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Re: Land SE of PS/Altair (Modified: Environmental Concerns Broadly)
« Reply #135 on: December 09, 2019, 09:05:44 AM »
I don’t think West Irvine was a TIC hood.

Part of West Irvine north of Myford (Independence) is not TiC but the part of West Irvine between Irvine and Myford is TIC.

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Re: Land SE of PS/Altair (Modified: Environmental Concerns Broadly)
« Reply #136 on: December 09, 2019, 10:37:49 AM »
USCtrojan—best Irvine realtor—has been saying this for a while. All the other communities have already shown their potential, but PS has yet to show its potential.

I've always believed this because of the upcoming potential once the full build out of PS occurred hence why I would have bought a Las Ventanas Plan 2 back in 2012 but I got a great deal on a short sale in West Irvine.  It would have been great if they would have built a shopping center where Portola Elementary is but that won't be a huge issue as they'll build retail at the Great Park in the next few years. Irvine Company will flex their marketing muscle to change the conception of Portola Springs from a value village to a premium village now that they are selling homes in the prime location of Portola Springs (they did mistake thinking that they can get premium prices right off the bat without using momentum of sales like the builders did at Pavilion Park).

They should have named it Portola Hills or something to get the premium price.

Portola Hills already exists in Lake Forest BTW .

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Re: Land SE of PS/Altair (Modified: Environmental Concerns Broadly)
« Reply #137 on: December 09, 2019, 11:47:44 AM »
USCtrojan—best Irvine realtor—has been saying this for a while. All the other communities have already shown their potential, but PS has yet to show its potential.

I've always believed this because of the upcoming potential once the full build out of PS occurred hence why I would have bought a Las Ventanas Plan 2 back in 2012 but I got a great deal on a short sale in West Irvine.  It would have been great if they would have built a shopping center where Portola Elementary is but that won't be a huge issue as they'll build retail at the Great Park in the next few years. Irvine Company will flex their marketing muscle to change the conception of Portola Springs from a value village to a premium village now that they are selling homes in the prime location of Portola Springs (they did mistake thinking that they can get premium prices right off the bat without using momentum of sales like the builders did at Pavilion Park).

They should have named it Portola Hills or something to get the premium price.

Portola Hills already exists in Lake Forest BTW .

Portola Bluffs  :)

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Re: Land SE of PS/Altair (Modified: Environmental Concerns Broadly)
« Reply #138 on: December 09, 2019, 12:26:48 PM »
USCtrojan—best Irvine realtor—has been saying this for a while. All the other communities have already shown their potential, but PS has yet to show its potential.

I've always believed this because of the upcoming potential once the full build out of PS occurred hence why I would have bought a Las Ventanas Plan 2 back in 2012 but I got a great deal on a short sale in West Irvine.  It would have been great if they would have built a shopping center where Portola Elementary is but that won't be a huge issue as they'll build retail at the Great Park in the next few years. Irvine Company will flex their marketing muscle to change the conception of Portola Springs from a value village to a premium village now that they are selling homes in the prime location of Portola Springs (they did mistake thinking that they can get premium prices right off the bat without using momentum of sales like the builders did at Pavilion Park).

They should have named it Portola Hills or something to get the premium price.

Portola Hills already exists in Lake Forest BTW .

Portola Bluffs  :)

Just got an idea.

Portola Canyon

TIC  and PS home owners could have made extra 10% from that name.

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Re: Land SE of PS/Altair (Modified: Environmental Concerns Broadly)
« Reply #139 on: December 11, 2019, 11:54:18 AM »
lol nice name actually

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Re: Land SE of PS/Altair (Modified: Environmental Concerns Broadly)
« Reply #140 on: December 11, 2019, 05:46:55 PM »
What about Portola Hills or Portola Ridge or Portola Rock?
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Re: Land SE of PS/Altair (Modified: Environmental Concerns Broadly)
« Reply #141 on: December 12, 2019, 10:28:52 AM »
Portola Cove
Portola Bluffs
Portola Coast

They recently renamed West Irvine to West Irvine Pointe after being West Irvine for 20 years so it's not impossible they will someday rename Portola Springs.

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Re: Land SE of PS/Altair (Modified: Environmental Concerns Broadly)
« Reply #142 on: December 12, 2019, 11:09:44 AM »
TIC name the development Portola Springs because this area actually has a spring, the Tomato Springs.

But Tomato Springs doesn't sound too appealing so TIC name the new residential development Portola Springs. 

https://www.orangecoast.com/stuff-we-love/tomato-springs-real-place/
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Is Tomato Springs a Real Place?

Tomato Springs is tiny but legendary. In 1769, Father
Francisco Gomez of the Portola expedition—the first Europeans in California—discovered a source of fresh water he called San Pantaleón. Later explorers called this campsite the Aguage de Padre Gomez (“Spring of Father Gomez”), until those who followed 100 years later renamed it Tomato Springs, for the surrounding wild tomatoes. The spot didn’t get much press until 1912, when a 200-man posse tracked suspected rapist Joe Matlock to the springs and a major shootout ensued. Undersheriff Robert Squares was killed and three other men were injured before the “Tomato Springs Bandit” killed himself. Developers recently gave the area yet another name: Portola Springs. But in the 1990s, the Transportation Corridor Agencies named the nearby toll plazas Tomato Springs. This year, the toll plazas became history, too. Yet the springs still flow near Old Bee Canyon Road on the outskirts of Irvine.

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Re: Land SE of PS/Altair (Modified: Environmental Concerns Broadly)
« Reply #143 on: December 12, 2019, 12:47:50 PM »
TIC name the development Portola Springs because this area actually has a spring, the Tomato Springs.

But Tomato Springs doesn't sound too appealing so TIC name the new residential development Portola Springs. 

https://www.orangecoast.com/stuff-we-love/tomato-springs-real-place/
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Is Tomato Springs a Real Place?

Tomato Springs is tiny but legendary. In 1769, Father
Francisco Gomez of the Portola expedition—the first Europeans in California—discovered a source of fresh water he called San Pantaleón. Later explorers called this campsite the Aguage de Padre Gomez (“Spring of Father Gomez”), until those who followed 100 years later renamed it Tomato Springs, for the surrounding wild tomatoes. The spot didn’t get much press until 1912, when a 200-man posse tracked suspected rapist Joe Matlock to the springs and a major shootout ensued. Undersheriff Robert Squares was killed and three other men were injured before the “Tomato Springs Bandit” killed himself. Developers recently gave the area yet another name: Portola Springs. But in the 1990s, the Transportation Corridor Agencies named the nearby toll plazas Tomato Springs. This year, the toll plazas became history, too. Yet the springs still flow near Old Bee Canyon Road on the outskirts of Irvine.

So the Tomato Springs flow near the Old Bee CANYON Road. Now time to rename it -

Portola Canyon
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Re: Land SE of PS/Altair (Modified: Environmental Concerns Broadly)
« Reply #144 on: December 12, 2019, 05:54:08 PM »
If we really need to keep the Springs let’s go for Hidden Springs.  ;D

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Re: Land SE of PS/Altair (Modified: Environmental Concerns Broadly)
« Reply #145 on: December 12, 2019, 08:17:19 PM »
FYI, the Tomato Springs is located south of N4B where Brisa, Celeste and Talise are located. (see the first attached map)

Since we are on the names, I dig up the old original development map from TIC for this area (second attached map).  They did not name all these neighborhoods Portola Springs at first, only the 1st neighborhood (N1).  And as shown in this 2nd map, they give temporary name for the other PS neighborhoods.  They labeled the N5B and N5C Agua Chinon Knolls because there's Agua Chinon Creek near by. 

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Re: Land SE of PS/Altair (Modified: Environmental Concerns Broadly)
« Reply #146 on: December 16, 2019, 12:06:56 AM »
Thank you for sharing information about the neighborhood!
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