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Re: Homeless camps coming to Irvine
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2018, 11:15:14 AM »
Just in time for Cadence park opening.  Wondering if this will make it into the disclosures for this weekend?

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Re: Homeless camps coming to Irvine
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2018, 11:18:45 AM »
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Re: Homeless camps coming to Irvine
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2018, 11:30:08 AM »
So when is IHS going to chime in and say this homeless encampment is a conspiracy organized by TIC?

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Re: Homeless camps coming to Irvine
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2018, 11:45:26 AM »
The city should work with the county and come up with a better housing solution. Wasting tax payer dollars to sue the county only gets the lawyers rich and does nothing to help human suffering. Use the money and temporarily house the 200 people in rental units spread around the city. A much better choice than one large encampment. They should also get private partners/nonprofits/faith based groups involved in supporting these people. A city as large and prosperous as Irvine should be able to respond with generosity and humanity.
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Re: Homeless camps coming to Irvine
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2018, 11:59:50 AM »
Looking at the map it's going to be right across the road from all the new baseball fields that are set to open soon.  Lots of kids in close proximity on the weekends. 

I'm assuming the homeless won't be "locked in" this encampment and if they wander off the grounds no one will be there to stop them or force them to go back in.  What better place to wander off than a nearby park. 

Fun times.  Can't wait to listen to John and Ken this afternoon.

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Re: Homeless camps coming to Irvine
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2018, 12:20:55 PM »
So when is IHS going to chime in and say this homeless encampment is a conspiracy organized by TIC?

Which IHS? 

The original IHS or the new IHS3000?  :)

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Re: Homeless camps coming to Irvine
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2018, 12:21:08 PM »
Looking at the map it's going to be right across the road from all the new baseball fields that are set to open soon.  Lots of kids in close proximity on the weekends. 

I'm assuming the homeless won't be "locked in" this encampment and if they wander off the grounds no one will be there to stop them or force them to go back in.  What better place to wander off than a nearby park. 

Fun times.  Can't wait to listen to John and Ken this afternoon.
Is this the same land that the county wanted to use for commercial development but 5P and City of Irvine sued them to block it because 5P didn't want the competition?

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Re: Homeless camps coming to Irvine
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2018, 12:28:00 PM »
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Re: Homeless camps coming to Irvine
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2018, 01:32:05 PM »
Wonder which will rile up the locals more than the other - a homeless dumping ground encampment or a veterans cemetery. Time will tell.

The NIMBY factor would be greatly reduced if there were real housing and frankly strict access limits imposed on the site. If IPD would stop and frisk everyone coming in and out of the shelter area, nonsense levels might be reduced by half.

A saying I've kept dear to my heart applies in this case - "You are only 5 or 6 decisions away from becoming those you look down on". The truly homeless need a help during a rough patch that could come upon anyone, including me, at any time. The addicted and those who live outside by choice are another story and need a much different treatment approach than just free housing. If run properly, I'd not hesitate to live near a homeless services shelter. The key phrase is "run properly" and there's little chance of that through the State or County.

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Re: Homeless camps coming to Irvine
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2018, 02:25:27 PM »
I thought the county was more interested in building condos and retail along the 100 acre strip. Or is this a scorched earth move, i.e. stop suing to block our development or we'll drop a homeless encampment there instead.

Gated communities would be less affected, hard to push a shopping cart past the guards.

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Re: Homeless camps coming to Irvine
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Re: Homeless camps coming to Irvine
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Re: Homeless camps coming to Irvine
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2018, 03:19:11 PM »
GP has no public transportation, little infrastructure, and no jobs.  There is little chance that this actually happens.  Laguna Niguel has already threatened litigation and Irvine will be following closely behind.  Why setup the homeless to fail in such a poorly matched location?
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Re: Homeless camps coming to Irvine
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2018, 03:52:05 PM »
Wonder which will rile up the locals more than the other - a homeless dumping ground encampment or a veterans cemetery. Time will tell.

The NIMBY factor would be greatly reduced if there were real housing and frankly strict access limits imposed on the site. If IPD would stop and frisk everyone coming in and out of the shelter area, nonsense levels might be reduced by half.

A saying I've kept dear to my heart applies in this case - "You are only 5 or 6 decisions away from becoming those you look down on". The truly homeless need a help during a rough patch that could come upon anyone, including me, at any time. The addicted and those who live outside by choice are another story and need a much different treatment approach than just free housing. If run properly, I'd not hesitate to live near a homeless services shelter. The key phrase is "run properly" and there's little chance of that through the State or County.

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Agree with you 110 %. While we all work hard and strive to better ourselves, there are forces of nature at times will put you down and under without warning. Such events could be natural disaster could make a person or family homeless. A sudden fire, or a winter storm flooding could put you at risk in this scenario. While unfortunate, most normal sound minded people have such a plan to mitigate a lengthy homelessness. 

People with persistent mental illness and substance-use disorders make up a disproportionately high percentage of Anaheim rivers homeless. Providing long term free housing isn't going to help. Even if the OC county succeed in winning the "right to build", where they are intended to build, they have failed already. They failed in solving the issues many years ago even when lands and materials are cheap, it puzzled me to believe they will succeed this time. Especially in the locations and conditions of the proposed shelter.

OC County supervisors board playing politics and not doing policies to eliminates homelessness. By calling Irvine, Laguna and Huntington beach, they are just yelling for attentions. Looks I am doing something,,,,succeed or not. Likely to be a failed attempt, because too many hurdles to cross.

Sure they got some attention, but free housing is not the answer to homelessness.

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Re: Homeless camps coming to Irvine
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2018, 05:17:47 PM »
Looks like Todd Spitzer was the only supervisor voted against the homeless shelter in Irvine.

If you like to voice your opinion, feel free to call other supervisors.  Surprised Lisa Bartlett voted for homeless shelter at GP as she represents part of Irvine.

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