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« Reply #4155 on: August 07, 2021, 03:44:24 PM »
"Controlling system" is a phrase that gives away your position. Plus, I've read some of your other recent posts.

People with science backgrounds can't even help a Harvard Law School grad to understand the simplest science concepts.

Whether you accept or not, we’re already under controlled systems. You need your Driver’s license to drive your vehicle. You need your passport to travel. You are given a number to identify yourself, called a social security. All these are controlled systems and they were intended to be good and bring orders to the society. You can’t steal. You can’t kill. You are controlled by the law to pay the consequences if you break. Certain levels of controlled systems actually are good for us humans.

Now if that simplest science concept leads people to say only vaccinated people can go to the grocery store, then that concept says unvaccinated people can starve to death. Is this really a good intended system we can accept? Everything is at freewill. With all these controlled systems, you still have to make your own decision. You can still kill someone as long as you pay with your own life. Are we starting to see unvaccinated people as someone who kills now?

You take offense that someone called you a democrat when you wore a mask. You can call me an alien, no immune system, afraid. I simply don’t care. Maybe because I was built differently. I will do whatever to protect myself.

It’s ok if someone calls me a democrat. What if I am?

I’m glad you’re doing all you can to protect yourself. That protects others too also.
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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #4156 on: August 07, 2021, 06:11:15 PM »
"Controlling system" is a phrase that gives away your position. Plus, I've read some of your other recent posts.

People with science backgrounds can't even help a Harvard Law School grad to understand the simplest science concepts.

Whether you accept or not, we’re already under controlled systems. You need your Driver’s license to drive your vehicle. You need your passport to travel. You are given a number to identify yourself, called a social security. All these are controlled systems and they were intended to be good and bring orders to the society. You can’t steal. You can’t kill. You are controlled by the law to pay the consequences if you break. Certain levels of controlled systems actually are good for us humans.

Now if that simplest science concept leads people to say only vaccinated people can go to the grocery store, then that concept says unvaccinated people can starve to death. Is this really a good intended system we can accept? Everything is at freewill. With all these controlled systems, you still have to make your own decision. You can still kill someone as long as you pay with your own life. Are we starting to see unvaccinated people as someone who kills now?

You take offense that someone called you a democrat when you wore a mask. You can call me an alien, no immune system, afraid. I simply don’t care. Maybe because I was built differently. I will do whatever to protect myself.

It’s ok if someone calls me a democrat. What if I am?

I’m glad you’re doing all you can to protect yourself. That protects others too also.

Further south the churches are, less mask wearers will be. They look at me like I'm some kind of a democrat or something. Hey, it's kind of a joke, but still true. ;)

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« Reply #4157 on: August 07, 2021, 06:20:58 PM »
Anyone knows what eyephone is saying? I usually have hard time understanding his words. Maybe it’s me.

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« Reply #4158 on: August 07, 2021, 07:28:12 PM »
Anyone knows what eyephone is saying? I usually have hard time understanding his words. Maybe it%u2019s me.

You are saying people at your church* give you the look like your a democrat because you wear a mask. You brought it up to make fun or it bothers you.


* churches should not give political opinions and judge you for wearing a mask, they should talk about stories from the bible and how it relates today. Such as the plague and disease which is talked about in the bible.

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« Reply #4159 on: August 08, 2021, 12:29:40 PM »
Unlike many of you, I have,  and my family has had,  both H1N1 and now COVID. We are just fine…have a wonderful weekend! >:D
No, I have never denied it exists…not only have I experienced it but I know many many many who have had it….I just think our reaction was overblown and they can’t let it go.

Good for you.

Remember I lost a cousin and her daughter lost her mother and couldn’t even see her before she died.

We’ve lost several friends to this.

Maybe when someone close to you isn’t “fine” after getting Covid, you’ll be more wary.

I also caught H1N1 back when it was going around, and it was not fun, which is why I would rather not get Covid.
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« Reply #4160 on: August 08, 2021, 03:53:36 PM »
Unlike many of you, I have,  and my family has had,  both H1N1 and now COVID. We are just fine…have a wonderful weekend! >:D
No, I have never denied it exists…not only have I experienced it but I know many many many who have had it….I just think our reaction was overblown and they can’t let it go.

Good for you.

Remember I lost a cousin and her daughter lost her mother and couldn’t even see her before she died.

We’ve lost several friends to this.

Maybe when someone close to you isn’t “fine” after getting Covid, you’ll be more wary.

I also caught H1N1 back when it was going around, and it was not fun, which is why I would rather not get Covid.

Yea, I don't see anybody volunteering to get Polio or saying meh about it as rationale for not getting the vaccine.  Polio though, is actually more mild than covid.  Roughly 3/4s (72%) or so are asymptomatic with no impacts. another quarter (24%) have mild no real impact.  Roughly 1-5% develop meningitis but are treatable with no long term impacts.  Roughly 0.1-0.5% develop a paralytic condition, and only about 10% of the partially paralyzed die, aka 0.01-0.05%  let's round up, Polio is 99.9% survivable.  You might just limp a little like FDR, it'll build character.

We all can take risks, just like in cars, you know, those multi-thousand dollar vehicles that have massive regulatory requirements for safety on them, that have massive rules for enforcement for safety when operating them, that will have your removal of privilege to drive one if you are caught violating the safety rules, bad enough or frequently enough, including imprisonment and financia ruin if you really f-up, that require you to carry minimal financial protection, that have trillions of dollars of safety in them from bumpers to crumple zones, to collapsible steering wheels, seatbelts, airbags, traction control, window that don't turn into daggers when broken and not to mention an entire code laws to manage the use of and insure that safe parameters of operation on the roads and highways.

Maybe $200 tickets are in order.




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« Reply #4161 on: August 08, 2021, 03:56:04 PM »
Anyone knows what eyephone is saying? I usually have hard time understanding his words. Maybe it%u2019s me.

You are saying people at your church* give you the look like your a democrat because you wear a mask. You brought it up to make fun or it bothers you.


* churches should not give political opinions and judge you for wearing a mask, they should talk about stories from the bible and how it relates today. Such as the plague and disease which is talked about in the bible.

I responded this to you in God thread to stay organized.

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« Reply #4162 on: August 09, 2021, 02:01:44 PM »
Sucha a shame for Tennessee to abandon vaccination outreach to minors for the fear that some parents will be upset.
I like this quote from here:
https://news.yahoo.com/delta-variants-message-anti-vaxxers-095210881.html

"We don't have to respect the decisions others make, but we have to respect their right to make them. That's why when someone does something we think is egregiously stupid, we say: It's your funeral."

Do you have children?  I wouldn't want someone trying to "reach out" to my minor children for vaccine encouragement.

I'm not anti-vax, but parents should have a right to make the decisions as to when their minor children receive it or not.  Most kids are not mature enough to make these type of adult decisions on their own.

Bill 23-171 would allow for children as young as 11 to consent to all vaccines on the government schedule. At the same time, the school, health care provider, and the parent’s private insurance would conceal the child’s vaccination from parents or guardians—who would have no knowledge of the vaccination unless the child told them.

https://parentalrights.org/urgent-dc-bill-update/

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« Reply #4163 on: August 10, 2021, 06:56:25 AM »
empowering parents to endanger their children, one dead kid at a time

waiting for the next measles outbreak!

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« Reply #4164 on: August 10, 2021, 08:21:24 AM »
This is not endangering kids...for kids under 18 there have only been 349 deaths the whole 2 year period.  In California only 37...they dont need vaccinations. Getting into a car puts them at greater risk....there is no such thing as zero risk



https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#SexAndAge

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« Reply #4165 on: August 10, 2021, 08:36:48 AM »
...this thing is killing the same demo it was last year...nothing really has changed...just the panic button moved to whos left so as to keep it going...

Data from the Massachusetts Department of Public Health (DPH) released on Monday shows the average age of vaccinated individuals who have died from coronavirus is 82.5 years old and that 73 percent of those who died had underlying conditions.

The new data revealed 395 hospitalizations and 100 deaths have occurred from breakthrough coronavirus cases, according to a Boston Herald report. Breakthrough cases refer to individuals who have been infected with the virus after being fully vaccinated.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/08/03/massachusetts-breakthrough-coronavirus-cases-jump-1364-in-one-week/

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« Reply #4166 on: August 10, 2021, 09:29:53 AM »
Unlike many of you, I have,  and my family has had,  both H1N1 and now COVID. We are just fine…have a wonderful weekend! >:D

It is nothing to brag about. Maybe the reason why you are still here is because you got the vaccine and caught the variant.

Or it’s not what you have been sold.  Either way, I’m still here.

You got the vaccine is interesting to say the least. Coming from the guy who down played covid constantly and made fun of people who wore a mask.
On top of that caught the covid variant and survived it. (Possibly because of the vaccine?)
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« Reply #4167 on: August 10, 2021, 10:08:53 AM »
Who said I got the vaccine?  I said two of the four in my household got vaccinated.  It's Why CDC was interested in us. Not only did our little cluster get the variant but we were only half vaccinated and those that were vaccinated got it anyway.  I down played it because as I suspected, it was very mild for all of us.  In fact, one who was not vaccinated was asymptomatic and never had any symptoms.  Our experience is what 99.97% of the public have experienced.  Not a whole lot.

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We’ve been led to believe that if we just care enough and try really hard, we can stop getting sick and save lives

We cannot beat this thing.

The notion that we could literally stop the spread of COVID by locking down and vaccinating it out of existence was always a fantasy. As National Geographic recently noted, ‘only two diseases in recorded history that affect humans or other animals have ever been eradicated’. (Only one of these viruses, smallpox, was a danger to human beings; the other is a bovine disease.) Every other virus, from ebola to influenza to the bubonic plague, still exists among us; we’ve just learned to live with them, and to control them as best we can through inoculation, preventive measures, and treatment for those who get sick.

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/zero-covid-blame-pandemic-fauci/

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« Reply #4168 on: August 10, 2021, 10:12:06 AM »
It is kind of funny when the media plays up the comment of “I can only imagine what the symptoms would have been like if I wasn’t vaccinated” when it comes to breakthrough cases. As if every covid case for the unvaccinated was some sort of death sentence or near death experience. The vast majority of covid cases are probably cold/flu like experiences.

I guess it’s just the media doing what they do to get clicks.

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Re: coronavirus
« Reply #4169 on: August 10, 2021, 10:25:16 AM »
It is kind of funny when the media plays up the comment of “I can only imagine what the symptoms would have been like if I wasn’t vaccinated” when it comes to breakthrough cases. As if every covid case for the unvaccinated was some sort of death sentence or near death experience. The vast majority of covid cases are probably cold/flu like experiences.

I guess it’s just the media doing what they do to get clicks.

Sorry bro its not the media. We all know covid can be mild or it can lead to severe with long term side effects or sadly death.

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