How to get off the gift-giving carousel?

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socal78

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I need to discuss this but I can't do it on Facebook because a certain person there will read it and know I'm talking about her.

It's about that unspoken social rule where someone gives you a gift and then you feel obligated to give them one back. But what happens when you no longer want to. How do you get off the merry-go-round?

This has been going on for YEARS. No. Not years. Decades. With a really old friend of mine.

I haven't considered us to be good friends for a very long time. However, she won't stop sending me presents. I haven't seen her or spoken to her in over 2 years! Yet she sends my kids and I Christmas presents and a gift for my birthday as well as cards throughout the rest of the year. It happened again in December. Like I said, I don't think we've been in touch since maybe 2010 or so. However, I try to be a decent human being and therefore, sent her a birthday gift in return. Honestly, I don't really want to spend the time, effort, and money on someone who is not in my life anymore. I've even wondered if she keeps up this relationship simply for the gift-giving! This probably wouldn't be such an issue if I didn't think she expected one. For example, I love giving gifts to people I genuinely like who I keep in touch with and I don't care if one is given back to me. I give for the joy of giving. However, I know that is not her!

I stayed up late one night Google'ing to find the solution to all of this. One site suggested confronting the issue by writing about it in the card at Christmas time... something that goes like this: "Lately I've been feeling like we have drifted apart. I figure we both have enough to worry about with getting gifts for our families and the people closest to us. Maybe you have been feeling the same way?? So, this year I decided to just send you a card expressing my warmest wishes. Please don't worry about getting me anything..."

I thought that was actually a very solid suggestion. But I decided to try something else first that I came up with myself. I set course on a gift-giving trajectory of lowering the value each occasion until I was down to nothing. Let me demonstrate, assuming the value of the previous gift she gave me was around $50:

  • Birthday: Token item (bracelet) picked out at a gift shop. Wrapped. Postage paid. Delivered. Value: $25 < $50
  • Christmas: Movie Tickets. < $25
  • Birthday: Magazine Subscription. < Movie Tickets
  • Christmas: Charitable donation made in her name. Value to her < Subscription
  • Birthday: An email or Facebook post. No card mailed to her home. < Donation

See?

It took forever but I worked my way down to the donation. She responded by sending me a birthday gift of -- guess! -- a magazine subscription! I thought she was getting the hint. But. Then. Christmas came and she gave way more than expected to my kids and I.  :-\

Now, what?!? Her birthday is coming up in 6 weeks. I have no idea what to do. Keep moving down the ladder with just an email? I feel so awkward after her recent generosity.  ???



 
CZ - need your brainpower!

Oh, and I already know what the men will say: "Just stop sending a gift."
 
socal already guessed my response. what if you just do cards for the occassions you used to do gifts for. eventually she will get the hint.
 
Busted.  It's so much easier being a guy.  Seriously, if you don't actually communicate, what's the harm if you pretend you woke up this morning with amnesia about anything more than 2 years ago?  "Grow a pair".  :P
 
I say put a stop, but send her a very beautiful card with hand written note and all. She will get the hint. Either that or she will think tough times for you and send a bigger gift ;-) But someone has to stop.. it's OK, to receive and enjoy the gift, and not return it sometimes.
 
Male perspective....

Qwerty:  hey bro, I won't be sending you Xmas gifts anymore, they're a pain in the ass
Ps9:  ok, I was just gonna mention too, keep things simple, I really don't have time for this...
Qwerty:  I totally agree, wrapping shit sucks
Ps9:  we'll keep it like the Cold War:  Mutually Assured Disappointment
Qwerty:  I won't be disappointed, probably won't notice and we're still cool
Ps9: ditto, go Lakers
 
ps9 said:
Male perspective....

Qwerty:  hey bro, I won't be sending you Xmas gifts anymore, they're a pain in the ass
Ps9:  ok, I was just gonna mention too, keep things simple, I really don't have time for this...
Qwerty:  I totally agree, wrapping shit sucks
Ps9:  we'll keep it like the Cold War:  Mutually Assured Disappointment
Qwerty:  I won't be disappointed, probably won't notice and we're still cool
Ps9: ditto, go Lakers
Heh... that was similar to a conversation I had with a friend.

He called me up and said: "Christmas is too hectic... don't worry about buying gifts for our kids". Done... off our shopping list... although they still send us a card.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
ps9 said:
Male perspective....

Qwerty:  hey bro, I won't be sending you Xmas gifts anymore, they're a pain in the ass
Ps9:  ok, I was just gonna mention too, keep things simple, I really don't have time for this...
Qwerty:  I totally agree, wrapping shit sucks
Ps9:  we'll keep it like the Cold War:  Mutually Assured Disappointment
Qwerty:  I won't be disappointed, probably won't notice and we're still cool
Ps9: ditto, go Lakers
Heh... that was similar to a conversation I had with a friend.

He called me up and said: "Christmas is too hectic... don't worry about buying gifts for our kids". Done... off our shopping list... although they still send us a card.

I am so glad you took the hint. I have already tried this with my friend - simply told her, "Hey, if you were thinking of getting us something this year, don't worry about it", to which she replied: "Ohhh, it's okay! I don't mind at all."  ??? When I open the gifts in front of her, I say, "You didn't have to do that." She doesn't get it. Or maybe she does and isn't willing to let go.
 
One of the weirdest things that's happened with this friend is something that took place several months AFTER her birthday. I intentionally avoided meeting up with her for lunch around her birthday despite her suggestions. I was trying to put daylight between us so I waited several months until I felt I was "in the clear" for it to be considered a birthday celebration. Then agreed to a casual lunch date. When the waiter brought our check, I didn't reach for it right away because my hands were busy. She kept eyeballing the check, then me, then the check, then me. Then she pushed the check towards me!  :o She thanked me for her birthday lunch. I thought it was rude that she seemed to think I owed her. I just can't imagine doing that to someone especially if I invite them out. We always split the check but in many cases between friends, the one who does the inviting is the one who offers to pay. That's standard between myself and other friends. When I invite, I pick up the check although usually the other person will offer to pay their half.

Anyway, my bad that I didn't "grow a pair" (daedalus  :P) but I was so taken aback by what just happened, my knee-jerk reaction was to pay, get the hell out of there, and not look back. That was the last time we had lunch together - over 2 years ago. I've since realized when she "invites me" to lunch anytime before or after her birthday, it's not an invitation, it's more of a gift demand. Wow.
 
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