kayochan_IHB
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Just stood in line for nearly 4+ hours to get the H1N1 vaccine today in LA.
H1N1 vaccine
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Panda, I second TMare. I heard a very sad story on NPR a few months ago about a pregnant woman in Texas who contracted H1N1, became very ill to the point where they had to deliver her baby a little early and by C-section. Her baby survived, but she did not. I totally respect your wife's commitment to keeping her babies safe, but a potential side effect is not worth completely losing the mother.
I don't mean to be alarmist, but public health is far better in Asian countries that previously went through SARS and Avian flu than it is here in the US. Going through immigration in Vietnam, Hong Kong, and Macau, everyone was scanned with a FLIR by health officials looking for people with elevated temperatures. If your temperature was too high, they might quarantine you. They were that serious about the threat. All US Immigration did was ask for people's papers, asked them where they went, and asked foreign nationals for their fingerprints. There was no health check whatsoever.
Only your wife can decide, but her physician isn't suggesting the vaccine for no reason.
Are you talking about the seasonal flu or H1N1?
I'd be very surprised if you can get the H1N1 vaccine at work next week.
Google has a way to track flu by geographic region.
Google Flu Trends They get near real time tracking by looking at search terms. They did some studies showing that certain search terms (they don't say what) correlate with CDC data over the past few years.
In california, right now it is the one of the worst times it has been in the past 5 years. October usually only has 1/5 or so of the cases as the winter months. So, they are expecting it to become significantly worse.
Get the vaccine ASAP. Imagine coming down with swine flu in Mexico and having to go to a Mexican hospital hoping for life saving treatment (not a great plan given how some swine flu victims can get so messed up, US hospitals have had to use the machine they normally use for heart transplants to oxygenate the blood because the lungs are too fluid filled). If the US hospital system had a national emergency declared by Obama to help them cope with overcapacity - imagine how much worse that would in be Mexico without as much health infrastructure, and what kind of treatment (if you can even get treatment) that might entail. Get the regular flu shot too.
http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20090729/pregnancy-ups-swine-flu-death-risk
Everything has risks. The reason for putting preservatives in vaccines in the first place is that back in the 1920's a bottle of diphtheria vaccine got contaminated with bacteria. It killed about 20 kids. It is thought that today's manufacturing methods are much better, especially the use of single dose vials. But you never know. If the vaccine gets contaminated and there is no preservative, it could be deadly.
depends on where you work. work also puts me in one of the priority groups.
Oh, you're one of those people. ;-)
Actually, I'm jealous. I work in a situation that is not considered high risk, but the people who come into my building might be. If you see a lady wearing latex gloves in the elevator, that's me. I went to a first aid training several years ago where they pointed out that we were at high risk of TB simply because of our location and consumers. "Fan-tastic" was the first thing I thought.
tmare_IHB
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I'm hoping it will get a bit easier in the next few weeks, I guess we're taking our chances until then. Before anyone jumps all over us for being the panicky type, it's tough not to be a bit panicky when you are a teacher. I have just witnessed about ten times the average number of illnesses during the first few months of school compared to the other 21 years of my teaching career. Top that off with having little kids at home who also go to school everyday and it does get kind of scary. I have had about 20 kids out for one week or longer so far. Of course there is no official notice if any of this is actually the H1N1 flu. Our pediatrician just finally received the regular flu shot for kids, this was also delayed one month from the time they estimated it would arrive. Hopefully, we'll all be fine, but my kids will be getting the H1N1 vaccine as soon as possible.
PANDA_IHB
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I am just starting to hear a lot about this H1N1 vaccine. Our doctor wants my wife to get the vaccine since she is pregnant, but she's worried about the side effects to the babies. Can you trust this vaccine? I've heard in the news that several nurses will not take it themselves. Scary stuff.
I keep thinking about that scary movie: "Outbreak"
I keep thinking about that scary movie: "Outbreak"
EvaLSeraphim_IHB
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tmare said:
Panda, I second TMare. I heard a very sad story on NPR a few months ago about a pregnant woman in Texas who contracted H1N1, became very ill to the point where they had to deliver her baby a little early and by C-section. Her baby survived, but she did not. I totally respect your wife's commitment to keeping her babies safe, but a potential side effect is not worth completely losing the mother.
I don't mean to be alarmist, but public health is far better in Asian countries that previously went through SARS and Avian flu than it is here in the US. Going through immigration in Vietnam, Hong Kong, and Macau, everyone was scanned with a FLIR by health officials looking for people with elevated temperatures. If your temperature was too high, they might quarantine you. They were that serious about the threat. All US Immigration did was ask for people's papers, asked them where they went, and asked foreign nationals for their fingerprints. There was no health check whatsoever.
Only your wife can decide, but her physician isn't suggesting the vaccine for no reason.
PANDA_IHB
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Thanks Eval,
I am just worried that the vaccine itself would cause harm to my wife and the babies. We planned our get-away trip to Cancun at the end of next month and the physcian seemed to make it mandatory for her to take the vaccine. I don't know, I guess I am just getting a little worried. I wonder how fast the effects of the vaccine would kick in?
I am just worried that the vaccine itself would cause harm to my wife and the babies. We planned our get-away trip to Cancun at the end of next month and the physcian seemed to make it mandatory for her to take the vaccine. I don't know, I guess I am just getting a little worried. I wonder how fast the effects of the vaccine would kick in?
freedomCM_IHB
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you have more risk getting in the car to get the vaccine than from the vaccine. and multiply by 10 if you are pregnant.
my wife just got hers (since we have an infant, we are in the high priority group). I should get mine through work next week.
my wife just got hers (since we have an infant, we are in the high priority group). I should get mine through work next week.
SoCal78_IHB
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Panda, (I watched all your video clips)...I read in the L.A. Times and on the Nat'l Vaccine Info Center site that the nasal spray and single-dose injection do not contain Thimerisol; it's only the multi-dose injections that do. I'm not saying she should or should not get the vaccine but that's just a tip in case she wanted to avoid Thimerisol yet have the vaccine.
no_vaseline_IHB
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NPR's 'On the Media' did a program about the dangers of the baseless, techless, anti-vaccine crusades.
http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2009/10/09/01
Give. Me. The. Shot. If. You. Don't. Want. Yours. kthxbye.
http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2009/10/09/01
Give. Me. The. Shot. If. You. Don't. Want. Yours. kthxbye.
roundcorners_IHB
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very sad...
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freedomCM said:
Are you talking about the seasonal flu or H1N1?
I'd be very surprised if you can get the H1N1 vaccine at work next week.
Google has a way to track flu by geographic region.
Google Flu Trends They get near real time tracking by looking at search terms. They did some studies showing that certain search terms (they don't say what) correlate with CDC data over the past few years.
In california, right now it is the one of the worst times it has been in the past 5 years. October usually only has 1/5 or so of the cases as the winter months. So, they are expecting it to become significantly worse.
Anonymous_IHB
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PANDA said:
Get the vaccine ASAP. Imagine coming down with swine flu in Mexico and having to go to a Mexican hospital hoping for life saving treatment (not a great plan given how some swine flu victims can get so messed up, US hospitals have had to use the machine they normally use for heart transplants to oxygenate the blood because the lungs are too fluid filled). If the US hospital system had a national emergency declared by Obama to help them cope with overcapacity - imagine how much worse that would in be Mexico without as much health infrastructure, and what kind of treatment (if you can even get treatment) that might entail. Get the regular flu shot too.
http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20090729/pregnancy-ups-swine-flu-death-risk
Strom said:
Everything has risks. The reason for putting preservatives in vaccines in the first place is that back in the 1920's a bottle of diphtheria vaccine got contaminated with bacteria. It killed about 20 kids. It is thought that today's manufacturing methods are much better, especially the use of single dose vials. But you never know. If the vaccine gets contaminated and there is no preservative, it could be deadly.
freedomCM_IHB
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joeyp said:
depends on where you work. work also puts me in one of the priority groups.
EvaLSeraphim_IHB
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freedomCM said:
Oh, you're one of those people. ;-)
Actually, I'm jealous. I work in a situation that is not considered high risk, but the people who come into my building might be. If you see a lady wearing latex gloves in the elevator, that's me. I went to a first aid training several years ago where they pointed out that we were at high risk of TB simply because of our location and consumers. "Fan-tastic" was the first thing I thought.