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Re: Distance learning?
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2020, 07:26:02 PM »
Definitely agree with teachers who are planning distance learning while also implementing lessons for their own family.

These teachers haven’t received any training in this area; definitely something to be considered by schools in the future, but always, budgets are tight. Not the time to discuss pensions.

Just like most people who applied for a job, these teachers never applied to be online educators, but classroom teachers. They should be commended for whatever they are trying to do.

Would you assume a chef come to your house via Zoom to give you cooking lessons each night because you were not allowed in the restaurant.

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Re: Distance learning?
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2020, 07:34:05 PM »
I’m not holding anything against the teachers. I would have thought the district would have a standardized approach. That doesn’t even seem to exist. If anyone should be held accountable it’s the administrators.

Personally I don’t give a shit if my daughter learns anything over the next month or two. As long as we don’t get sick with this thing I’ll be happy. With that said we do sit down with her to do math and read but that takes a back seat to work sometime. So we just do want we can

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Re: Distance learning?
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2020, 09:22:09 PM »
Definitely agree with teachers who are planning distance learning while also implementing lessons for their own family.

These teachers haven’t received any training in this area; definitely something to be considered by schools in the future, but always, budgets are tight. Not the time to discuss pensions.

Just like most people who applied for a job, these teachers never applied to be online educators, but classroom teachers. They should be commended for whatever they are trying to do.

Would you assume a chef come to your house via Zoom to give you cooking lessons each night because you were not allowed in the restaurant.

Not sure that analogy works the way you intended it to.

On the flip side, if any district (or select schools) can pull off distance learning successfully, it’s IUSD. They have motivated/highly educated parents with the resources to help their kid(s). Access to computers, tablets, printer, supplies, reliable internet, etc

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Re: Distance learning?
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2020, 11:16:52 PM »
I am not worried about school. I am worry about living. This virus is out of control. First responders such as police, fire fighters, EMT, hospital workers are getting sick.
Learning is secondary.

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Re: Distance learning?
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2020, 11:22:43 AM »
I am not worried about school. I am worry about living. This virus is out of control. First responders such as police, fire fighters, EMT, hospital workers are getting sick.
Learning is secondary.

I understand this... but at the same time, we have to continue with life as best we can and for many of us parents and kids... school is a vital part of life.

I really feel bad for all the kids out there (not just mine). For many of them, depending on what grade they are in, this shelter in will impact them not just educationally but also socially.

Even at the college level, graduating students may have a much more difficult time starting their careers,

For IUSD, this week is currently spring break... supposedly next week, they will start with more online/interactive teaching so we shall see.
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Re: Distance learning?
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2020, 11:46:06 AM »
Things come up and we have to adapt.

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Re: Distance learning?
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2020, 11:54:25 AM »
There are plenty of free resources on the web to help.
Sometimes you have to roll up your sleeves and do it yourself. For example I am teaching my little one how to play the piano.

It goes to my core philosophy. Do not rely on the system.

Great things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle. Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Distance learning?
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2020, 02:37:18 PM »
Just got an email, IUSD moving to "credit/no credit" grading for the final reporting of the 19-20 school year:

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Dear IUSD Community,

As previously communicated, in accordance with the Governor’s Executive Order to stay at home during the COVID-19 pandemic, all IUSD schools will continue to provide emergency distance learning through the end of this academic school year. The District’s goals during this time are to provide learning activities that build appropriate grade-level skills and content knowledge, maintain a connection between students and teachers, and account for the variety of demands this unique time places on students, families and staff.  This transition to distance learning requires a different approach to student grading that will hold students harmless from the difficult circumstances they may face.

We know some students may struggle to process new material or demonstrate their knowledge and understanding of course content under these extraordinary circumstances.  Our lower income students and students with special needs may experience even greater challenges, while students whose families have been impacted by this disease may not have the ability to fully engage in distance learning.  In recognition of the anxiety, stress and inherent educational inequities that exist across our nation, institutions of higher education are encouraging a credit/no credit model as the most equitable approach to codifying student learning.   

To this end, during last night’s Board Meeting, after thorough discussion and deliberation, the Board of Education approved IUSD staff’s recommendation to move to “credit/no credit” grades for the final reporting period of the 2019-20 school year for all students. The Board’s decision included direction from the State Board of Education that requires districts to implement grading practices that “do no harm” to students during emergency distance learning.  This decision also included guidance from UC, CSU, state community colleges, Stanford’s Challenge Success, admissions officers from elite universities and feedback from IUSD principals, teachers and leadership, the Orange County Department of Education and Orange County school districts. Please review our frequently asked questions for more information on this topic.

In response to the pandemic, colleges and universities are leading the way in the transition to credit/no credit options. In order to eliminate the inevitable inequalities presented by distance learning, CSUs and UCs will accept credit or passing grades for A-G courses in winter/spring/summer 2020. The message from higher education institutions is clear: students will NOT be penalized for grading changes enacted by school districts in response to COVID-19.

Colleges lean heavily on an official document from all high schools called the School Profile. School Profiles explain circumstances to colleges, including graduation requirements, grade point average calculations, honors courses, average SAT/ACT scores, and other elements that make schools unique. In this case, the shift to credit/no credit in the face of a national pandemic will be described and accepted without penalty. The move is temporary and will be discontinued when students and staff return to school in 2020-21.

Furthermore, Stanford’s Challenge Success program and Joe Feldman, author of Grading for Equity have issued grading guidelines for distance learning: Guidance on Grading/Crediting Policies During COVID-19 and Recommendations for Grading During COVID-19. Their research suggests that stress related to COVID-19 will negatively impact student academic performance. In order to ease this negative impact, our District’s transition to credit/no credit will allow students and families to eliminate the pressure of performing competitively in this altered school environment. It reassures families that student work during this pandemic will be valued, but students will not be penalized for not being able to perform competitively under these circumstances. Our goal is to continue to support our students’ learning, build connections with them, and find ways to support them during distance learning.

Teachers, staff and administrators will remain focused on keeping our students highly engaged, connected, and invested in their learning.  Teachers will continue to have daily contact, to assign work, to provide feedback on the work, to host online discussion forums when age appropriate, and provide resources to ensure that our students have a variety of opportunities to strengthen their understanding of essential learning targets.  IUSD remains committed to preparing students to be successful at the next level.

For more information and resources, please continue to visit our dedicated COVID-19 resource webpage at iusd.org/COVID19.  Included on this page is information about distance learning information and supports, mental health and wellness resources and contacts, food and other assistance for families in need, enrichment resources and more.

Thank you for your understanding and partnership.

Sincerely,

Terry L. Walker
Superintendent of Schools
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Re: Distance learning?
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2020, 07:15:01 AM »
So if locking down was such a mistake why are educational institutions and local governments extending safety protocols?
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Re: Distance learning?
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2020, 07:29:24 AM »
So if locking down was such a mistake why are educational institutions and local governments extending safety protocols?

Because they can, they have no skin in the game. They are playing with other people’s money.

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Re: Distance learning?
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2020, 07:32:12 AM »
Sweden never closed schools. I believe Germany reopened their schools.

Also, at the college level you are dealing with adults. They can actually learn online. Many schools offer online mbas. You can’t do this with k-12

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Re: Distance learning?
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2020, 07:49:56 AM »
That's what I'm interested in.  The K-12 situation in the fall.
There's such a disconnect from where we are now in mid May to mid August when schools are supposed to start (less time actually for year round schools). 25-30 kids in a small space on top of each other for 6+ hours.  I know there's been talk of splitting the school day in half, rotating kids in and out, but I have little faith in K-12 administrations to pull that off as well as getting all that past the teacher's union.
But I can't see how schools don't open as pressures mount for "babysitting".

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Re: Distance learning?
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2020, 07:53:54 AM »
So if locking down was such a mistake why are educational institutions and local governments extending safety protocols?

Because they can, they have no skin in the game. They are playing with other people’s money.

There's actually a lot of skin in the game.  Decline in enrollment, loss of housing revenues, international students who pay full tuition not coming over, etc, etc all leads to $$$$ losses.

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Re: Distance learning?
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2020, 08:43:55 AM »
Germany is testing their students every four days.  Classes have been cut in half,  windows and doors are open for air circulation, etc.

I have a hard time imagining the uproar if we try to say the kids have to be tested to go back to school.

Australia is trying 1/4 class with each group doing 1 day a week.

I was asked by one of my sons program when we'd come back if they opened following protocols.  I'm not concerned about the protocols that my providers follow when they follow them, I'm concerned about the patrons that are chomping at the bit to go and what they're not doing.

As for the colleges, many schools have faculty and students reporting positive.  Not a lot of positives, just a handful.  One person in the class is all it takes.

Which brings us back to handling the people that won't follow minimal safety protocols.
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