Beacon Park

Not sure if it will slow down sales until it actually gets the shovel to the ground.  Then you will see people not buying around the area.  I might just relocate there for the sake of having more white neighbors.  ;)
 
Harajuku said:
Irvine Dream said:
On another note Torrey "low million" starts at 1.4 million.  Hence would the "low million" of Stafford will also be close to 1.4 million?

High $1.1 for Stafford according to the sales rep.
Yippee, Stafford here we come then.  I think for $300K I can live with noise and other issues.  So what if the house doe not appreciate, I am not going to take my price appreciation to the grave so hope the price point holds true and they throw in a 10-feet high ceiling as an icing on the cake.  By the way do anyone know if BP homes are all 10-feet ceilings like Groves?
 
Irvine Dream said:
By the way do anyone know if BP homes are all 10-feet ceilings like Groves?

Torrey has 10' ceiling on first floor.  I haven't really looked at the details after seeing the high price + MR combo.
 
jmoney74 said:
Are the MRs that much more?  Comparing to what I paid.. sounds in line with the sq footage.. maybe someone else can chime in on comparable. 

Time to cash out guys. I'm moving to John's creek baby.

cash out??  just b/c you lost the HOA election!!!  the jmoney i know is a fighter, not a QUITTER...
 
jmoney74 said:
Are the MRs that much more?  Comparing to what I paid.. sounds in line with the sq footage.. maybe someone else can chime in on comparable. 

Time to cash out guys. I'm moving to John's creek baby.

It varies. Avg maybe $2k? It's not just the higher MR. It's also the higher prices. But gotta pay for the privilege of being able to walk your kids to school for 9 years.
 
bones said:
jmoney74 said:
Are the MRs that much more?  Comparing to what I paid.. sounds in line with the sq footage.. maybe someone else can chime in on comparable. 

Time to cash out guys. I'm moving to John's creek baby.

It varies. Avg maybe $2k? It's not just the higher MR. It's also the higher prices. But gotta pay for the privilege of being able to walk your kids to school for 9 years.
Here is the comparison of MR
HOUSE SIZE PP BP
-- -- >5,700 $12,356 $17,004
5460 to 5699 $11,858 $16,422
5200 to 5459 $11,359 $15,554
4950 to 5199 $10,861 $14,973
4700 to 4949 $10,363 $14,105
4450 to 4699 $9,864 $13,614
4200 to 4449 $9,366 $12,944
3950 to 4449 $8,874 $12,303
3700 to 3949 $8,587 $11,891
3450 to 3949 $8,352 $10,478
3200 to 3449 $7,479 $9,961
2950 to 3199 $6,934 $9,027
2700 to 2949 $6,474 $8,190
2450 to 2699 $5,902 $7,532
2200 to 2449 $5,380 $6,592
1950 to 2199 $4,981 $6,041
1700 to 1949 $4,443 $5,328
<1700 -- -- $4,385 $5,112
 
Irvine Dream said:
bones said:
jmoney74 said:
Are the MRs that much more?  Comparing to what I paid.. sounds in line with the sq footage.. maybe someone else can chime in on comparable. 

Time to cash out guys. I'm moving to John's creek baby.

It varies. Avg maybe $2k? It's not just the higher MR. It's also the higher prices. But gotta pay for the privilege of being able to walk your kids to school for 9 years.
Here is the comparison of MR
HOUSE SIZE PP BP
-- -- >5,700 $12,356 $17,004
5460 to 5699 $11,858 $16,422
5200 to 5459 $11,359 $15,554
4950 to 5199 $10,861 $14,973
4700 to 4949 $10,363 $14,105
4450 to 4699 $9,864 $13,614
4200 to 4449 $9,366 $12,944
3950 to 4449 $8,874 $12,303
3700 to 3949 $8,587 $11,891
3450 to 3949 $8,352 $10,478
3200 to 3449 $7,479 $9,961
2950 to 3199 $6,934 $9,027
2700 to 2949 $6,474 $8,190
2450 to 2699 $5,902 $7,532
2200 to 2449 $5,380 $6,592
1950 to 2199 $4,981 $6,041
1700 to 1949 $4,443 $5,328
<1700 -- -- $4,385 $5,112

Can Test post the Greenwood MR?
 
Irvine Dream said:
Irvine Dream said:
bones said:
jmoney74 said:
Are the MRs that much more?  Comparing to what I paid.. sounds in line with the sq footage.. maybe someone else can chime in on comparable. 

Time to cash out guys. I'm moving to John's creek baby.

It varies. Avg maybe $2k? It's not just the higher MR. It's also the higher prices. But gotta pay for the privilege of being able to walk your kids to school for 9 years.
Here is the comparison of MR
HOUSE SIZE PP BP
-- -- >5,700 $12,356 $17,004
5460 to 5699 $11,858 $16,422
5200 to 5459 $11,359 $15,554
4950 to 5199 $10,861 $14,973
4700 to 4949 $10,363 $14,105
4450 to 4699 $9,864 $13,614
4200 to 4449 $9,366 $12,944
3950 to 4449 $8,874 $12,303
3700 to 3949 $8,587 $11,891
3450 to 3949 $8,352 $10,478
3200 to 3449 $7,479 $9,961
2950 to 3199 $6,934 $9,027
2700 to 2949 $6,474 $8,190
2450 to 2699 $5,902 $7,532
2200 to 2449 $5,380 $6,592
1950 to 2199 $4,981 $6,041
1700 to 1949 $4,443 $5,328
<1700 -- -- $4,385 $5,112

Can Test post the Greenwood MR?

Already did.
 
So who knows who is getting the interest on these bonds that are being paid by MRs?

Seems like that's a lucrative cash flow in Irvine.
 
jmoney74 said:
Are the MRs that much more?  Comparing to what I paid.. sounds in line with the sq footage.. maybe someone else can chime in on comparable. 

Time to cash out guys. I'm moving to John's creek baby.

I was looking at houses at Johns Creek last weekend trying to find floor-plans comparable to BP. They simply don't have houses 2,500 sq. ft or less. We ended up having to stand in houses less than half the price of BP trying to imagine what it would be like with each of the rooms were 20% smaller. Oh... and forget about those stairs down to the basement!
 
Irvine Dream said:
I think for $300K I can live with noise and other issues.  So what if the house doe not appreciate, I am not going to take my price appreciation to the grave so hope the price point holds true and they throw in a 10-feet high ceiling as an icing on the cake. 

real estate appreciation is over rated anyway.  thats great for all these irvine folks whose house appreciated 20%+ in the last couple of years. what good does that do them? it doesnt do you any good in terms of move up because the bigger better house also appreciated by the same amount.  and the irvine fanatics cant even cash out because they refuse to live anywhere else. in general, all buying a house does is it locks you into market at a certain price point and then it is your hedge against inflation. so all that matters is whether you are in the market or out. now being out of the market the last two-three years does suck.
 
I was very surprised at how steep a price BP is starting at. All that said, I suppose they would rather start high, see what the interest was at the event and then through calls, and then as everything gets closer they will finalize the price (possibly lower or higher then stated). I did see quite a few floorplans I liked and do think BP is going to be a fantastic neighborhood with lots of variety and the accessibility to school and GP will be great.  That said, I am very intrigued at the price at the Legacy (which is technically an easier commute). Just seems like it is so jammed in and then from the entire track you have the eyesore of Jamboree. 
 
Bullsback said:
I was very surprised at how steep a price BP is starting at. All that said, I suppose they would rather start high, see what the interest was at the event and then through calls, and then as everything gets closer they will finalize the price (possibly lower or higher then stated). I did see quite a few floorplans I liked and do think BP is going to be a fantastic neighborhood with lots of variety and the accessibility to school and GP will be great.  That said, I am very intrigued at the price at the Legacy (which is technically an easier commute). Just seems like it is so jammed in and then from the entire track you have the eyesore of Jamboree. 

thats the trade-off right. while the overall central location is very good, the community is bordered by Jamboree which isnt ideal. but like irvine dream said, 300K is a lot of money. ive stood at the crawford/stafford models and while the noise is clearly there from jamboree, it wasnt as bad as i thought it was going to be, i think the fact that jamboree is elevated helps. i highly doubt you will be able to hear it from inside the house, but we will find out in two weeks.
 
Bullsback said:
I was very surprised at how steep a price BP is starting at. All that said, I suppose they would rather start high, see what the interest was at the event and then through calls, and then as everything gets closer they will finalize the price (possibly lower or higher then stated).
I seriously doubt that they will reduce prices at the open from what they indicated
 
qwerty said:
Irvine Dream said:
I think for $300K I can live with noise and other issues.  So what if the house doe not appreciate, I am not going to take my price appreciation to the grave so hope the price point holds true and they throw in a 10-feet high ceiling as an icing on the cake. 

real estate appreciation is over rated anyway.  thats great for all these irvine folks whose house appreciated 20%+ in the last couple of years. what good does that do them? it doesnt do you any good in terms of move up because the bigger better house also appreciated by the same amount.  and the irvine fanatics cant even cash out because they refuse to live anywhere else. in general, all buying a house does is it locks you into market at a certain price point and then it is your hedge against inflation. so all that matters is whether you are in the market or out. now being out of the market the last two-three years does suck.

For cash out, you have to be willing to sell at the peak/mini bubbles/run ups and then wait on the sidelines for a dip.  The Irvine market in the last 5 or years has demonstrated this can be done.  There's been many opportunities to buy low, sell high, buy low again, sell high again.  The ones that come to mind are 2010 New Home Collection, Lambert Ranch, Laguna Altura, early phase PP.  Obviously it's a PITA to move so many times with some renting in between if the timing doesn't work well.  Even with the high costs of transacting RE, there's some good profits to be had.  I'm waiting to cash out of my PP place.  I mean, why not right?
 
Irvine Dream said:
bones said:
jmoney74 said:
Are the MRs that much more?  Comparing to what I paid.. sounds in line with the sq footage.. maybe someone else can chime in on comparable. 

Time to cash out guys. I'm moving to John's creek baby.

It varies. Avg maybe $2k? It's not just the higher MR. It's also the higher prices. But gotta pay for the privilege of being able to walk your kids to school for 9 years.
Here is the comparison of MR
HOUSE SIZE PP BP
-- -- >5,700 $12,356 $17,004
5460 to 5699 $11,858 $16,422
5200 to 5459 $11,359 $15,554
4950 to 5199 $10,861 $14,973
4700 to 4949 $10,363 $14,105
4450 to 4699 $9,864 $13,614
4200 to 4449 $9,366 $12,944
3950 to 4449 $8,874 $12,303
3700 to 3949 $8,587 $11,891
3450 to 3949 $8,352 $10,478
3200 to 3449 $7,479 $9,961
2950 to 3199 $6,934 $9,027
2700 to 2949 $6,474 $8,190
2450 to 2699 $5,902 $7,532
2200 to 2449 $5,380 $6,592
1950 to 2199 $4,981 $6,041
1700 to 1949 $4,443 $5,328
<1700 -- -- $4,385 $5,112

BTW - the ones for PP are old.  My bill already reflects the 2% annual increase.  Joy!
 
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