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How much as the value of bitcoin risen since 11/29/17 (when this thread started)?

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Here’s how much the value of Bitcoin has risen since November 29 2017:

  • On November 29 2017 the closing price was US $9,888.61. StatMuse+1
  • As of now the price is about US $92,150 (per the finance API).
  • That’s an increase of approximately US $82,261
  • Which is roughly an 8.3× (or 830 %) rise.

Can't predict unregulated black market valuation.
 
How much as the value of bitcoin risen since 11/29/17 (when this thread started)?

ChatGPT said:​


Here’s how much the value of Bitcoin has risen since November 29 2017:

  • On November 29 2017 the closing price was US $9,888.61. StatMuse+1
  • As of now the price is about US $92,150 (per the finance API).
  • That’s an increase of approximately US $82,261
  • Which is roughly an 8.3× (or 830 %) rise.

Can't predict unregulated black market valuation.
Sure you can. Bitcoin crashed horribly not long after this thread was started.
 
I'll pile in here...

Crypto is horribly energy inefficient. The network currently consumes the equivalent power of the entire city of San Francisco to process 1/10th as many transactions as the current banking system.

Much of the advantages of crypto are kind of of useless in the real world, ihmo, like being able to instantly xfer money. How often do you encounter a financial transaction when you absolutely need funds to clear instantly? 99.99% of transactions can clear next day with no detriment to the exchanging parties. And for the times when it needs to be faster, bank wires are near instant, work on a proven platform with oversight, and can be obtained for free by the right customers and/or by using the right bank.

The idea that *not* being regulated is an advantage is dubious. For example, if a mistake is made in the *instant* crypto fund transfer, good luck recalling the transaction... How did no regulation work out for those holding their crypto on the FTX exchange? Wow no regulation is so great. /s

The biggest benefit of crypto always has been and continues to be it's utility in nefarious activities. Money laundering, side-stepping government regulation, tax avoidance, paying for illicit activities. That's what it is best at.

It's a terrible store of value (incredible volatility) and medium of exchange (for the reasons above + more), unless there is no other option, in which case, you're probably doing something shady af.

But then again, there's no shortage of crypto evangelist deca+ millionaires to tell me why I'm poor and wrong.
 
Michael Saylor will go down in history as one of the great all-time con men in the world of finance.

His company Micro Strategy essentially kicked off the dotcom crash in the year 2000 when they restated earnings. It turns out they were lying about profits to make themselves look better than other dotcom companies that weren't able to turn a profit.. He had the dubious distinction of the largest one day loss of wealth in human history (up to that time) when his stock flash crashed by 62%.

He's also a tax cheat that had to settle with D.C. for $40M last year to resolve his tax fraud.

But let's treat him like a cult-like messiah that knows more about Bitcoin than just about anybody.

Michael Saylor Lost Big in the Dot-Com Bubble and Bitcoin's Crash. Now He Aims to Rebound Again

Being in a tight spot is familiar territory for the 57-year-old Saylor. After the dot-com bubble burst in March 2000, Jim Cramer, the CNBC host, pointed to the collapse of MicroStrategy as a catalyst. The stock had tumbled 62% in a single day after MicroStrategy announced accounting mistakes, erasing $6 billion from Saylor’s wealth and marking a prominent end to the high-flying days of the early Internet. Later that year, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission brought, and then settled, accounting charges against MicroStrategy, Saylor and other company executives.

 
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