Auto Dealership Deathwatch

[quote author="PeterUK" date=1228316744]<strong>A pathetic attempt at grovelling...</strong>



<em>Ford and GM said they would sell their corporate jets to save money. The executives were criticized for flying to Washington for the last round of hearings on separate private jets.



Ford CEO Alan Mulally was driving to Washington from Michigan in a Ford Escape hybrid. GM's Wagoner planned to drive in a Chevy Malibu hybrid. Like his counterparts, Chrysler's Bob Nardelli will drive a hybrid, the company said.



But that move is ironic. The only two hybrids Chrysler makes, the 2009 Dodge Durango and 2009 Chrysler Aspen, were to be produced at a Delaware plant that has been marked for closing at year's end. As a result, the hybrid models, originally slated for delivery this fall, will never make it to dealer lots.

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Saturday night live take on the Detroit drive...

<A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQCWqJSJlqc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQCWqJSJlqc</A>
 
Funny, I figured it would end up like this:



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rdLOrOLJiA">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rdLOrOLJiA</a>
 
Packaged BK. regular BK whatever...



<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a8NiLMoTo1v8&refer=worldwide">GM, Chrysler May Accept Bankruptcy to Receive Bailout </a>
 
The right way to support the auto industy



<a href="http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2008/12/04/big-three-autos-oped-cx_jk_1205kotkin.html">Help Mississippi, Not Michigan</a>



If Congress and President Obama want to figure out how to restart our industrial economy, they need to travel not to Detroit but to an alternative universe that includes the South and Appalachia, where most of the new foreign-owned auto manufacturers have clustered. States like Alabama, with the second-largest per capita concentration of auto-related jobs, as well as South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia and Mississippi, have been growing these high-wage jobs for a new generation. In the process, they have brought unprecedented opportunity to some of the nation's historically poorest regions.
 
[quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1229087309]When GM and Chrysler go BK before the end of the year, you can thank the greedy unions who don't want to reduce their wages to what other car markers use...



http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081211/congress_autos.html</blockquote>


Actually, they already make the same as foriegn US based workers. The problem is the benefits which is being paid for people to sit around and do nothing.
 
So aren't these pension benefits insured? So if the car cos go bankrupt, the taxpayer then gets to pick up the tab for a majority of the pension obligations? I call shimshamscammalamma.
 
[quote author="Daedalus" date=1229099200]So aren't these pension benefits insured? So if the car cos go bankrupt, the taxpayer then gets to pick up the tab for a majority of the pension obligations? I call shimshamscammalamma.</blockquote>


I thought the unions bought out the pension obligations but in case they didn't we may see the obligations put onto the government's pension insurance fund like United Airlines did. If that happens there is a limit to what the insurance pays out to pensioners.
 
[quote author="morekaos" date=1229123255][quote author="Daedalus" date=1229099200]So aren't these pension benefits insured? So if the car cos go bankrupt, the taxpayer then gets to pick up the tab for a majority of the pension obligations? I call shimshamscammalamma.</blockquote>


I thought the unions bought out the pension obligations but in case they didn't we may see the obligations put onto the government's pension insurance fund like United Airlines did. If that happens there is a limit to what the insurance pays out to pensioners.</blockquote>




There is a limit, but it is high.



The problem for united wasn't for their ground crew or ticket agents $40k/yr penion, it was the pilots who were due $150k/yr. I think the limit is $50k/yr or so.



so for the UAW members, it won't be much of a hit, i think. But if any of the management is due a big pension....
 
coming soon..



<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122939117718809261.html">Bankruptcy Is the Perfect Remedy for Detroit </a>
 
[quote author="tenmagnet" date=1229475979]Not only Detroit that?s hurting.

High end as well.

The Lambo dealership at the Palazzo is in trouble.</blockquote>


This one Ten?



<a href="http://www.ocbj.com/industry_article.asp?aID=18148615.1323008.1704781.49317502.7996927.434&aID2=131128">OC Lambourghini closing</a>
 
Lambo OC closed in November. I'm handling some litigation on that front. Ten, maybe you can pick yourself up something at the fire sale.





Lamborghini O.C., largest dealer of exotic cars, closes

Automaker blames poor management, not economy, for demise.

By JOHN GITTELSOHN

The Orange County Register





The world's largest Lamborghini dealer, Lamborghini Orange County, has closed and owners aren't saying why.



"I can't talk about anything," said Vik Keuylian, owner of the Santa Ana-based dealership.



Keuylian previously said he sold about 10 percent of all 2,400 Lamborghinis made in the world each year. Lamborghini announced plans to move its North American headquarters to Santa Monica, in part, to be close to its largest dealership.



Automobili Lamborghini America said the dealer closed because of its own mistakes, not the economy.



"The financial stress Lamborghini Orange County is experiencing is due to several unfortunate business decisions made by management at Lamborghini Orange County, independently of Automobili Lamborghini," said Pietro Frigerio, chief operating officer of Lamborghini America.



"Many companies have felt an impact by the current economic situation, but the economy is not the reason for Lamborghini Orange County's financial situation. Though, the economy has exacerbated the situation."



In an interview this spring, when other auto dealers were suffering from the economic downturn, Keuylian said he continued to prosper.



"This April was better than April '07,? Keuylian told the Register. ?Other dealers are turning down cars and we?re picking them up and selling them at a profit.?



A spokeswoman for Volkswagen, which owns Lamborghini, would not answer a question about whether the company had pulled the line of credit Keuylian needed to keep cars on his showroom floor.



"While we don't comment about our business relationships with our dealerships, Volkswagen's credit business continues to remain strong," said Jill Bratina, a spokeswoman for Volkswagen Group of America.



At least nine Orange County auto dealers ? selling Chevrolets, Chryslers, Dodges, Nissans, Saturns and other brands ? have closed since January, brought down by sluggish sales and tight credit.



But Lamborghini Orange County is the most glamorous of the bunch. Customers included NBA stars Kobe Bryant and Dennis Rodman. The Keuylians threw promotional parties with celebrities such as Elton John and Sharon Stone. They helicoptered actors Eric Roberts and Luke Perry from Los Angeles to Orange County for a company party in April.



The Orange County dealership at 2441 S. Pullman St. in Santa Ana is now padlocked. The lot previously brimming with orange and lime 12-cylinder, $600,000 Murcielagos and Gallardos customized by designer Versace ? is vacant.



No sign explains the closure or tells customers where to go for repairs or how to pick up cars on order.



The answering machine on a phone at Lamborghini Calabasas, also owned by Keuylian, said it was not accepting messages. A recently opened Lamborghini showroom on West Coast Highway in Newport Beach also has closed. And Keuylian's plans for a lavish new showroom there never materialized.









Same for Lambo Calabasas:





Lamborghini Dealership Empty, New Owners on the Way

By Nadra Kareem - 12/8/2008

San Fernando Valley Business Journal Staff



A year ago Lamborghini Calabasas opened to much fanfare. The cast of the hit television show ?Heroes,? famed model Fabio and the Dixie Chicks? Natalie Maines, among many more, were on hand to witness the launch of the luxury car dealership.



Upon its grand opening, the 4,000-sq. foot-dealership in the 23800 block of Ventura Boulevard, just off the Parkway Calabasas exit on Interstate 101, had already sold 15 of the 80 cars in its fleet. Today, the dealership is empty.



Michael Haas, account director of Luxe Communications, the Beverly Hills-based public relations firm that represented the dealership, said that Lamborghini Calabasas isn?t closed for good but in the process of switching ownership. According to Haas, previous owner Vik Keuylian was suffering from financial troubles that resulted in him closing the dealership.



Keuylian, who said that he had more than 25 years of Lamborghini sales experience when the Calabasas dealership opened, also owned and ran Lamborghini Orange County with his three sisters, Astrid, Nora and Sossi. Two years ago, Lamborghini decided that Calabasas would be the site of a new dealership after conducting market studies on the city as well as nearby Agoura Hills and Westlake Village. In the end, Calabasas was considered to be the most attractive option because of the number of people moving into the community and the prosperity of the residents there, Lamborghini officials said. Additionally, Calabasas is home to other luxury automobile brands such as Mercedes-Benz, BMW and MINI dealerships.



Haas said that any day now Lamborghini is expected to announce who will take over the now vacant dealership. However, after having an initial conversation with the Business Journal about Lamborghini Calabasas, Haas did not return numerous messages left by the Business Journal for further information about the switch in ownership at the dealership.



Keuylian?s Lamborghini dealership in Orange County has also closed.



At one time, Keuylian had reportedly claimed responsibility for selling 10 percent of the 2,400 Lamborghinis unleashed worldwide annually. In April, Keuylian revealed no sign that his dealerships were in distress. Then, he told the Orange County Register, ?This April was better than April ?07. Other dealers are turning down cars and we?re picking them up and selling them at a profit.?



[quote author="tenmagnet" date=1229475979]Not only Detroit that?s hurting.

High end as well.

The Lambo dealership at the Palazzo is in trouble.</blockquote>
 
[quote author="morekaos" date=1229477301][quote author="tenmagnet" date=1229475979]Not only Detroit that?s hurting.

High end as well.

The Lambo dealership at the Palazzo is in trouble.</blockquote>


This one Ten?



<a href="http://www.ocbj.com/industry_article.asp?aID=18148615.1323008.1704781.49317502.7996927.434&aID2=131128">OC Lambourghini closing</a></blockquote>


Great article, thanks for the link.

The one at the Palazzo is in Vegas.

Opened to compete with Ferrari at the Wynn.
 
[quote author="NoThereThere" date=1229478001]Lambo OC closed in November. I'm handling some litigation on that front. Ten, maybe you can pick yourself up something at the fire sale.





"I can't talk about anything," said Vik Keuylian, owner of the Santa Ana-based dealership.



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[quote author="tenmagnet" date=1229475979]Not only Detroit that?s hurting.

High end as well.

The Lambo dealership at the Palazzo is in trouble.</blockquote></blockquote>


Looks like Vik burned a whole bunch of people locally when

he closed up shop.



I am going to bet he is no longer in the Country.

My guess would be Armenia someplace.



The Lambo dealer at the Palazzo

<a href="http://www.lamborghinilasvegas.com/">http://www.lamborghinilasvegas.com/</a>





The high end is getting slaughtered. A good friend just picked up a used

Ferrari F430 for way less that I could have ever dreamed of.

The prices at the high end car auctions are off 20-30%. Cash is king
 
[quote author="NoThereThere" date=1229478001]Lambo OC closed in November. I'm handling some litigation on that front. Ten, maybe you can pick yourself up something at the fire sale.

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Very funny!

We?ll see.

I am a trophy seeker.

Too bad your not a tax attorney, we could do business.

Excellent post
 
BLT,

yes, cash is king. But good luck getting people to work on them OR finding certified parts. I do, however, know of people who will work on them on the side and are certified mechanics.



Good luck

-bix
 
[quote author="tenmagnet" date=1229479584][quote author="NoThereThere" date=1229478001]Lambo OC closed in November. I'm handling some litigation on that front. Ten, maybe you can pick yourself up something at the fire sale.

</blockquote>




Very funny!

We?ll see.

I am a trophy seeker.

Too bad your not a tax attorney, we could do business.

Excellent post</blockquote>


Well, I meant trophy CARS, to be exact, not trophy tens.... :)



We do some tax stuff here, but on the business planning and advice side, not the "fight with Uncle Sam" side. IRS coming to getcha? I may be able to recommend somebody.
 
Coming to the Irvine Great Park - a big ass parking lot for new cars they can't otherwise sell.



<a href="http://www.ocregister.com/articles/park-great-companies-2258369-auto-staff">http://www.ocregister.com/articles/park-great-companies-2258369-auto-staff</a>
 
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