller than the continuing migration to California from other states of about 570,000 a year. But it shows that to an increasing degree, California's fabled magnetism is reversing itself, repelling as well as attracting many of the get-up-and-go Americans who have flocked to the Golden State in search of the California Dream. The escapees are being driven away by an accelerating deterioration in the quality of life: clogged freeways, eye-stinging smog, , despoiled landscapes, polluted beaches, water shortages, unaffordable housing, overcrowded schools and beleaguered industries, many of which are fleeing, with their jobs, to other states. The very qualities that have lured millions to California for 50 years are threatening to disappear."
Let us just reprint the articles of 1991 and change the dates</blockquote>
Funny that, back in the day when bubble bloggers like me where the scourge of the intarwebs, <a href="http://ocecon101.blogspot.com/2006/12/bubble-blah.html">I pointed out how we were on the repeat cycle of wash, rinse, and repeat.</a> Looks like morekaos proves himself once again.
<a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,974306,00.html">california dreaming circa 1991</a>
"If Greenwald goes, he will join the 510,000 others who left -- they might say escaped from -- California in the past 12 months. That exodus is still smaller than the continuing migration to California from other states of about 570,000 a year. But it shows that to an increasing degree, California's fabled magnetism is reversing itself, repelling as well as attracting many of the get-up-and-go Americans who have flocked to the Golden State in search of the California Dream. The escapees are being driven away by an accelerating deterioration in the quality of life: clogged freeways, eye-stinging smog, , despoiled landscapes, polluted beaches, water shortages, unaffordable housing, overcrowded schools and beleaguered industries, many of which are fleeing, with their jobs, to other states. The very qualities that have lured millions to California for 50 years are threatening to disappear."
Let us just reprint the articles of 1991 and change the dates</blockquote>
Funny that, back in the day when bubble bloggers like me where the scourge of the intarwebs, <a href="http://ocecon101.blogspot.com/2006/12/bubble-blah.html">I pointed out how we were on the repeat cycle of wash, rinse, and repeat.</a> Looks like morekaos proves himself once again.
morekaos_IHB
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Expanding this idea...
Cycles happen over and over, I know that you are probably sick of hearing me say that. On a national sense it can seem a bit distant when looking at the numbers so I wanted to bring it home to those of us who live in this once and again Golden State. This article was penned November 18, 1991. It is long obit of the California dream. Mind you, unemployment in our great state stood at 8.1%, We had just lost roughly 380 banks and Savings and Loans during the year 1990, and we faced a massive budget deficit, in response, more people were starting to flee the state than arrive. Sound familiar? Read on?
"If Greenwald goes, he will join the 510,000 others who left -- they might say escaped from -- California in the past 12 months. That exodus is still smaller than the continuing migration to California from other states of about 570,000 a year. But it shows that to an increasing degree, California's fabled magnetism is reversing itself, repelling as well as attracting many of the get-up-and-go Americans who have flocked to the Golden State in search of the California Dream. <strong>The escapees are being driven away by an accelerating deterioration in the quality of life: clogged freeways, eye-stinging smog, , despoiled landscapes, polluted beaches, water shortages, unaffordable housing, overcrowded schools and beleaguered industries, many of which are fleeing, with their jobs, to other states.</strong> The very qualities that have lured millions to California for 50 years are threatening to disappear."
And our budget looked just as good..
"In an interview, <strong>[Gov. Pete Wilson]</strong> said that record budget cuts and tax increases approved by the Legislature three months ago in an attempt to close the largest budget deficit of any state had proved insufficient. He said the <strong>Legislature would "have to make some very unpleasant choices" and hinted he would try again to win approval of cuts in education</strong> spending that both parties refused to consider this year."
<span style="font-size: 13px;"><strong>Fast forward 18 years...</strong></span>
"The number of people leaving California for another state outstripped the number moving in from another state during the year ending on July 1, 2008. California lost a net total of 144,000 people during that period...<strong>California's unemployment rate hit 8.4 percent </strong>in November, the third-highest in the nation, and it is expected to get worse. A record 236,000 foreclosures are projected for 2008, more than the prior nine years combined, according to research firm MDA DataQuick. Personal income was about flat last year. With <strong>state government facing a $41.6 billion budget hole </strong>over 18 months, residents are bracing for higher taxes, cuts in education and postponed tax rebates.
And...
<strong>Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger </strong>says he will restart stalled budget talks in hopes of getting an agreement to deal with California's projected $42 billion deficit. The Republican governor said Wednesday that he will ask the Legislature's four top leaders to meet with him Thursday to try once again to reach a compromise. He made his comments a day after he vetoed an $18 billion Democratic budget package that included new taxes and state program cuts. <strong>Schwarzenegger said the plan didn't do enough to cut spending </strong>and clear the way for public works projects.
1991 was the bottom af that recessionary cycle. Things got a lot better from then on, both in this state and nationally. No matter what they say it is NEVER "different this time".
<a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,974306,00.html">http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,974306,00.html</a>
<a href="http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost/access/74746560.html?dids=74746560:74746560&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Oct+25,+1991&author=Lou+Cannon&pub=The+Washington+Post+(pre-1997+Fulltext)&edition;=&startpage=a.09&desc=Wilson+Says+California+Must+Cut+Budget+More;+Governor+Hints+at+Slashes+in+Education">Pete Wilson</a>
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090112/ap_on_re_us/fleeing_california">cal dreamin</a>
<a href="http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/jan/07/ca-state-budget-schwarzenegger-010709/?zIndex=33367">cal budget 2009</a>
Cycles happen over and over, I know that you are probably sick of hearing me say that. On a national sense it can seem a bit distant when looking at the numbers so I wanted to bring it home to those of us who live in this once and again Golden State. This article was penned November 18, 1991. It is long obit of the California dream. Mind you, unemployment in our great state stood at 8.1%, We had just lost roughly 380 banks and Savings and Loans during the year 1990, and we faced a massive budget deficit, in response, more people were starting to flee the state than arrive. Sound familiar? Read on?
"If Greenwald goes, he will join the 510,000 others who left -- they might say escaped from -- California in the past 12 months. That exodus is still smaller than the continuing migration to California from other states of about 570,000 a year. But it shows that to an increasing degree, California's fabled magnetism is reversing itself, repelling as well as attracting many of the get-up-and-go Americans who have flocked to the Golden State in search of the California Dream. <strong>The escapees are being driven away by an accelerating deterioration in the quality of life: clogged freeways, eye-stinging smog, , despoiled landscapes, polluted beaches, water shortages, unaffordable housing, overcrowded schools and beleaguered industries, many of which are fleeing, with their jobs, to other states.</strong> The very qualities that have lured millions to California for 50 years are threatening to disappear."
And our budget looked just as good..
"In an interview, <strong>[Gov. Pete Wilson]</strong> said that record budget cuts and tax increases approved by the Legislature three months ago in an attempt to close the largest budget deficit of any state had proved insufficient. He said the <strong>Legislature would "have to make some very unpleasant choices" and hinted he would try again to win approval of cuts in education</strong> spending that both parties refused to consider this year."
<span style="font-size: 13px;"><strong>Fast forward 18 years...</strong></span>
"The number of people leaving California for another state outstripped the number moving in from another state during the year ending on July 1, 2008. California lost a net total of 144,000 people during that period...<strong>California's unemployment rate hit 8.4 percent </strong>in November, the third-highest in the nation, and it is expected to get worse. A record 236,000 foreclosures are projected for 2008, more than the prior nine years combined, according to research firm MDA DataQuick. Personal income was about flat last year. With <strong>state government facing a $41.6 billion budget hole </strong>over 18 months, residents are bracing for higher taxes, cuts in education and postponed tax rebates.
And...
<strong>Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger </strong>says he will restart stalled budget talks in hopes of getting an agreement to deal with California's projected $42 billion deficit. The Republican governor said Wednesday that he will ask the Legislature's four top leaders to meet with him Thursday to try once again to reach a compromise. He made his comments a day after he vetoed an $18 billion Democratic budget package that included new taxes and state program cuts. <strong>Schwarzenegger said the plan didn't do enough to cut spending </strong>and clear the way for public works projects.
1991 was the bottom af that recessionary cycle. Things got a lot better from then on, both in this state and nationally. No matter what they say it is NEVER "different this time".
<a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,974306,00.html">http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,974306,00.html</a>
<a href="http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost/access/74746560.html?dids=74746560:74746560&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Oct+25,+1991&author=Lou+Cannon&pub=The+Washington+Post+(pre-1997+Fulltext)&edition;=&startpage=a.09&desc=Wilson+Says+California+Must+Cut+Budget+More;+Governor+Hints+at+Slashes+in+Education">Pete Wilson</a>
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090112/ap_on_re_us/fleeing_california">cal dreamin</a>
<a href="http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/jan/07/ca-state-budget-schwarzenegger-010709/?zIndex=33367">cal budget 2009</a>
ipoplaya_IHB
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[quote author="graphrix" date=1231865092][quote author="ipoplaya" date=1231846917]The dude lived in Nipomo... Where do you go when you need to buy a dress shirt and you live in Nipomo? Santa Maria. Yeah, livin' the Cali dream, not!</blockquote>
Downtown SLO, they have a Banana Republic there, as well as many other similar shops. I think you would be able to find True Religion jeans there without a problem too. Plus, it is a laid back beach town, you don't need dress shirts, as there are plenty of local shops in Pismo that would have the appropriate attire for the area.
Dude, I would say you need to take a vacation there, and not hit the tourist spots, but I don't want to encourage frivolous spending either. Hopefully next time I go, we can both be in a situation where we can spend freely there, and I will invite you and Ms. Ipo to join us, so you can see more than what you hear about the place is true.
FYI, Nipomo is about the same distance in adjusted driving time to downtown SLO, as is the Irvine airport area is to South Coast.</blockquote>
Don't forget Cakes, I am an ex central coaster... Used to know everyone nook and cranny of SLO since I spent the part of six years partying, er uh I mean studying there. Happy hours at The Flats, shit kicking at Bulls, and late night carne asada burritos at TA's. That was the life!
They do have all the stores now. It's gone all suburban. The wife and I would head up there every year before the kids were born. Will probably start that tradition again beginning this summer. My father-in-law is one of the retires that supports the local economy. His pad is in Los Osos.
Downtown SLO, they have a Banana Republic there, as well as many other similar shops. I think you would be able to find True Religion jeans there without a problem too. Plus, it is a laid back beach town, you don't need dress shirts, as there are plenty of local shops in Pismo that would have the appropriate attire for the area.
Dude, I would say you need to take a vacation there, and not hit the tourist spots, but I don't want to encourage frivolous spending either. Hopefully next time I go, we can both be in a situation where we can spend freely there, and I will invite you and Ms. Ipo to join us, so you can see more than what you hear about the place is true.
FYI, Nipomo is about the same distance in adjusted driving time to downtown SLO, as is the Irvine airport area is to South Coast.</blockquote>
Don't forget Cakes, I am an ex central coaster... Used to know everyone nook and cranny of SLO since I spent the part of six years partying, er uh I mean studying there. Happy hours at The Flats, shit kicking at Bulls, and late night carne asada burritos at TA's. That was the life!
They do have all the stores now. It's gone all suburban. The wife and I would head up there every year before the kids were born. Will probably start that tradition again beginning this summer. My father-in-law is one of the retires that supports the local economy. His pad is in Los Osos.
stepping_up_IHB
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[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1231847647]It's more expensive to live in the area from Ventura to, say, San Jose than it is in the IE.
And the salaries are about 1/2 or less. For real. I got offered a job with a farming operation doing what I was doing in Bako over there in 2001. The pay was half (!) what I made in Bako, it was more work (!!), and the cost of living was at least triple (!!!).
The only thing that keeps that strech of coastline alive is Socal and Norcal cash out retirements. It also keeps the prices of properties sky high.
From that guys job description, and where he was relocating from and to, I guess he's a civililan employee at some missle related DOD contractor at Vandenberg.
BTW, the last time I went shopping I was in Santa Maria. Eat some of this IPO.</blockquote>
And we paid too much for a place in Paso, helping to keep prices there up.
And the salaries are about 1/2 or less. For real. I got offered a job with a farming operation doing what I was doing in Bako over there in 2001. The pay was half (!) what I made in Bako, it was more work (!!), and the cost of living was at least triple (!!!).
The only thing that keeps that strech of coastline alive is Socal and Norcal cash out retirements. It also keeps the prices of properties sky high.
From that guys job description, and where he was relocating from and to, I guess he's a civililan employee at some missle related DOD contractor at Vandenberg.
BTW, the last time I went shopping I was in Santa Maria. Eat some of this IPO.</blockquote>
And we paid too much for a place in Paso, helping to keep prices there up.
caycifish_IHB
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[quote author="stepping_up" date=1231926626]
And we paid too much for a place in Paso, helping to keep prices there up.</blockquote>
Was it at least one of the cute houses up there?
Paso was a nice place to visit and buy way too much wine.
And we paid too much for a place in Paso, helping to keep prices there up.</blockquote>
Was it at least one of the cute houses up there?
Paso was a nice place to visit and buy way too much wine.
stepping_up_IHB
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[quote author="caycifish" date=1231928493][quote author="stepping_up" date=1231926626]
And we paid too much for a place in Paso, helping to keep prices there up.</blockquote>
Was it at least one of the cute houses up there?</blockquote>
Yes, it's a darling 1941 home on Oak Street, which is parallel to Spring on the West side. 7 minute walk to the square. And yes, the wine is irresistable. Which wineries did you visit?
And we paid too much for a place in Paso, helping to keep prices there up.</blockquote>
Was it at least one of the cute houses up there?
</blockquote>Yes, it's a darling 1941 home on Oak Street, which is parallel to Spring on the West side. 7 minute walk to the square. And yes, the wine is irresistable. Which wineries did you visit?
morekaos_IHB
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Wait, what year is this again? 1991 or 2009? I am getting very confused...
<a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/12/the-failure-of.html">State warns of coming IOUs </a>
<a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE6DF123DF931A35754C0A964958260&n=Top/Reference/Times Topics/People/R/Reinhold, Robert">CALIFORNIA FORCED TO TURN TO I.O.U.'S </a>
<a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/12/the-failure-of.html">State warns of coming IOUs </a>
<a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE6DF123DF931A35754C0A964958260&n=Top/Reference/Times Topics/People/R/Reinhold, Robert">CALIFORNIA FORCED TO TURN TO I.O.U.'S </a>
graphrix_IHB
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[quote author="stepping_up" date=1231932495][quote author="caycifish" date=1231928493][quote author="stepping_up" date=1231926626]
And we paid too much for a place in Paso, helping to keep prices there up.</blockquote>
Was it at least one of the cute houses up there?</blockquote>
Yes, it's a darling 1941 home on Oak Street, which is parallel to Spring on the West side. 7 minute walk to the square. And yes, the wine is irresistable. Which wineries did you visit?</blockquote>
The question should be which wineries did you not go to. I am hoping to do some sort of report on our Paso trip this week, but I have a lot on my plate, so no guarantees. Lets put it this way, L'Aventure is my new favorite winery, and a particular bottle can not be had until I reach a certain goal. That goal, and that wine will take priority over much of my life until the goal has been accomplished.
And we paid too much for a place in Paso, helping to keep prices there up.</blockquote>
Was it at least one of the cute houses up there?
</blockquote>Yes, it's a darling 1941 home on Oak Street, which is parallel to Spring on the West side. 7 minute walk to the square. And yes, the wine is irresistable. Which wineries did you visit?</blockquote>
The question should be which wineries did you not go to. I am hoping to do some sort of report on our Paso trip this week, but I have a lot on my plate, so no guarantees. Lets put it this way, L'Aventure is my new favorite winery, and a particular bottle can not be had until I reach a certain goal. That goal, and that wine will take priority over much of my life until the goal has been accomplished.
morekaos_IHB
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[quote author="graphrix" date=1231977706][quote author="stepping_up" date=1231932495][quote author="caycifish" date=1231928493][quote author="stepping_up" date=1231926626]
And we paid too much for a place in Paso, helping to keep prices there up.</blockquote>
Was it at least one of the cute houses up there?</blockquote>
Yes, it's a darling 1941 home on Oak Street, which is parallel to Spring on the West side. 7 minute walk to the square. And yes, the wine is irresistable. Which wineries did you visit?</blockquote>
The question should be which wineries did you not go to. I am hoping to do some sort of report on our Paso trip this week, but I have a lot on my plate, so no guarantees. Lets put it this way, L'Aventure is my new favorite winery, and a particular bottle can not be had until I reach a certain goal. That goal, and that wine will take priority over much of my life until the goal has been accomplished.</blockquote>
I'll bite. What is the goal?
And we paid too much for a place in Paso, helping to keep prices there up.</blockquote>
Was it at least one of the cute houses up there?
</blockquote>Yes, it's a darling 1941 home on Oak Street, which is parallel to Spring on the West side. 7 minute walk to the square. And yes, the wine is irresistable. Which wineries did you visit?</blockquote>
The question should be which wineries did you not go to. I am hoping to do some sort of report on our Paso trip this week, but I have a lot on my plate, so no guarantees. Lets put it this way, L'Aventure is my new favorite winery, and a particular bottle can not be had until I reach a certain goal. That goal, and that wine will take priority over much of my life until the goal has been accomplished.</blockquote>
I'll bite. What is the goal?
stepping_up_IHB
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[quote author="graphrix" date=1231977706][quote author="stepping_up" date=1231932495][quote author="caycifish" date=1231928493][quote author="stepping_up" date=1231926626]
And we paid too much for a place in Paso, helping to keep prices there up.</blockquote>
Was it at least one of the cute houses up there?</blockquote>
Yes, it's a darling 1941 home on Oak Street, which is parallel to Spring on the West side. 7 minute walk to the square. And yes, the wine is irresistable. Which wineries did you visit?</blockquote>
The question should be which wineries did you not go to. I am hoping to do some sort of report on our Paso trip this week, but I have a lot on my plate, so no guarantees. Lets put it this way, L'Aventure is my new favorite winery, and a particular bottle can not be had until I reach a certain goal. That goal, and that wine will take priority over much of my life until the goal has been accomplished.</blockquote>
L'Aventure is outstanding!
And we paid too much for a place in Paso, helping to keep prices there up.</blockquote>
Was it at least one of the cute houses up there?
</blockquote>Yes, it's a darling 1941 home on Oak Street, which is parallel to Spring on the West side. 7 minute walk to the square. And yes, the wine is irresistable. Which wineries did you visit?</blockquote>
The question should be which wineries did you not go to. I am hoping to do some sort of report on our Paso trip this week, but I have a lot on my plate, so no guarantees. Lets put it this way, L'Aventure is my new favorite winery, and a particular bottle can not be had until I reach a certain goal. That goal, and that wine will take priority over much of my life until the goal has been accomplished.</blockquote>
L'Aventure is outstanding!
caycifish_IHB
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[quote author="graphrix" date=1231977706][quote author="stepping_up" date=1231932495][quote author="caycifish" date=1231928493][quote author="stepping_up" date=1231926626]
And we paid too much for a place in Paso, helping to keep prices there up.</blockquote>
Was it at least one of the cute houses up there?</blockquote>
Yes, it's a darling 1941 home on Oak Street, which is parallel to Spring on the West side. 7 minute walk to the square. And yes, the wine is irresistable. Which wineries did you visit?</blockquote>
The question should be which wineries did you not go to. I am hoping to do some sort of report on our Paso trip this week, but I have a lot on my plate, so no guarantees. Lets put it this way, L'Aventure is my new favorite winery, and a particular bottle can not be had until I reach a certain goal. That goal, and that wine will take priority over much of my life until the goal has been accomplished.</blockquote>
We did 15 wineries in 2.25 days. Splitting tastings was the only way we pulled it off (and neither of us was driving). I'd have to go look at the list to see which ones we went to, but Jada, Thatcher, Hunt, Calcareous, Dunning, Windward, Opolo, Turley, Eberle, and Tobin James come to mind.
And it's neat that an expensive bottle of wine works as a carrot for graph. The bottle is currently in the middle of my dining table...waiting patiently. I'll let graph talk about his goal if he wants to.
And we paid too much for a place in Paso, helping to keep prices there up.</blockquote>
Was it at least one of the cute houses up there?
</blockquote>Yes, it's a darling 1941 home on Oak Street, which is parallel to Spring on the West side. 7 minute walk to the square. And yes, the wine is irresistable. Which wineries did you visit?</blockquote>
The question should be which wineries did you not go to. I am hoping to do some sort of report on our Paso trip this week, but I have a lot on my plate, so no guarantees. Lets put it this way, L'Aventure is my new favorite winery, and a particular bottle can not be had until I reach a certain goal. That goal, and that wine will take priority over much of my life until the goal has been accomplished.</blockquote>
We did 15 wineries in 2.25 days. Splitting tastings was the only way we pulled it off (and neither of us was driving). I'd have to go look at the list to see which ones we went to, but Jada, Thatcher, Hunt, Calcareous, Dunning, Windward, Opolo, Turley, Eberle, and Tobin James come to mind.
And it's neat that an expensive bottle of wine works as a carrot for graph. The bottle is currently in the middle of my dining table...waiting patiently.
I'll let graph talk about his goal if he wants to.
stepping_up_IHB
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What did you think of Opolo? It's been our list of wineries to try, but still haven't been. BTW, we always share tastings and even at that, I'm mighty impressed by how many you two tasted at in only 2.25 days.
Daedalus_IHB
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[quote author="graphrix" date=1231977706]a particular bottle can not be had until I reach a certain goal. </blockquote>
[quote author="caycifish" date=1231980326]I'll let graph talk about his goal if he wants to.</blockquote>
Man, what a couple of teases. C'mon Graph, spit it out.
[quote author="caycifish" date=1231980326]I'll let graph talk about his goal if he wants to.</blockquote>
Man, what a couple of teases. C'mon Graph, spit it out.