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Boycott United Airlines. Interesting how when a normal American is victimized in this manner, the media and our politicians are virtually silent but if some redneck didn't want to sit next to Muslims on a plane, it would be all over the news and Obama would call a joint press conference with CAIR.
 
That's fucking bullshit. I would have said I saw some c4 taped to their abdomen to get them kicked off the plane. Religious freedoms are fine as long as they don't degrade people. Those motherfuckers need to go back to Pakistan. I'm with the Jizz.
 
seems to me that if the two men had beliefs that prevented them from sitting next to females they should pay for an extra ticket to prevent an "undesirable" from sitting next to them or pay to fly private jet or drive to their destination. That's ridiculous the woman was forced out of her prebooked seat when it should have been them asking to switch to a different row if available.
 
An ambulance chaser should contact that woman. Seems to me she was being discriminated against just because she was a woman.

Would they be ok with a woman dressed as a man or a man dressed as a woman?

I'll just bet the flight attendants wouldn't have moved a transgender person for fear of some discrimination backlash but a woman? No problem.
 
I'm not that angry at United, they weren't the ones who discriminated, it was the passengers and they were just doing what most businesses try to do, please their customers.

1. Was Mary Campos' flight experience harmed in any way? I'm assuming that she was given a similar seat in a different row.

2. Would it have not been more uncomfortable for her to remain in her seat and finding out about the other passengers' issue? United was doing her a favor too as I don't think she would want to be seated there.

3. This isn't any different than if you were sat next to a parent with a screaming baby and you asked to switch, are you discriminating against infants?

4. Is it really wrong for those men to ask not to be seated next to a female if it's really a religious/cultural issue? I'm all for equality but that's not the question here, it's the question of being able to tolerate differences among cultures and trying to accommodate them. It's easier to have someone to move and to not have female staff serve/speak to them than for them to find an all-male flight.

But, this does bring up a situation that what if a very devout Christian asks not to be seated to a LBGT passenger? Not sure that is applicable because Christian faith doesn't have a "rule" against sitting next to LBGT as some Middle Eastern religions have against women.

What about that Muslim woman working for Disney who insisted on wearing her hijab? Most people were on her side, what is the difference?

If I were United, i would have just informed her that due to seating issues, they had to move her and give her free miles/free drinks etc and that's it... end of story.
 
P.S. Either the gate person, an attendant or myself have asked passengers to move to accommodate my family so that we can sit with our kids... should I be on the news?

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irvinehomeowner said:
P.S. Either the gate person, an attendant or myself have asked passengers to move to accommodate my family so that we can sit with our kids... should I be on the news?

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Yes, you are discriminating against the non-familied people.
 
Happiness said:
irvinehomeowner said:
P.S. Either the gate person, an attendant or myself have asked passengers to move to accommodate my family so that we can sit with our kids... should I be on the news?

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Yes, you are discriminating against the non-familied people.
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not a protected class
 
They were ASKED. This woman had a boarding pass in hand and was TOLD she was being moved.

I've had people ask me and I've moved. The reason I've been asked is because my family and I were not all together anyway. I could have asked others but it's not that important to me unless it's giving up an aisle seat, especially for a middle seat on a long flight. I have an aisle seat so I don't have to nudge someone awake to get up and use the restroom, so depending on how long the flight is, I might say no in that case.
 
Ready2Downsize said:
They were ASKED. This woman had a boarding pass in hand and was TOLD she was being moved.

I've had people ask me and I've moved. The reason I've been asked is because my family and I were not all together anyway. I could have asked others but it's not that important to me unless it's giving up an aisle seat, especially for a middle seat on a long flight. I have an aisle seat so I don't have to nudge someone awake to get up and use the restroom, so depending on how long the flight is, I might say no in that case.
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If you say no, it may be deemed as you interfering with the directions of the flight crew. You can get a hefty fine and be asked to leave the plane if you repeatedly refuse the directions of a flight attendant. It's up to the pilot's discretion.
 
I've said no to other passengers, not the flight crew.

I've said yes to a flight attendant once who ASKED if I wouldn't mind sitting in the emergency exit seat because for some reason a young person was in it (this after she ASKED others who said no). Would I do it again if ASKED by the flight attendant? Maybe not. There is no under seat storage for that seat and it requires I get up past the person next to me to retrieve items from my carry on bag (ONLY thing I carry on...... no purse, so it contains everything I have brought on the plane).

I've never heard a flight attendant TELL someone they are moving. They have always ASKED if another person would move and I've heard people say no and that is the end of it........ flight attendant moves on and finds someone else or tells the family sorry.

If this happened to me, I'd let it be known I was not happy just like this woman did.

These days of cell phone videos, I can't imagine a pilot would throw off a woman who said she needed the aisle seat to use the restroom due to the fact that she's had three heads down the shoot, two of which were huge and that's what birthin' does to a woman of my age and please be kind to me so I don't pee my pants and make a mess on the plane.
 
peppy said:
Ready2Downsize said:
They were ASKED. This woman had a boarding pass in hand and was TOLD she was being moved.

I've had people ask me and I've moved. The reason I've been asked is because my family and I were not all together anyway. I could have asked others but it's not that important to me unless it's giving up an aisle seat, especially for a middle seat on a long flight. I have an aisle seat so I don't have to nudge someone awake to get up and use the restroom, so depending on how long the flight is, I might say no in that case.
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If you say no, it may be deemed as you interfering with the directions of the flight crew. You can get a hefty fine and be asked to leave the plane if you repeatedly refuse the directions of a flight attendant. It's up to the pilot's discretion.
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You politely ask the flight crew: "Are you ordering me to change seats or is this a choice?" They will make it clear from that point. This sounds more like a customer service request.
 
iacrenter said:
peppy said:
Ready2Downsize said:
They were ASKED. This woman had a boarding pass in hand and was TOLD she was being moved.

I've had people ask me and I've moved. The reason I've been asked is because my family and I were not all together anyway. I could have asked others but it's not that important to me unless it's giving up an aisle seat, especially for a middle seat on a long flight. I have an aisle seat so I don't have to nudge someone awake to get up and use the restroom, so depending on how long the flight is, I might say no in that case.
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If you say no, it may be deemed as you interfering with the directions of the flight crew. You can get a hefty fine and be asked to leave the plane if you repeatedly refuse the directions of a flight attendant. It's up to the pilot's discretion.
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You politely ask the flight crew: "Are you ordering me to change seats or is this a choice?" They will make it clear from that point. This sounds more like a customer service request.
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Exactly. You just need to be careful navigating this type of interaction. You can object but should not appear to be interfering.

They should have bumped her to business/first or offered miles/vouchers.

 
irvinehomeowner said:
P.S. Either the gate person, an attendant or myself have asked passengers to move to accommodate my family so that we can sit with our kids... should I be on the news?

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You aren't asking people to move because of race / gender.  United Airlines should have called security and kicked the two people off the flight. It is not okay to belittle women on here. Outright disgusting of those two people and outright disgusting of United to actually ask her to move seats (vs. kicking them off the flight). 
 
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