How most of us feel....

[quote author="Oscar" date=1235477156][quote author="stepping_up" date=1235476889]No Vas is definitely not a liberal, libertarian, yes, liberal no. I, however, am proud to say that I am a liberal and don't buy the limbaugh/coulter garbage of painting left of center as evil. In fact, I actually think I"m more of a centrist, but the way these clowns have painted the picture, I claim liberal because according to the extreme nutter right, if you aren't totally with them then you are a Liberal with a capital L. What's with this hammon guy, anyway?</blockquote>
I'm guessing too many paint chips, but what's your theory?</blockquote>


Gas caused by excessive milk consumption.



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4-5 gallons a week people!
 
Too funny... as I was reading this, my hubby walked into the room to lament that he forgot to buy milk today and I just started laughing histerically. I tried to explain, but he just doesn't get IHB.
 
[quote author="jhammons01" date=1235481078]So lemme get this straight.......



The past four post are nothing about the topic, rather, about me.



And the last four are all ridicule of someone that takes a view that is not in line with "Dear Leader".



And someone wondered why anyone would thing this forum is full of Liberals.



I present exhibit "A": Post 52-56</blockquote>


Dude, I can't make sense of what you're trying to say.. seriously, you need to post coherent stuff. Maybe you need to lay off the milk or perhaps it's withdrawals, but I really do not get what your points are. Yeah, the CPI has been going up at ~2 to 3 % yr since Volker quashed inflation. Rule of 72 says that in 24 years everything will double. Anyway, don't mean to rag on you, but I really just don't get what you are trying to say as your sentences are not coherent.
 
[quote author="jhammons01" date=1235481607][quote author="no_vaseline" date=1235474597]It's two posts with Santelli getting it wrong. He's wrong on the tea party and he's wrong defending himself. But that's okay, he's wrong a lot.</blockquote>


That is not what you said, Stop lying and face reality of what exactly you did say



[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1235432891] but you are overposting something that has been here since, oh, last week. And you reposted what Anon had posted, four days later, </blockquote>


Followed up with another idiotic statement reiterating your first debacle



[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1235450003]



Bzzt....wrong........the youtube video is the SAME VIDEO as the CNBC link. </blockquote>


Three times I had to correct you before you saw that what I had posted was in no way near what was posted prior by anyone.



Now rather that admit your utter F'up you start to dodge and weave and revise........guess what....What you wrote is clear in black and white for anyone to see.



Here is your hat....there is the door, <strong>please excuse yourself before you embarrass the Democratic party even further</strong></blockquote>


You can't embarrass those who are without shame.
 
[quote author="WINEX" date=1235481917][quote author="jhammons01" date=1235481607][quote author="no_vaseline" date=1235474597]It's two posts with Santelli getting it wrong. He's wrong on the tea party and he's wrong defending himself. But that's okay, he's wrong a lot.</blockquote>


That is not what you said, Stop lying and face reality of what exactly you did say



[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1235432891] but you are overposting something that has been here since, oh, last week. And you reposted what Anon had posted, four days later, </blockquote>


Followed up with another idiotic statement reiterating your first debacle



[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1235450003]



Bzzt....wrong........the youtube video is the SAME VIDEO as the CNBC link. </blockquote>


Three times I had to correct you before you saw that what I had posted was in no way near what was posted prior by anyone.



Now rather that admit your utter F'up you start to dodge and weave and revise........guess what....What you wrote is clear in black and white for anyone to see.



Here is your hat....there is the door, <strong>please excuse yourself before you embarrass the Democratic party even further</strong></blockquote>


You can't embarrass those who are without shame.</blockquote>


Exactly... which party has been in control for the last 8 years that led us to where we are today?
 
[quote author="jhammons01" date=1235483647][quote author="no_vaseline" date=1235483161]<a href="http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/forums/viewthread/4488/">I was wrong. I apologize.</a></blockquote>


pfft



And You'll apologize for the milk as well. It'll take time.</blockquote>


If milk prices now are lower than 1986, how is inflation out of control?
 
[quote author="Oscar" date=1235483603]I wonder if jh has figured out "WINEX" yet?</blockquote>


Reading comprehension is not one of stronger skills. It might be a while.
 
[quote author="jhammons01" date=1235484276][quote author="graphrix" date=1235484120][quote author="Oscar" date=1235483603]I wonder if jh has figured out "WINEX" yet?</blockquote>


Reading comprehension <u>is not one of stronger skills.</u> It might be a while.</blockquote>Maybe not but My written skills are better than most.....</blockquote>


I'm sure Oscar will have fun with that one!
 
[quote author="stepping_up" date=1235483198]



Exactly... which party has been in control for the last 8 years that led us to where we are today?</blockquote>


The Democrats had a majority in the Senate in 2001 and 2002. Though technically the Republicans regained the majority in 2003 (through 2006), when you look at the liberal voting records of people like Olympia Snow, Arlen Spector and others, the liberals still had the stronger voice.



The Republicans did have a small majority in the House from 2001 through 2006.



From 2006 through today, the Democrats have had a majority in both the House and Senate.



Of course the Executive Branch was led by Republicans from 2001 through the beginning of 2009.



But that has absolutely nothing to do with where we are today. (Assuming here you are talking about the economy)



Are you confused about the roles of the Executive and the Legislative Branches?



Or is your confusion just related to the cause of the economic problems this country faces?
 
[quote author="graphrix" date=1235411471]Have another drink, then you will pass out and wake up tomorrow and realize how ridiculous you sound.</blockquote>


You know it - 4-5 gallons a week of the hard stuff!



<img src="http://hornstrafarms.com/product_images/large/grade_a_milk_gallon.jpg" alt="" />



Whole milk FTW!
 
[quote author="WINEX" date=1235484967][quote author="stepping_up" date=1235483198]



Exactly... which party has been in control for the last 8 years that led us to where we are today?</blockquote>


The Democrats had a majority in the Senate in 2001 and 2002. Though technically the Republicans regained the majority in 2003 (through 2006), when you look at the liberal voting records of people like Olympia Snow, Arlen Spector and others, the liberals still had the stronger voice.



The Republicans did have a small majority in the House from 2001 through 2006.



From 2006 through today, the Democrats have had a majority in both the House and Senate.



Of course the Executive Branch was led by Republicans from 2001 through the beginning of 2009.



But that has absolutely nothing to do with where we are today. (Assuming here you are talking about the economy)



Are you confused about the roles of the Executive and the Legislative Branches?



Or is your confusion just related to the cause of the economic problems this country faces?</blockquote>


My confusion is more around why you would attempt to blame the Dems (look, I know a lot of them really suck) and defend your party for where we are today. I'm not just talking about the economy... I"m talking our two wars, our energy strategy, the state of our infrastructure, how the vets are treated, etc....
 
[quote author="stepping_up" date=1235486006][quote author="WINEX" date=1235484967][quote author="stepping_up" date=1235483198]



Exactly... which party has been in control for the last 8 years that led us to where we are today?</blockquote>


The Democrats had a majority in the Senate in 2001 and 2002. Though technically the Republicans regained the majority in 2003 (through 2006), when you look at the liberal voting records of people like Olympia Snow, Arlen Spector and others, the liberals still had the stronger voice.



The Republicans did have a small majority in the House from 2001 through 2006.



From 2006 through today, the Democrats have had a majority in both the House and Senate.



Of course the Executive Branch was led by Republicans from 2001 through the beginning of 2009.



But that has absolutely nothing to do with where we are today. (Assuming here you are talking about the economy)



Are you confused about the roles of the Executive and the Legislative Branches?



Or is your confusion just related to the cause of the economic problems this country faces?</blockquote>


My confusion is more around why you would attempt to blame the Dems (look, I know a lot of them really suck) and defend your party for where we are today. I'm not just talking about the economy... I"m talking our two wars, our energy strategy, the state of our infrastructure, how the vets are treated, etc....</blockquote>


I know this may be difficult for you to comprehend, but I blame the Islamo fascists for the war we are engaged in. (BTW, there is only one active war going on that I am aware of. There are multiple fronts in the war, but there is only one war)



And I find the way that liberals treat the brave men and women who serve our country absolutely deplorable.



As for the energy strategy, are you saying that this problem has just arisen in the last 8 years? Furthermore, are you so confused about the role of government that you think that the Executive Branch is capable of solving the problem?



Allow me to clear some of the fog that is perpetually circulating inside your head.



Despite any vague campaign promises that you may be naive enough to believe, $150 billion in government funding over 10 years is a true pittance. US oil consumption is about 21 million barrels a day. Even at the current price of $38 per barrel, this comes out to $798 million a day. Without even considering natural gas, nuclear energy, or alternative fuels (defined as energy sources that no one uses), we spend $291.3 billion a year on oil. Unimaginable riches await the person or company that can either find more sources of oil, or find energy sources that are cost competitive with oil. A small federal subsidy of $15 billion a year is meaningless. If an answer is out there, the private sector has amble reward to find that answer.



But those facts not withstanding, energy problems are nothing new. I remember odd/even gas rationing and lines from when I was a kid. Of course the problem wasn't that there was a shortage of oil. The problem was that the government set price caps on oil and there was a shortage of oil available for the government mandated price. (There's a lesson in there that applies to current problems as well. The markets are more powerful than governments. Any attempt to manipulate free markets ends up being an expensive lesson in failure)
 
[quote author="jhammons01" date=1235486003]RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.</blockquote>


?Got Milk? apparently found this cite:



<a href="http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm">http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm</a>



Rule 4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.?



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[quote author="jhammons01" date=1235473773]I buy 4-6 Gallons of Milk per week.....not ONE last week. They are $5.36 if you purchase two at the same time. </blockquote>


Rule 3. "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy."

Rule 8. "Keep the pressure on."



<blockquote>Ralphs has a deal. 4 1/2 gallons for $5 as a mix and match if you use the Ralphs Card



http://ralphs.inserts2online.com/customer_Frame.jsp?divID=703&drpStoreID=00068



Vons has a deal. $1.99/gal. if you buy two.



Lucerne? Milk

1.99

Gallon. 2%, 1% or Fat Free.

EVERYDAY LOW PRICE Must Buy 2. At checkstand, first item will scan at regular price, second item will reflect savings.



Price Valid 2/18/09 - 2/24/09



http://albertsons.shoplocal.com/albertsons/default.aspx?action=browsecategoryl2&storeid=2408449&featuredcategorydropdown=2:119334&CatTreeID=119378&SortBy=3



Albertson?s has two gallons for four bucks. You need a card to get it.</blockquote>
<a href="http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/forums/viewthread/4488/">All major SoCal chains have milk for $2 a gallon. </a>

[quote author="jhammons01" date=1235486003]RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.</blockquote>
Rule 7. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.?

<a href="http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/forums/search_results/eddb77362ba579c7392af7afd00f8ad9/">Got Milk's overuse of "Rule 5".</a>
 
[quote author="jhammons01" date=1235515523]ah, so you found Alynsky's rules for radicals.



sound familiar? You live them, along with ad homeniem.



you are no more "centered" that Rush Limbaugh is. You are good little liberal...of course you proclaim that you are a "progressive" or a "Libertarian"



I could care less what you say you are, your actions define you as a "good little Liberal"



What? You say you aren't?.....prove it</blockquote>


<img src="http://granitegrok.com/pix/got_milk.jpg" alt="" />
 
[quote author="jhammons01" date=1235519680]^^My work is done here.......</blockquote>


<a href="http://www.thebostonchannel.com/health/4575624/detail.html">http://www.thebostonchannel.com/health/4575624/detail.html</a>



<blockquote>Is Too Much Milk A Bad Thing?

Some Kids May Be Gaining Weight



BOSTON -- The dairy industry has put a lot of money behind an ad campaign pushing milk to help you lose weight.



Heather Unruh Reports On Study

NewsCenter 5's Heather Unruh reported Monday that a new study led by researchers from Harvard and Brigham and Women's Hospital finds too much milk has the opposite effect -- especially for kids.</blockquote>
 
[quote author="jhammons01" date=1235515523]ah, so you found <span style="color: red;"><span style="font-size: 16px;">Alynsky's</span></span> rules for radicals.</blockquote>


No, I found Alinsky. Who is Alynsky?



<blockquote>sound familiar? You live them, along with ad homeniem.</blockquote>


Rule 5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.".



<blockquote>you are no more "centered" that Rush Limbaugh is. You are good little liberal...of course you proclaim that you are a "progressive" or a "Libertarian" </blockquote>


Rule 5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon."



<blockquote>I could care less what you say you are, your actions define you as a "good little Liberal" </blockquote>


Rule 9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."



<blockquote>What? You say you aren't?.....prove it</blockquote>


Rule 3. "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty."



<a href="http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/forums/viewthread/3243/">http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/forums/viewthread/3243/</a>



<blockquote>When David Brooks and my pinko commie ass are in lock step agreement, the world is in a bad, bad, bad place.</blockquote>
 
[quote author="jhammons01" date=1235521192]^^this has what to do with the Topic??? Other than your attempt to deflect from the Original Topic and the Original statement....I could care less about that article



But let's digress, you've spent four days on this Milk price issue started a completely different thread, all in some strange attempt to discredit me.



The truth of the matter is you spent three days getting totally schooled on your Repost claim, so much so that you had to finally apologize in order to keep from looking like a complete douche.



Despite the numerous credible sources I posted stating that the average price of a Gallon of milk is ~$4...you continue to try to post shit from weekly sale fliers as if that counters the USDA National average published prices....



Give it up...this is too easy. Now, you've moved to posting pop up pictures as if you've done something.



You've started a topic on the price of milk......This one is "not" about milk despite the tantrum you've thrown herein......</blockquote>


Rule #2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people. When an action or tactic is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear and retreat.... [and] the collapse of communication."
 
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