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Please learn how to converse on the Internet. This thread was not about EVs saving the planet... it's a good side effect but we all know the other ramification due to battery materials etc. It's just like smartphones, better technology over ICE. I did not agree with subsidies or mandates...

Baker for proximity (sort of), Aliso for area.

This would probably do well in the US: https://electrek.co/2025/10/28/fords-electric-bronco-arrives-china-stoke-comeback/

Funny... I thought all the buildable land in Irvine was what keeps prices elevated because you can always buy new housing here.

https://theconversation.com/covid-19-mrna-vaccines-could-unlock-the-next-revolution-in-cancer-treatment-new-research-258992 Not sure about this science but iI would be cool if the mRNA research did lead to other life saving solutions.

https://apnews.com/article/capitol-riot-jeffries-death-threat-ad3fefcd3a6c7dc6340e14eb7b954936

And he says EV buyers have expensive toys.

The Brightdrop is a commercial vehicle, not a consumer product.

Of course when a bully bullies...

Laguna Altura is coastal. :)

Where you live. :) Probably Walnut area or some parts of West Irvine. Still too expensive.

Prop 50 such a waste of money. Esp when Trump can bully other states to just redraw lines without a vote.

Someone told me that Eastvale is like the Irvine of the IE. Is that not true? And if not, what it the Irvine of the IE?

Tesla ride (esp early Y and 3) are horrible. I've mentioned that already. Try **driving** some EVs.

You're so silly. Those were not quite nationwide protests. Surprised you didn't go back farther. And of course ChatGPT knows more than you: The 2004 Republican National Convention protest against George W. Bush, while massive (hundreds of thousands of people), was centered in New York City...

I know morekaos doesn't like to mention this but it has to make you think when the US and other countries are protesting a US President.

Again, your problem is you don't look at the actual comparison of technology but what should I expect from someone who doesn't understand it. This thread is about what kind of car people prefer and you talk about political points. It's a Technology forum... keep your drivel in your water...

And this is why we go to ChatGPT. Waste of time talking to you.

I know your stance but you don't admit the benefits of EVs. You ignore them, criticize and complain. That's not a conversation, that what you call snowflaking.

I know someone who went from ICE to EV back to ICE and then realized how inconvenient ICE was and how badly they drove and went back to EV. Tax credits are not a concern for this crowd.