EV/Plug-in/Other vehicles

What type of alternative fuel car are you buying in the near future?

  • All electric (EV) car, luxury over $50k like Tesla

    Votes: 27 51.9%
  • EV car but lower priced less than $40k like Chevy Bolt, Nissan Leaf, Hyundai Ioniq

    Votes: 13 25.0%
  • Plug-in Hybrid (Chevy Volt, Kia Niro, Honda Clarity)

    Votes: 4 7.7%
  • Hydrogen

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 8 15.4%

  • Total voters
    52
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There are few reasons:

1. Emissions regulations (although this varies depending on who is in charge)
2. Cost of EVs going down (competition and scaling) which should increase profit margins
3. Younger generation skewing interest towards EVs
4. Brand perception of being future focused

It's why Toyota is actually moving towards BEVs now. And as a global company... they still have to compete in other parts of the world like China and Europe.
 
BZ had a cosmetic refresh and +25% increase in range. Previous model was a step above a golf cart.
 
Went to 2 Toyota dealerships yesterday, including Cerritos auto square.

All bZ and Rav 4 sold out and even the ones incoming on the boat were reserved.

Online, the Toyota dealership in Cerritos showed 1 Rav 4 PHEV in stock. I went to see it just as the new owner drove it away.

Not much price negotiation, sales guy said too many buyers and not enough cars. To get one I would have to place $500 deposit on incoming car in transit.
 
It's easy to discern from the chart what happened.

And EV sales will be lower for a while because there are less models being sold due to Fed policy change.

But as cheaper EVs come out and gas prices continue to be volatile, the move towards fuel efficiency and alternatives will continue to rise.

This isn't politics, this is evolution of technology. It will surely take longer than cell phones because cars last much longer than the last iPhone but it will get there. It's so much more fun to live in the future.
 
Not heavily. You probably don't know this but Tesla sold quite a few units without any consumer credits.

And most nascent technology need some incentive.

Toyota is selling well without the Fed (as is Hyundai/Kia and others).
 
Went to 2 Toyota dealerships yesterday, including Cerritos auto square.

All bZ and Rav 4 sold out and even the ones incoming on the boat were reserved.

Online, the Toyota dealership in Cerritos showed 1 Rav 4 PHEV in stock. I went to see it just as the new owner drove it away.

Not much price negotiation, sales guy said too many buyers and not enough cars. To get one I would have to place $500 deposit on incoming car in transit.
Check out Longo Toyota if you haven't already. A little bit of a drive, but they have nearly a dozen bZ XLEs in stock at the moment and plenty of RAV4s. Bought a bZ Limited from them earlier this month and they price matched another dealer's discount in addition to the $3,500 manufacturer's rebate and 0% interest.

I'm loving my bZ so far. EV cars, given the right circumstances (e.g., owning a home with reliable charging and/or solar, non-extreme weather environment, etc.), have so many more benefits than ICE. We've still barely broken the surface for EVs too. They'll will get comparatively cheaper and better as the tech improves.
 
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