Is Lambert Ranch a smart buy?

Is Lambert Ranch a smart buy?

  • Yes. They are totally different and higher quality than anything else out there on the market. I rec

    Votes: 10 37.0%
  • No. Lambert ranch is all Hype. Landfill. Cell tower. Close to Prison. Too close together. I don't li

    Votes: 17 63.0%

  • Total voters
    27
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Whether you like it or not (location, floorplans, etc), you can't argue that LR is the same as what's out there in the Irvine market, and you can't argue that TNHC is no different from TIC. Reading about some of the horror stories on here about the impersonal nature of the buying process and the markups that TIC offers, I can say that TNHC has been a delight to work with in the home-buying process. Yup, I'm biased, and it's based on my direct experiences. Again, love or hate LR, it's genuinely different (and better, I'd argue) than anything being offered by TIC.
 
I would say the buying experience seems different based on posts here but I don't think the product is all that different.

Most of the homes are similar to what has been built in Woodbury.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
I would say the buying experience seems different based on posts here but I don't think the product is all that different.

Most of the homes are similar to what has been built in Woodbury.

I was referring to the *new* home market. I'm not terribly familiar with what's been built in Woodbury in the past, but if you're looking for a new home in Irvine or surrounding areas, there really isn't anything similar in size or design to what's being offered at The Grove at LR.
 
San Marino in Woodbury and Toscana in Laguna Altura have similarly sized homes.

The smallest LR models (Grove? Ranch? Prairie? Plains?) is similar in layout to new IP plans (ie Great Room, one bedroom down).
 
irvinehomeowner said:
San Marino in Woodbury and Toscana in Laguna Altura have similarly sized homes.

The largest home in San Marino/Toscana is in the 3100 sq foot range. The Grove starts out at 4200 square feet and tops out at 5100 square feet.
 
Well... the difference is more tied to the size than the design.

Obviously, if you have more square footage, you can be "different"... what I'm saying is that in the same size... the floorplans are not that much different.

If IP had 5100 square foot homes, I'm sure they could be 'different" from what they are currently selling.
 
LR sells well because it hits the sweet spot on a niche market. It is the only Irvine new home development with homes larger than 3500 sqft. And TNHC not being as greedy as TIC.

TNHC offsets proximity to landfill by not having mello-roos. TIC thinks living close to 405 noise/pollution is a premium so they charge you higher mello-roos instead.
Large size homes also enable TNHC to add more flare to the home design, such as features to appease multi-gen. TIC just uses its copier machines and disrespect the elders by having tiny downstair 4th bedrooms.
TNHC is smart enough not to screw up the community design in order to build more homes, unlike what TIC did with Laguna Altura.
 
bones said:
So LR isn't marking up their upgrades?  I'm sure IP's service/design center is as horrible as it sounds, but I can't imagine LR isn't doing a similar type of markup.  We haven't really had anyone chime in on pricing on the upgrades at LR (maybe NYT - you can give some input here).  I purchased with another builder a few years ago, and they gouged just like every other builder.  The only difference was.... it was a different time... and we got design center credits which made everything "cheaper".

I did the vast majority of my upgrades through TNHC because most of their upgrades were very reasonably priced. Sure, there was a markup, but taking into consideration the cost and/or difficulty of doing it after the fact, most of the upgrades made sense.
 
Define reasonably priced.... For instance did you upgrade your flooring? If so what was standard? Why did you upgrade to? And, approx how much did that cost (per sq ft would be fine if you know it)? 
 
thedude111222 said:
Define reasonably priced.... For instance did you upgrade your flooring? If so what was standard? Why did you upgrade to? And, approx how much did that cost (per sq ft would be fine if you know it)?

From what I've been hearing it's about 20% mark-up just below enough that people have decided to do most flooring upgrades through them. With anything if you do post escrow it will be cheaper, but you have to wait to move in or be willing to deal with construction while you're living there so it's trade-off.

Standard is tile (foyer, bath, kitchen) unlike vinyl which I read some IP places (Saratoga?) has and carpet in the common rooms on 1st floor. 2nd floor carpet and stairs with tiles in baths and laundry.

The kitchen standard is very nice, with granite and self-closing finger joint cabinets, wolf stove, and asko dish washer. Because TNHC has Wolf as standard you can also get a great deal on  a Sub-Zero (better than anything from Pacific Sales) if you want to buy the fridge from them.

Of course there are some big mark-ups like a lutron dimmer switch for $130 which you can buy at Home Depot for $30 and install yourself. You could argue you're paying for the labor though but switches are pretty easy vs like pre-wiring which will be a pain to do after the dry walls go up <sigh>.

Hope that helps and best of luck in your search!



 
I guess if you are paying $1M+ for a home, you don't nickle and dime.

thedude111222 said:
Define reasonably priced.... For instance did you upgrade your flooring? If so what was standard? Why did you upgrade to? And, approx how much did that cost (per sq ft would be fine if you know it)?
 
Cklein said:
I guess if you are paying $1M+ for a home, you don't nickle and dime.

thedude111222 said:
Define reasonably priced.... For instance did you upgrade your flooring? If so what was standard? Why did you upgrade to? And, approx how much did that cost (per sq ft would be fine if you know it)?

NYT is a baller. If you have to ask price then you can't afford it  ;)
 
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