Inflation question

If inflation increases, while housing prices are dropping from the bubble, then throw in gradual higher interest rates (to fight inflation)...where will home prices go?



Is there a chance inflation can stop the housing prices from dropping too far? Or will higher interest rates in a hyperinflation environment decrease the value of homes?



Basically , what carries more weight? High interest rates or inflation in the housing market?
 
It depends on the source of the inflation. Real assets (i.e. Real Estate, Commodities, and ILBs) generally exhibit positive correlations to inflation (as measure by CPI), however is very important to distinguish between Headline CPI (which includes food and energy, Read: Commodities) from Core CPI which does not.



For the past several years we have witnessed a divergence between headline CPI and Core CPI, with the former running ~2% head of the latter on average. This is uncharacteristic of the relationship between the two measures. Typically, the high volatility in the headline components average out over time, thus the Fed (Bernanke) uses Core as the preferred inflation measure.



The wage-price spiral (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price/wage_spiral) is the dreaded scnenario where labor is able to accrue inflation into incomes. Since affordability (therfore pricing) of housing is based in large part on income, rising wages should have a direct positive impact on housing prices. Recently we have not seen the increase in wages expected during inflationary times. There are several reasons why we would expect wages to lag inflation over the medium term including (cheap global labor, slowing GDP growth, decreases in corporate earnings, tighter lending conditions, etc.) The point real estate thought positively correlated to inflation, is not positively correlated to headline inflation (which is kind we are experiencing now).



So what does this mean for housing? Nothing good. Increasing costs across the consumption basket of the U.S. consumer in fodd and energy is leaving less money on the table to housing purchases (not to mention dampening consumer sentiment, an indicator long held to portend large expenditures on capital assets. Coupled with rising mortgage interest rates due to increased inflationary expectations, the simple conclusion is that there is more pain to come for housing.
 
So, with higher costs, cheaper labor, and higher interest rates, the housing market won't just over correct it's self, it could really tank?



".. an indicator long held to portend large expenditures on capital assets."



But don't you want to own hard assets during inflationary times?



What about renting? With inflation, shouldn't renting eventually cost more then owning? Will this be the bottom, and the time to buy?



I may be completely ignorant here, but with these coming inflationary economic conditions, won't this be a once and a life time opportunity to buy cheap real estate when this market bottoms out?
 
Certainly there will be a great opportunity to buy real estate. However, your central question regarding whether inflation will put a floor in for housing is a good one. In my estimation that answer is no.
 
Owning hard assets in inflationary times is a myth. Under this logic investors sought out companies with large cap-x in the 70s to hedge inflation, and got crushed.



The best investment during inflationary times is one where the cash flows are perfectly positively correlated to inflation. Unfortunately such and investment does not exist. Even commodities indexes, which are a component of inflation exhibit only a .2-.3 correlation with inflation.



Again using the Net-Operating-Income method of evaluating real estate it is clear that the value of a property is predicated on cash flows, which in turn are directly related to income.



Ergo, if incomes are not rising, neither will rents/housing prices.
 
[quote author="idrnkurmlkshk" date=1214966095]So gold or silver are not even enough to weather inflation?



Eventually, incomes would have to raise..even if it leads to the end.</blockquote>




Or the population overall will just become less wealthy. The long predicted decline of the USA at the top of the heap.
 
[quote author="idrnkurmlkshk" date=1214966095]So gold or silver are not even enough to weather inflation?



Eventually, incomes would have to raise..even if it leads to the end.</blockquote>
No. Incomes do not have to rise. Incomes do not have to do anything. I think this article would be a good start to understanding inflation:


http://www.investmentrarities.com/thebestofrr.html
 
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