2000 rollbacks

caycifish_IHB

caycifish_IHB

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Holy ****! Time for a new thread.



Check out this short sale attempt! If it sells, 61% off peak price.



4436 E Palm Ave

Orange, CA 92869



<strong>Price: $247,426 </strong>



Beds: 4

Baths: 3

Sq. Ft.: 1,848

$/Sq. Ft.: $134

Lot Size: 6,700 Sq. Ft.



Oct 24, 2008 Listed $247,426 -- SoCalMLS #P662055

Apr 05, 2005 Sold $640,000 32.0%/yr Public Records

Mar 09, 2004 Sold $475,000 >1,000%/yr Public Records

Oct 03, 2002 Sold $8,000 -84.8%/yr Public Records

<strong>Dec 01, 2000 Sold $255,000 -- Public Records </strong>



http://i-0.rfimg.us/photo/46/bigphoto/055/P662055_0.jpg



<a href="http://www.redfin.com/CA/Orange/4436-E-Palm-Ave-92869/home/3415548">http://www.redfin.com/CA/Orange/4436-E-Palm-Ave-92869/home/3415548</a>
 
I've posted about the worst part of Orange before. This home is in the second worst part of Orange. It is close to rental parity. So long as you know that whoever rents this will bring in several other occupants (likely multiple families).
 
Are you saying the relitter is lying?

<blockquote>

Excellent Location Home in the End Cul-De-Sac Street, Close to Orange Hills, Orange Park Acres and Villa Park. </blockquote>




BTW, how did that get to be a bad area? Is it really bad (high crime) or just high density latino? There are parts of CM that are high density, without the crime, it seems to me. Like where Stepping-up is. and much of west-side CM, actually. But parts of SA really do have the crime to go along with the white Irvine-ites stereotypes.
 
[quote author="freedomCM" date=1226649313]Are you saying the relitter is lying?

<blockquote>

Excellent Location Home in the End Cul-De-Sac Street, Close to Orange Hills, Orange Park Acres and Villa Park. </blockquote>




BTW, how did that get to be a bad area? Is it really bad (high crime) or just high density latino? There are parts of CM that are high density, without the crime, it seems to me. Like where Stepping-up is. and much of west-side CM, actually. But parts of SA really do have the crime to go along with the white Irvine-ites stereotypes.</blockquote>


Not like the westside of CM at all. Zoom out of the map and head south down Hewes, and make a right or a left on Pearl. I dare you... I double dog dare you to do this at night and on foot. Personally, I wouldn't drive down that street during the day. It is high density Latino, and extremely high crime. Of course if you want to buy a gun without the serial number or a QP of meth, then you are in right neighborhood.



I actually witnessed a drop off on Hewes just past Chapman. Or maybe it was a pick. F'ing idiot in a Ferrari, pulls over to curb, guy comes out of the house, exchanges business, Ferrari takes off. It's amazing that he pulled it off. The OPD patrols that neighborhood like Troop patrols 5th and Wall. I know, because I have been pulled over twice in that hood in the last two years. Even though my bimmer is old, it/I (crackercakes) don't belong there.
 
[quote author="freedomCM" date=1226649313]Are you saying the relitter is lying?

<blockquote>

Excellent Location Home in the End Cul-De-Sac Street, Close to Orange Hills, Orange Park Acres and Villa Park. </blockquote></blockquote>


No, but the statement neglects a few facts. Pretty much what Graph says.



Getting pulled over in Orange is no mean feat, unless you're in the wrong sort of area at the wrong time or you don't fit. Driving in the area of the Salty Dog after 10pm, driving anywhere on Oak street after dark, and driving near this neighborhood if you aren't latino will certainly get you popped. For no reason.
 
So how did it happen to become so crime-ridden?



It is like the bad parts of SA?



Has it always been latino from farmworker days?
 
[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1226652527][quote author="freedomCM" date=1226649313]Are you saying the relitter is lying?

<blockquote>

Excellent Location Home in the End Cul-De-Sac Street, Close to Orange Hills, Orange Park Acres and Villa Park. </blockquote></blockquote>


No, but the statement neglects a few facts. Pretty much what Graph says.



Getting pulled over in Orange is no mean feat, unless you're in the wrong sort of area at the wrong time or you don't fit. Driving in the area of the Salty Dog after 10pm, driving anywhere on Oak street after dark, and driving near this neighborhood if you aren't latino will certainly get you popped. For no reason.</blockquote>


I love the street name Oak.... it's so hard to imagine an Oak St being a s*** neighborhood. I always picture these charming older homes on a wide tree lined street.
 
[quote author="freedomCM" date=1226656070]So how did it happen to become so crime-ridden?



It is like the bad parts of SA?



Has it always been latino from farmworker days?</blockquote>


It's not as bad as the areas in SanTan around Harbor and 5th, but it's certainly approacing there. Kind of like the 'rougher' areas of Costa Mesa.



So far as I know, it's always been latino from the farmworker days. It's a neighborhood filled with "those people" who do that dirty-dirty work of society. And since nobody really wants "those people" in thier neighborhood, they wind up in a place like here, where you have a lot of new Mexican immigrants, highly transitive, and a few old timers. The biggest change is nobody picks and packs citrus, now they mow your lawn, fix your car, and cook your meals.



My cites here are pretty thin. It seems nobody puts a ton of time into researching/documentation of a unknown low end working class neighborhood. This place is across Chapman, but same sort of deal.



<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Modena,_California">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Modena,_California</a>



Some local day-labor flavor:



<object width="325" height="250"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/youtube" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="325" height="250"></embed></object>



Oak Street is all multiplexes. I used to jog through it at 6am but it's too easy to get ran over by somebody going to work who isn't looking for my donkey ass at 6am.
 
So which parts of this map are now questionable areas?



The area north of chapman called 'el modena' and the area south near the train station?



<img src="http://scph001.home.netcom.com/tustin_map_aaa_52.jpg" alt="" />
 
The undesirables lived "over there" for 40 years ? alone - until the new development surrounded "over there". The overt racism of 50 years ago has abated, but the neighborhood (full of poor immigrants who do menial jobs second and third generation Americans won't do) remains.



If you drew a 1/2 mile radius circle around the corner of Chapman and Meats, you can call that area 'suspect'. I realize that I'm clipping off parts of Orange Park Acres, Villa Park, North Tustin and a bunch of other nice neighborhoods that don't deserve the geographic snare of my thumbnail guide, but like everything else, it depends.



Orange is a lovely city and I enjoy it very much, but the neighborhoods change radically in very small movements - block by block sometimes. Look at that group of multiplex rentals over south of Collins across the street from Villa Park. The SFR's stuck around them are some of the least desirable stock in the city, yet across the street (literally) homes sell for 50% more.
 
[quote author="freedomCM" date=1226656070]So how did it happen to become so crime-ridden?



It is like the bad parts of SA?



Has it always been latino from farmworker days?</blockquote>


There is a thread about this in the "Architecture . . . " section. I need to revise and extend my remarks there, but in a nutshell, some of these have never been "good" neighborhoods, others were affected by the racial covenants that used to be in place, and still others were affected by misguided attempts "urban renewal" or libertarian zoning that allowed apartment complexes to be dropped in the middle of SFR neighborhoods willy nilly.



Where did you find that map? That's really cool.
 
Ghetto, meet 2000. 2000, meet Ghetto.



405 S East St

Anaheim, CA 92805



<strong>Price: $193,930</strong> 65% off!



Beds: 3

Baths: 2

Sq. Ft.: 1,143

$/Sq. Ft.: $170

Lot Size: 3,792 Sq. Ft.



Property History for 405 S East St



Feb 17, 2009 Price Changed $193,930 -- SoCalMLS #P645671

Jan 06, 2009 Price Changed $207,425 -- SoCalMLS #P645671

Dec 04, 2008 Price Changed $220,920 -- SoCalMLS #P645671

Oct 30, 2008 Price Changed $236,404 -- SoCalMLS #P645671

Sep 24, 2008 Price Changed $248,584 -- SoCalMLS #P645671

Aug 21, 2008 Price Changed $261,405 -- SoCalMLS #P645671

Jul 15, 2008 Price Changed $274,900 -- SoCalMLS #P645671

Jul 07, 2008 Listed $289,900 -- SoCalMLS #P645671

Mar 21, 2008 Sold $307,500 -21.2%/yr Public Records

:ahhh: <strong>Sep 14, 2005 Sold $560,000 42.5%/yr Public Records </strong> :ahhh: WTF?

Jun 05, 2003 Sold $250,000 >1,000%/yr Public Records

Mar 21, 2003 Sold $5,000 -99.3%/yr Public Records

Jun 21, 2002 Sold $210,000 8.5%/yr Public Records

Oct 05, 1998 Sold $155,000 386.5%/yr Public Records

May 22, 1998 Sold $86,000 -34.0%/yr Public Records

Feb 19, 1997 Sold $144,561 19.5%/yr Public Records

May 04, 1995 Sold $105,000 495.8%/yr Public Records

Nov 01, 1994 Sold $42,736 82.4%/yr Public Records

Oct 15, 1992 Sold $12,500 -- Public Records



<a href="http://www.redfin.com/CA/Anaheim/405-S-East-St-92805/home/3216832">http://www.redfin.com/CA/Anaheim/405-S-East-St-92805/home/3216832</a>



http://i-0.rfimg.us/photo/46/bigphoto/671/P645671_0.jpg
 
<a href="http://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angeles/959-S-Longwood-Ave-90019/home/6912427">http://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angeles/959-S-Longwood-Ave-90019/home/6912427</a>
 
[quote author="ABC123" date=1235634131]<a href="http://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angeles/959-S-Longwood-Ave-90019/home/6912427">http://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angeles/959-S-Longwood-Ave-90019/home/6912427</a></blockquote>


Okay, I don't get it. It's listed for $1M more than its 2000 price.
 
[quote author="BlackVault CM" date=1235629676]That property will see 130K at one point. I'll bet a lunch or coffee for it.</blockquote>


I'd bet coffee and a scone it, or the equivalent foreclosures, see sub $100K.
 
<strong>90% off on the edge of NPB



or maybe the used house salesman is that stupid...</strong>





Listing Agent

Ryan Call

RYAN L. CALL





http://www.redfin.com/CA/Costa-Mesa/1631-Irvine-Ave-92627/unit-C/home/5238496



<img src="http://i-0.rfimg.us/photo/45/bigphoto/292/T09026292_0.jpg" alt="" />



<blockquote> Mar 04, 2009 Listed $59,900 -- MRMLS #T09026292

Nov 14, 2008 Off Redfin * -- Inactive SoCalMLS #2

Nov 12, 2008 Price Changed * -- Inactive SoCalMLS #2

Sep 23, 2008 Price Changed * -- Inactive SoCalMLS #2

Sep 02, 2008 Relisted * -- Inactive SoCalMLS #2

May 05, 2008 Price Changed * -- Inactive SoCalMLS #2

Apr 23, 2008 Listed * -- Inactive SoCalMLS #2

Oct 02, 2007 Listed * -- Inactive SoCalMLS #1

Oct 05, 2005 Sold $600,000 15.3%/yr Public Records

Mar 20, 1998 Sold $205,000 -2.2%/yr Public Records

Aug 15, 1991 Sold $237,500 -- Public Records</blockquote>


1631 Irvine Ave Unit C Costa Mesa, CA 92627

Price: $59,900

Beds: 3

Baths: 2.5

Sq. Ft.: 1,400

$/Sq. Ft.: $43

Lot Size: -

Property Type: Attached, Townhouse

Year Built: 1979

Stories: 2

Area: East Costa Mesa

County: Orange

MLS#: T09026292

Source: MRMLS

Status: Active

On Redfin: 1 day

New Listing (24 hours)

Prestigious Newport Heights Beautiful 3-bedroom, 2.5-bath Townhome Completely and elegantly remodeled: new bathrooms, wood flooring throughout, granite countertops, designer fixtures and lighting, elegant baseboards. Cathedral ceilings in master bedroom, living room, and dining room. Enclosed private patio. Fireplace. Two upstairs balconies. Two-car garage has inside access to home. Lots of storage and cabinet space. Walking distance to award-winning Newport Beach schools (Newport Heights Elementary, Newport Ensign Middle School, Newport Harbor High School), shopping, parks, and playgrounds. Nearby Back-Bay bike/hiking trails, beaches, and recreation.
 
Okay, FreedomCM, all I have to say about that listing is WTF? I'd buy it right now if 60K was really the price. I just don't believe it. Is this an attempt to get a bidding war going? If so, is this the new strategy we can look forward to seeing in the future?
 
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