500 Things to Say

To my friends in the IHB Community:



Well, to blatantly steal an idea from our beloved Trooper, I would like to briefly take a time out (after 499 previous posts) to reflect since zovall and I started IHB way back a thousand years ago. Well, okay, since zovall posted a question on ocfliptrack.com asking if anybody was interested in helping write for a new blog he was creating, focused on the city of Irvine, and I offered to take a stab at it. I know nothing about the real estate industry - my career has been in drug and medical device manufacturing firms. However, starting in 2004 when I moved from Fullerton to Tustin Ranch, I developed a growing fascination with the housing bubble. We sold our house in Fullerton and bought in Tustin Ranch, and the interactions with our mortgage broker infuriated me. He pressured me (I was the financial decision-maker in the family, not my then-husband) intensely to "buy more house" because he could get me into one worth twice what we ended up buying, given our household income. He also pressured me hard to take on a toxic mortgage with a ridiculously low teaser rate (I think it was like 1.9%, but can't recall for what time period. Probably 6 months).



So we bought the "cheap" house in Tustin Ranch in 2004 for $730,000 against the advice of our broker. A year and a half later I asked my husband for a divorce (and THAT's a story only told over a couple of good martinis!) and we put the house on the market. That was December, 2005. We had spent about $50 grand putting in a new kitchen, new flooring, landscaping, etc. I was getting really nervous by that time - how much longer could these insane prices hold up? I was panicking to move forward with letting the husband know I was leaving him, and getting that house on the MLS, before it all fell apart. So we listed with the local "area expert" for a 1% fee, I cleaned out all our personal effects, and every morning, with a 2 year old in tow, I wiped down every surface to get rid of toddler fingerprints, and I vacuumed the whole damn place, all 2000 square feet, with my son on my left hip (my left biceps were hard as a rock that year). I left that house each morning with it looking like a model home. Then I drove my toddler to daycare and went to work. Can I just tell you, my house looked like a model and I looked like the inside of a garbage can - all sweaty and disheveled from that insanity every morning. Several visiting realtors left comments about how amazingly clean our house was, which was nice. And it sold, in 13 days, for $865,000. Thank god, because I could not possibly have kept up that insanity for much longer. We actually did receive two offers on Day 12 - I saw them with my own eyes. So our realtor let each potential buyer know there was another offer. One took a pass, and one bumped their offer up from $860 to $865. Sold!



At about that time, I discovered <a href="http://www.thehousingbubbleblog.com">Ben's blog</a> and ocfliptrack. And some others...AnotherF$%$'dBorrower, and <a href="http://www.piggington.com">Piggington</a>. I already had the gut feeling that I had gotten out just in the nick of time, and these blogs helped put facts and data behind my instincts. I began to read them all, and while I can never hope to be able to explain how The Great Housing Bubble developed as articulately as IR and others (especially <a href="http://www.calculatedriskblog.com">Tanta</a>, what a genius and what a tragedy!), I have definitely done my share of talking about this fiasco to everyone I know. And I think I might have had an impact! There are at least half a dozen people I work with who are watching my actions closely - that they have told me they won't buy a house until I do so they know it's safe!



I have been renting from IAC ever since. I have to admit I have had some trouble keeping my spending in check and have tapped into my nest egg on more than one occasion. I am not nearly as disciplined as many of you are - I cannot live a scrupulously frugal life. It is just me and my little boy, mostly - we have trouble making friends and I am estranged from my mother and sister. My dad lives in San Diego and I don't get to see him and my stepmom nearly as often as I'd like. So to fill the void, we do a lot of traveling. I take him on mini-vacations all the time to places like Palm Springs and Las Vegas, and last summer I took myself to Utah for a week of hiking bliss at a gorgeous resort. We also both like toys - he the train/truck/videogame kind, and me the laptop/camera/iphone kind. So we live very comfortably and I have to say that there is something to be said for that. It is a trade-off; I could have a fatter nest egg right now, but I have done what I felt I needed to do to slog through an otherwise unspeakably lonely time in my life.



It has been a lot of fun being part of the IHB community. It has been especially fun for me knowing that, through pure good luck I managed to be one of the founders even though compared to the others (zovall, ocfliptrack/effenheimer, evalseraphim, graphrix, and of course IR, just to name a few) I am a very weak contributor indeed! I have to admit, I do miss the good old days of our original blog software, when the Forums were unorganized and new postings just kept piling on every time you stepped away from the computer. I am sure it's just perception and not accurate, but it feels like our participation radically changed from that point. For example, I think LawyerLiz just couldn't handle the change! Having gone to college in Miami, I always enjoyed hearing her Florida perspective.



Cheers to IHB for providing me with ongoing entertainment, education, and companionship over these years. Thank you all!
 
ISM



It sounds like you are travelling down a good road. Life is short so enjoy it along with your kid. Memories are way more important than things.



Time goes faster than you think. I used to have a quote on my mirror that I saw first thing each day that goes like this:



"What you accomplish today you will trade a day of your life for. Make it worthwile."



Have a fantastic day!
 
This was awesome... being a fairly new member... it was great to read your IHB history.



And as for being frugal... meh... there's always time for that... your son will appreciate the fact that he was well taken care of from birth to manhood. My parents tell us we spoil our kids... not realizing they kind of spoiled us too. Children deserve as much as we can give them... just as long as they understand responsibility and all the other good lessons in life.



I think it should be a requirement for every veteran IHB'er to have some type of blurb like this about them to give us newbs some context... I'm waiting for The History of No_Vas.
 
ISM, I'm surprised to see you didn't mention anything about how you are waiting on Orchard Hills. Is that still your #1 place to purchase when you decide to purchase?
 
24 - yup, I'm still holding out for OH. Feels kinda silly to do so sometimes, since it's been pushed out so far in the future that it seems more like Fantasyland! If other areas get built first (can anyone say "OC Great Park"? I might be tempted to defect as well. If they really do create a lake in the Great Park/Fiasco, then living in housing with a water view would be a big plus. Let me add a caveat: non-Brady Bunch Irvine housing on a lake! (Sorry, Woodbridge!).
 
Hey ISM.....the "1000 things to say", etc. was actually Graph's brainstorm. Gotta give props where they're due.



Congrats on 500!
 
If only you would have listened to that hard-selling broker ISM and bought a million dollar place... Could have sold it for $1.125 and made an extra $25K in profit!



:)
 
I think the new forums format is only a small, and I mean very small reason why some of us are posting less. For many of us, including me, it is the redundancy of questions asked. It is also the fact that as much of what we have said has now come to fruition, and we don't need to say more or say as much. Many of us could dig up posts and rub it in the faces of people who no longer post, or do that with people who continue to post but have converted, but we really do have more respect than that. As much as the bulls tried to make us out to be the evil ones for what we said and continue to say, we have been, and will always be the bigger person to not stoop to their level.



The other reason, many of us who created online friendships here, have made those online friendships a reality. I never once thought for a second that I would meet any of these housing nutters, but I have. I am lucky, I happened to meet someone special, and now I have a great relationship, that I would never, ever expect to have found on teh intarwebs, let alone IHB. I mean, back in the day, anyone who was here was considered f'ing nuts, and I was the chief nutter. Not only that, but I consider IR, Zovall, Prof, Cayci, EvaL, Troop, Eff, Awgee, Deuce, Ipoplaya, BV, Acpme, Skekster, Vicstah, BK, you, and many... many others my friends. I also have created some business relationships here, and many of those relationships cross over to the friend side as well. So, if I forgot to mention anyone, just know that the list is long and I would have included you if the list wouldn't be huge. This is a great online community, and there are some very intelligent and very awesome people here.



I have always looked forward to your posts, and anytime I see an ISM post, I am sure to read it. While you think you contributions may be weak in quantity, your contributions have been great in quality. Just let me make up for it in the quantity dept. and it is all good. You have always been a wonderful contributor, even going back to the days of your comments on oc_fliptrack. Yes, I remember the comments between you and Z that created IHB. Now look what you have done, you have created a monster, and you had no idea what an a$$ I could truly be until you created the forums and let me say whatever I wanted. There might be more posters here if I had not scared them away.
 
[quote author="Trooper" date=1232906296]So, in a roundabout way....ISM and Zovall can take credit for the Graph/Cayci phenomenon!</blockquote>


They can totally take credit if they like.



Thanks, guys!
 
[quote author="caycifish" date=1232947132][quote author="Trooper" date=1232906296]So, in a roundabout way....ISM and Zovall can take credit for the Graph/Cayci phenomenon!</blockquote>


They can totally take credit if they like.



Thanks, guys!</blockquote>


lol.. I think that perhaps some things were just meant to be ;)
 
Back in 1989, I was the SYSOP (system operator) of a local 10-line dial-up BBS. It was very different from the internet, where most of the people were local to the Lakewood area. I made many friends from Downey to Long Beach and we'd all go to Seal Beach on weekends for dinner and movie.



Then the WWW came and the local BBS died. This forum, in its own way, is like a reincarnation of the local BBS where local people meet and chat about local things. Real estate is our SIG (special interest group) and WWIV/PC-Board/WildCat/etc. is replaced with on-line forum. ASCII art is replaced with real pictures.



I recall the first time when I dialed into a Waffle BBS to access Usenet. In my wildest dreams, I couldn't have foreseen the coming of WWW and death of local BBS scene. After the BBS died, I didn't think we'd have anything "local" to replace Usenet or ytalk or IRC. This has been quite an interesting ride over the past decade!



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ha ha



althought I don't think Graph is quite the artist.



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Wow. Blast from the past, Momo. I haven't seen some of those terms in over 15 years. Back when a 4000 mile phone call home cost 32 cents a minute and income was zero, ytalk was a good friend.
 
IR mom,



Thank you for sharing your story. It takes courage to ask for a divorce, no matters who is right or wrong. Many of us women would be too afraid to walk away from comfort zones, no matter if that comfort zones is not good for you. Being a single mom is hard, no matters how old the child is.



As parents, we always doubt ourselves when we raise kids. Of course a few mistakes happen along the way...but knowing we did the best we can in any situation is all we can ask for.



Thank you for sharing your thought.
 
[quote author="biscuitninja" date=1232967653]ha ha



althought I don't think Graph is quite the artist.</blockquote>


Heh, it depends on your tastes, but you might be surprised to find I am more artistic than you think. The graph part of my name came way before I ever cared about chartpr0n. One day I hope to be able to have the means to pursue that path and that it won't matter if I, or anyone, else gives a crap whether it is good or not.
 
[quote author="graphrix" date=1232986227][quote author="biscuitninja" date=1232967653]ha ha



althought I don't think Graph is quite the artist.</blockquote>


Heh, it depends on your tastes, but you might be surprised to find I am more artistic than you think. The graph part of my name came way before I ever cared about chartpr0n. One day I hope to be able to have the means to pursue that path and that it won't matter if I, or anyone, else gives a crap whether it is good or not.</blockquote>


It just depends, I have a second major in Art, I did very well in sculpture, but in the end i had nowhere near the talent that some of those guys do. I really wish I did though.



But really, tell the truth, she likes to play with your clay.... :lol:



-bix
 
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