9.25% Sales Tax in O.C.

[quote author="babyseal" date=1226030194]Did anyone read about this?



http://ocbiz.freedomblogging.com/2008/11/06/schwarzenegger-wants-925-sales-tax-in-oc/4502/</blockquote>


Nice... Consumer spending is way down and everything is going to get more expensive.
 
[quote author="ipoplaya" date=1226032392][quote author="babyseal" date=1226030194]Did anyone read about this?



http://ocbiz.freedomblogging.com/2008/11/06/schwarzenegger-wants-925-sales-tax-in-oc/4502/</blockquote>


Nice... Consumer spending is way down and everything is going to get more expensive.</blockquote>


Nah man. Our govt will print 25 trillion dollars next year and send us all 80K checks. We are going to be rich.
 
Here's a great way to encourage spending, at least out of California spending over the internet. I realize that something has to be done, but this percentage increase is a bit too much. It would put LA at 10.25%. Why would I buy anything in California?
 
The governor is an idiot. At a time when he should be doing something to increase spending, he's killing it. Jerk.



It's time to move away from California before we're all broke.
 
[quote author="Anon." date=1226037205]The governor is an idiot. At a time when he should be doing something to increase spending, he's killing it. Jerk.



It's time to move away from California before we're all broke.</blockquote>


ahem... whosayswearen't???? (*did i say that out loud?*)



-bix
 
It's not like he couldn't start to fill the hole by following the law and restoring the Vehicle License Fee ..............



<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger</a>



<img src="http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/images/gray_davis_puppet.jpg" alt="" />



Eat sh*t Arnold. Where's my audit you promised when you recalled Gray? Where's my piles and piles of government waste?



They have to raise taxes somewhere, or reduce the size of goverment which means prisons (releasing inmates) or cutting off the old and indgent who get MediCAL. There are no other options. The cut-taxes-and-increase-spending train has ran to the end of the dirt road.
 
you forgot, he could cut schools too. they are half of the budget.



sure, laying off lots of teachers isn't popular, and will increase the ranks of the unemployed.



of course, i'm sure you can find lots of 'waste and abuse' in the typical schools budget. just cut that.
 
[quote author="freedomCM" date=1226047536]you forgot, he could cut schools too. they are half of the budget.



sure, laying off lots of teachers isn't popular, and will increase the ranks of the unemployed.



of course, i'm sure you can find lots of 'waste and abuse' in the typical schools budget. just cut that.</blockquote>


LOL. Waste and abuse... They have so little money for supplies in the budget, if any at all, that teachers foot the bill. We probably spend $100 a month supporting my wife's classroom and my company supplies paper, pens, tape, etc. as well.
 
Pardon all inmates found guilty of marijuana possession. That ought to save a few bucks.



No Vas - Part of his plan is to reinstate the vehicle license fees.
 
[quote author="freedomCM" date=1226047536]you forgot, he could cut schools too. they are half of the budget.



sure, laying off lots of teachers isn't popular, and will increase the ranks of the unemployed.



of course, i'm sure you can find lots of 'waste and abuse' in the typical schools budget. just cut that.</blockquote>


No, he can't. Schools are 'locked in' via (guess who)?



The have-it-both-ways voting public and 1988's Prop 98.



<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_98_(1988)">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_98_(1988)</a>



I haven't read the article yet, but I find it more than a little amusing the biggest excuse for kicking out Gray Davis is now on the table.........



[quote author="skek" date=1226048254]IUSD may be a well run district with little fat to trim (or not, I don't know), but LAUSD is a swamp.



Here's an <a href="http://cbs2.com/goldstein/LAUSD.Credit.Cards.2.536288.html">expense or two</a> you could cut.



Did LAUSD need to <a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2093685/posts">swell the ranks of administration by 20% since 2001</a>? If not, you could eliminate some of the 3,478 administrators who earn more than $100,000 per year.



In fact, LAUSD has over 77,000 employees, making it the second largest employer in Los Angeles County. The district phone book is 39 pages long. And that doesn't include the schools.</blockquote>


LAUSD is too big to fail. Literally. You can't chop it up because the Valley subsidises South Central and Lancaster. This is a systematic problem that is literally unsolvable. Am I saying there is no waste there? Absolutely not. It is effectively untouchable and a waste of energy to discuss. Ask Roy Romer. He tried like hell and failed miserablly - not from a lack of effort on his part, and IMO not from a lack of cooperation on the LAUSD's staff.



<a href="http://roysblog.edin08.com/">http://roysblog.edin08.com/</a>



When we enacted Prop 13, we effectively took local control away from schools and handed it off to Sacramento. They pay the bills, they call the shots.
 
[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1226043984]It's not like he couldn't start to fill the hole by following the law and restoring the Vehicle License Fee ..............



<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger</a>



<img src="http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/images/gray_davis_puppet.jpg" alt="" />



Eat sh*t Arnold. Where's my audit you promised when you recalled Gray? Where's my piles and piles of government waste?



They have to raise taxes somewhere, or reduce the size of goverment which means prisons (releasing inmates) or cutting off the old and indgent who get MediCAL. There are no other options. The cut-taxes-and-increase-spending train has ran to the end of the dirt road.</blockquote>


I think Eva REALLY liked that post.
 
[quote author="skek" date=1226050431]California is broke. We need to tear it up and start over. Everything should be on the table.



Sadly, we need a charismatic bipartisan leader to steward the revolution -- someone who commands a firm mandate from the people, someone who can scare the crap out of the career politicians in Sacramento. Anyone see any contenders? I don't.



The fact that every single bond measure on the ballot wasn't beaten by 40% (and that a couple actually passed) is an indicator to me that Californians don't yet realize how badly we've mismanaged the state.</blockquote>


As you know, I am a relative new-comer here. But what about Tom McClintock? I've never seen him speak, but I have read enough to be a big fan of the man.
 
[quote author="skek" date=1226051456]I really like Tom McClintock, too. But he has tried on several occasions to get elected to statewide office and has failed each time. (He earned my vote for Governor during the recall election and certainly would have done a better job that Arnold.) I'm a realist and I don't think he's viable in California after so many losses.



Any word on his Congressional race? He was ahead of Charlie Brown by about 400 votes last I heard, recount ordered. I hope he wins. He'd be a great addition to Congress. Even those who disagree with his policies should appreciate the intellectual rigor he brings to his work. From what I've heard, he's also a very honorable man.</blockquote>


I wasn't here during the recall. But if I had been, I would have voted for McClintock as well. I don't have any new news on the race. But like you, I hope he wins.



As for Schwarzenegger, he has a compelling personal story, and I like his movies. But that's about all I can say good about him.



You do realize that he is part of a genetic engineering experiment don't you? The only reason he married Maria Shriver is because the liberals are trying to create a breed of bulletproof Kennedys...
 
[quote author="freedomCM" date=1226047536]you forgot, he could cut schools too. they are half of the budget.



sure, laying off lots of teachers isn't popular, and will increase the ranks of the unemployed.



of course, i'm sure you can find lots of 'waste and abuse' in the typical schools budget. just cut that.</blockquote>


They are cutting the schools. My husband works with school districts and he's really worried about them and this is a guy who says I'm the liberal in the house. One thing that many people don't realize is how much it costs to educate the special needs kids. The typical kid costs 6K-10K per year to educate, the special needs kids are often $60K and can be as high as $100K. The law states that every child is entitled to an education and the district has to provide it. In the poorer districts there are an even higher percentage of these special needs kids.



If they do their paperwork right, the Federal gov't covers half, but that's still a lot for the districts to pick up. If they don't do the paperwork, or do it right, then it's 100% their cost.
 
[quote author="awgee" date=1226047780]Pardon all inmates found guilty of marijuana possession. That ought to save a few bucks.



No Vas - Part of his plan is to reinstate the vehicle license fees.</blockquote>


But that was such a large part of his justification for becoming governor. I bought a new car in Dec of last year and couldn't believe how low my registration was. I just got the renewal and it's piddley compared to what it was in the earlier 90's (the last time I bought a new car)
 
[quote author="skek" date=1226050431]California is broke. We need to tear it up and start over. Everything should be on the table.



Sadly, we need a charismatic bipartisan leader to steward the revolution -- someone who commands a firm mandate from the people, someone who can scare the crap out of the career politicians in Sacramento. Anyone see any contenders? I don't.



The fact that every single bond measure on the ballot wasn't beaten by 40% (and that a couple actually passed) is an indicator to me that Californians don't yet realize how badly we've mismanaged the state.</blockquote>
You could start with scrapping that ridiculous process for allowing a direct connection between the voter and the law known as the ballot initiative. Despite popular opinion, this country was set up as a federal republic to avoid the exact kind of short-sighted stupidity embodied in Props 13, 98, and now 8.



<span style="font-size: 11px;">Edited to appease the numbers nazi</span>
 
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