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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #4005 on: May 03, 2021, 10:15:42 AM »
If you have been mask compliant for the last year, the new guidelines will take time to accept. If you were a non believer, then nothing has changed.

This is why some people say covid will be with us for a long time.

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« Reply #4006 on: May 03, 2021, 10:19:29 AM »
I find this funny. Other countries are begging for the vaccine. Mean while in America, 40% of the population thinks the vaccine is fake.

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #4007 on: May 03, 2021, 10:42:51 AM »
You been outside this weekend? I count 90% no masks...bars and streets full... Yah... No one cares.

Where is this? Florida or Texas?

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« Reply #4008 on: May 03, 2021, 10:55:19 AM »
I find this funny. Other countries are begging for the vaccine. Mean while in America, 40% of the population thinks the vaccine is fake.

Your observation runs right into President Biden's foreign policy theme: proving that democracies are better than autocracies (e.g. China). America has shown great weakness and division during the pandemic. Sadly we've got the solution in our hands and we reject it as fake science. Then add the political and racial divide and we've got a recipe for disaster. There is no common vision or sense of purpose in this country. We are just fighting each other.

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« Reply #4009 on: May 03, 2021, 11:44:01 AM »
You been outside this weekend? I count 90% no masks...bars and streets full... Yah... No one cares.

Where is this? Florida or Texas?

Long Beach, Seal Beach, Huntington Beach, Newport Beach, Redondo Beach....California

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« Reply #4010 on: May 03, 2021, 11:46:27 AM »
I find this funny. Other countries are begging for the vaccine. Mean while in America, 40% of the population thinks the vaccine is fake.

There is no vaccine against stupid.

And if there were, the stupid wouldn't take it.

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #4011 on: May 03, 2021, 11:46:43 AM »
If you have been mask compliant for the last year, the new guidelines will take time to accept. If you were a non believer, then nothing has changed.

This is why some people say covid will be with us for a long time.

I have always said that...like the cold, the Flu and all other corona virus-like illnesses..this is not measles or Polio...it will always be around in one form or another.  We still have H1N1 infections and deaths. Zero tolerance is nonsense.

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« Reply #4012 on: May 09, 2021, 07:20:42 PM »
That is not an uptick...that is data noise in a clear downtrend.

So how is Florida doing right now? Science doesn't care about the color of your font.
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« Reply #4013 on: May 09, 2021, 10:36:53 PM »
That is not an uptick...that is data noise in a clear downtrend.

So how is Florida doing right now? Science doesn't care about the color of your font.

Pretty good...

Here's a breakdown of new coronavirus cases reported to the state since May:

May 1: 3,841
May 2: 3,078
May 3: 3,682
May 4: 4,394
May 5: 4,504
May 6: 4,165
May 7: 3,977
May 8: 3,231

https://www.wtsp.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-numbers/coronavirus-in-florida-report-sunday-may-9-2021/67-a07efb0d-272b-4a5b-af70-39c678f86ca8

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« Reply #4014 on: May 10, 2021, 12:42:16 AM »
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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #4015 on: May 10, 2021, 10:28:22 AM »
https://abc7news.com/pastor-says-he-wont-close-church-after-covid-19-outbreak-infected-74-members/10607581/
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Returning to the pulpit after a COVID-19 outbreak infected him, his wife and 72 members of their congregation, the senior pastor of an Oregon church said Sunday that he will not kowtow to pressure to close the doors to the house of worship.

Pastor Scott Erickson of the Peoples Church in Salem, Oregon, began his Mother's Day sermon by addressing the recent surge in COVID-19 cases in his church and throughout the state.


"In the last several days, it is apparent that voices in our community and region want the church of Jesus Christ to be quiet and to be closed," Erickson told those in attendance at the church and others watching a livestream online broadcast. "Not us, not here, not now. That's not what we're doing."

Low transmission rates, nothing to see here, move along.


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Indian doctors warn against cow dung as COVID cure
« Reply #4016 on: May 10, 2021, 08:05:49 PM »
Indian doctors warn against cow dung as COVID cure

In the state of Gujarat in western India, some believers have been going to cow shelters once a week to cover their bodies in cow dung and urine in the hope it will boost their immunity against, or help them recover from, the coronavirus.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/indian-doctors-warn-against-cow-013634750.html

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« Reply #4017 on: May 11, 2021, 03:38:25 PM »
It’s thing like this that reinforce why people do not trust what comes out of the governments towers.  The mandate that outside transmission would be “less than 10%” (actually less than 1%) was as misleading as saying shark attacks will be less than 20,000 this year. (Actually around 100). The statement is technically true but incredibly misleading. Fear porn used to manipulate and justify lockdowns and mask mandates.

CDC exaggerated outdoor Covid transmission risk by saying 'less than 10%' of infections happen outside when true risk is below 1%: Critics blast agency for using misleading data to tell Americans to keep masks on


The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) estimate of the risk of COVID-19 transmission outdoors is misleading, public health experts warn.

When the federal health agency released new guidelines on masks for fully vaccinated people last month, director Dr Rochelle Walensky stated that 'less than 10 percent' of coronavirus spread was occurring outside.

The number of COVID-19 cases linked to outdoor spread is below one percent, and may even be as low as 0.1 percent.

It comes as New York Times critic David Leonhardt criticized the agency on Tuesday using mischaracterized data

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2233458942110/cdc-exaggerated-outdoor-covid-transmission-risk-by-saying-less-than-10-of-infections-happen-outside-when-true-risk-is-below-1-critics-blast-agency-for-using-misleading-data-to-tell-americans-to-keep-masks-on

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #4018 on: May 11, 2021, 03:59:35 PM »
Has to be true...saw it in the New York Times!!

These recommendations would be more grounded in science if anywhere close to 10 percent of Covid transmission were occurring outdoors. But it is not. There is not a single documented Covid infection anywhere in the world from casual outdoor interactions, such as walking past someone on a street or eating at a nearby table.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/briefing/outdoor-covid-transmission-cdc-number.html

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #4019 on: May 12, 2021, 06:36:24 AM »
reductio ad absurdum.

 
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The rare outdoor transmission that has happened almost all seems to have involved crowded places or close conversation.

Close being defined as under 6 feet.

Most contact tracing data I've seen list way too many, about 1/3rd, with no source data for the infection.

Will you get it casually passing by another dog walker, very very unlikely. Walking past the Starbucks patio, the same. Hanging out for an hour on the dining patio with 100 other guests?

I'm confident its safer than indoors, but the next step from this argument is the zero distancd no precautions argument.  Like the anti-vax crowd pushing the toothless OC School Board for their no vaccine stance and no masks, no distancing requirements in the shools.




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