Best critique on Obama's plan

optimusprime_IHB

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From TheStreet.com's Robert Marcin



Memo to Barack

2/5/2009 1:55 PM EST

I read your op-ed piece this morning and beg to disagree. What America needs, now more than anytime in our economic history, is a profound understanding of the economic situation we face. We do not need a hastily contrived, trillion dollar social spending plan forced down our throats.



This crisis exists because American citizens and their bankers overborrowed and overspent by trillion of dollars. This occurred with negligent government oversight and perhaps even government encouragement via incentives. That is the problem.



We cannot borrow and spend our way out of a debt bust no matter how politically expedient you may want it to be. Any stimulus plan simply shifts debt from one account to another and must be repaid with hundred of billions of dollars of interest.



The solution for too much consumption and too much debt is not to borrow trillions to forestall the economic consequences, but rather to manage the natural downcycle involved in a delevering process.



In my opinion, we should bolster the infrastructure spending part of the stimulus. We have skimped here for decades and it's truly necessary. Also, we should boost the safety net part of the plan. This downcycle will get ferocious because the debt bubble was so egregious. We will very much need these.



But the social spending and pork barrel programs funding need to go. They provide neither living expenses today, nor quality of life improvements tomorrow.



We need to invest this trillion dollars, this really huge money, in a way that maximizes our return. Our kids will be stuck repaying this money for decades. A thoughtful, well discussed plan is the key. Many citizens feel the current program does not represent that. Don't try to Paulson us and claim the world will end if we delay in accepting a Democratic social spending stimulus.
 
which programs are "social spending stimulus" if you exclude the safety net (ue aid, medicare aid, etc) and infrastructure (roads, internet, etc)?



the tax cuts?



the new car and house tax breaks?



spending for the NEA? (personally, employing artists at $25k per sounds cheap to me, but i guess it is only marginally related to "productivity")



spending on science research?



what does this person think needs to get cut?
 
Obviously what we need are more tax cuts and more fiscal restraint - since lack of tax cuts is what got us here in the first place. Nevermind the fiscal restraint.



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Call me radical Freedom, but maybe we can agree to start with the $125 BILLION added since President Obama requested it. As I recall, the initial request came in at ~$795Billion and has now ballooned to $920 Billion.



Last weekend, the LA Times had a great article on the conversation corps in the Great Depression. The Parks system could revive it and clear the maintenance backlog while putting thousands to work for $7.5 Billion. (If I recall correctly, only $2.5B would be needed from the stimulus package.)



Yes, $2.5 Billion.



Now, what is the remaining $917 Billion being spent on that requires 1400 Pages? Non-earmarked spending targeted at facilities of higher education damaged by Hurricane Gustav? A worker's comp exclusion for companies performing maintenace on recreational crafts in excess of 65 feet in length? Funding that applies to three hospitals?
 
Plus, we need infrastructure. At least $1.5 trillion.



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Million - Billion - Trillion - what's the difference?
 
personally, i would get rid of the republican "tax credit" BS for houses (was the new car credit from them, or the dems?)



but rebuilding edu buildings damaged from the hurricane? all for it. it will put some of the out of work construction guys to work. that said, it is hard to pick out who should get infrastructure work like this in a deserving way (apply for the funds through a review mechanism) and make it happen fast. how would you pick out which places get rebuilding money?



who earmarked the boat thing? excluding workerscomp sounds like a repub thing offhand...
 
Oh Please Freedom. Those are earmarks and pork. There doing the wording dance so doesn't say here's X millions for Tulane although exactly what it means.



Frankly, there's a bunch stuff in the bill that may be good, but it should be able to stand on it's own and doesn't need to be buried in a stimulus plan.
 
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