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Title: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: akap on July 14, 2013, 09:49:08 PM
Hi all,

Its time for us to find a landscaping company to get our yard completed.  If you have recommendations of professional companies who you have used, I would to hear about them.  We aren't planning on doing anything outrageous but would be interested in finding out what types of features you requested and the quotes you received for the work.

Thank you all.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Diane-GP on July 17, 2013, 12:10:34 PM
If you are interested in the hardscape end of the yard, Go Pavers can help:
http://www.gopavers.com/ (http://www.gopavers.com/)

And, if you are over in the Newport Beach area, a trip to Rogers Gardens might yield recommendations on local landscape contractors that they recommend:
http://rogersgardens.com/ (http://rogersgardens.com/)

Enjoy designing!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: JasonTheArtist on September 09, 2013, 11:02:45 AM
Seems to me that allot of people in Stonegate are using Aloha Landscapers. I tried looking them up and couldn't find anything. Has anyone on this forum used these guys for their landscaping needs? I would love to get someones opinion before I call them up.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: NYT on September 09, 2013, 01:02:27 PM
Having gone the landscape architect route this time, I'd highly recommend getting an architect to design and a contractor to carry out the design. It's an extra chunk of money, but it'll get you a much better end result.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: abcd1234 on September 09, 2013, 01:31:10 PM
I agree with NYT.  We went with a landscape architect for the overall vision/plans.  He then recommended several contractors for the hardscape.  When it came time for plant selection, I hired a a third person, a master gardener, to select waterwise trees/landscaping.  The landscape architect was not cheap- but totally worth the money for really good blueprints and a great custom design. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: JasonTheArtist on September 09, 2013, 05:04:18 PM
Thanks for the advice. Did any one of you use Roger's Gardens for the initial design? Or do you have any other recommendations?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on September 09, 2013, 05:05:58 PM
Jason - I used alohA, I would recommend them. They did a decent amount of homes at Augusta in Columbus square. Mahe and his brother run the company.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on September 10, 2013, 11:59:27 AM
Having gone the landscape architect route this time, I'd highly recommend getting an architect to design and a contractor to carry out the design. It's an extra chunk of money, but it'll get you a much better end result.

Can you recommend the landscape architect?  Thanks
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on September 24, 2013, 02:54:08 PM
anyone have Aloha's phone number?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on September 24, 2013, 03:14:46 PM
anyone have Aloha's phone number?

714-404-5657  that is Mahe's number, the "he" in is name is pronounced as if you were saying "hello" without the "llo"
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: NYT on September 24, 2013, 05:37:11 PM
Having gone the landscape architect route this time, I'd highly recommend getting an architect to design and a contractor to carry out the design. It's an extra chunk of money, but it'll get you a much better end result.

Can you recommend the landscape architect?  Thanks

We used Warwick Hunt from Studio H.

http://studioh-inc.com

Very satisfied with his work.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on September 25, 2013, 12:01:44 PM
anyone have Aloha's phone number?

714-404-5657  that is Mahe's number, the "he" in is name is pronounced as if you were saying "hello" without the "llo"

He seemed confused that I called him on this number.  But when I said I got it from a neighbor to get a quote from him he perked up.  HAHA.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: vonwrede on September 29, 2013, 02:11:08 PM
I used Resort Style Backyards for my backyard.  They do a lot of new homes and take it from just dirt to a backyard oasis.  The contractors were very professional and they have a guaranteed finish date.  I've referred a few people and everyone loves them not including the "friends of clients" discount they passed along to my friends.  Tell them Philip referred you.  Check out  http://ResortStyleBackyards.com to see their pics.  Also the number is  949-306-5347
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on September 29, 2013, 06:17:23 PM
I used Land Reform Construction for my backyard.  They do a lot of new homes and take it from just dirt to a backyard oasis.  Kendall (owner) is always really fast and they have a guaranteed finish date, if they don't finish on time they will pay you per day that its not finished.  I've referred a few people and everyone loves them not including the "friends of clients" discount they passed along to my friends.  Tell them Philip referred you.  Check out  http://landreformconstruction.com to see their pics.  Also the number is  949-433-6545.

How much did you spend?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on September 30, 2013, 12:23:51 PM
I used Land Reform Construction for my backyard.  They do a lot of new homes and take it from just dirt to a backyard oasis.  Kendall (owner) is always really fast and they have a guaranteed finish date, if they don't finish on time they will pay you per day that its not finished.  I've referred a few people and everyone loves them not including the "friends of clients" discount they passed along to my friends.  Tell them Philip referred you.  Check out  http://landreformconstruction.com (http://landreformconstruction.com) to see their pics.  Also the number is  949-433-6545.

+1 on that... he did the work on my home as well.  I can't speak more highly of a contractor that i have used so far.  I would totally recommend him to anyone.  It's hard to find honest contractors... so i have no qualms with putting my rep on the line to refer someone that does great work.

The key here:

1. doesn't use subcontractors
2. has worker's compensation for his guys
3. doesn't work on weekends - so you have a break from the noise and folks over at  your place.
4. you pay for the materials directly to the supplier - so you have transparency into the costs and know what you are paying for
5. provides a construction schedule with delivery dates and costs for key milestones.

how are their prices compared to like Aloha?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on September 30, 2013, 03:48:34 PM
Good to know.  Aloha took me to a bunch of his customers sites that he did, and everyone seems pretty happy with what they got and the jobs looked pretty nice. He doesn't subcontract and he said he has two separate crews that work at the same time so he's doing 2 jobs at once at any given time.

I reached out to Landscape Reform and waiting for a call back.

Pricing now seems to be inflating like everything else. What neighbors are telling me they got quoted for their yard 6-8 months ago are now anywhere from 15-20% higher.  Unless cost of pavers and plants went up that significantly, these landscape guys are just trying to cash in.  I understand that's just the business of new construction going on but it sucks for us consumers.

So far the landscape contractors who don't seem shady as for payment ask 10% to secure the job, 20% once supplies are ordered. another 20% for plants, and then the rest at the end of job which seems fair.

I'll be talking with Go Pavers soon and hopefully Landscape Reform contacts me soon.






Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: thedude111222 on October 01, 2013, 08:45:18 PM
All I'll say is avoid West Coast landcare like the freaking plague. We worked with one of their designers for a couple of weeks earlier in the summer, agreed on a price for the work, signed the contract, and submitted plans for approval.  During the waiting period, the owner decided to fire the employee we were working with and didn't bother to tell us or any of the customers that he was working with at the time.  Anyways, our plans were not approved as there were small modifications that need to be made (complete other source of frustration), so we contacted the company to get new plans drawn up. The owner then informs us that he was downsized the company would would be taking over all of the projects.  He sits on our plans for about 3 weeks, and then emails us saying his old employee had under-quoted the project cost and it would actually cost 25-30% more....needless to say we are asking for and WILL BE GETTING our deposit back, but thanks to these a**hats we've been set back almost 2 month. Thanks to the internet, there will soon be lots of negative reviews on this company...I have nothing better to do these days...not like I have a nice yard to spend my free time in. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on October 02, 2013, 04:31:17 PM
not the first i heard about West Coast upping the costs on projects.  Plus I've seen their work, there is no creativity in it.  All their houses look exactly the same.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: kahunasteve on October 17, 2013, 09:04:10 AM
Hi Everyone,

Curious if anyone has had any positive experiences with any landscapers for very small motorcourt backyards?  We had two initial appointments set up with two different landscapers and both of them no-showed.  Sign of the times...
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on October 17, 2013, 11:48:56 AM
Hi Everyone,

Curious if anyone has had any positive experiences with any landscapers for very small motorcourt backyards?  We had two initial appointments set up with two different landscapers and both of them no-showed.  Sign of the times...

you doing just landscaping and no hard scape?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on October 17, 2013, 02:37:19 PM
OK to provide an update, The final 3 contenders after meeting with landscapers based on recommendations here.

Land Reform - I met with Ken, very nice and knowledgeable guy.  He was the only landscaping company who would provide a formal quote with an itemized list, break down of the pricing and even give you a rough drawing before you accept the job.  He knew his plants, he knew his pavers, but the price was very high.  Granted I believe he will do good work, it was way above at least what I had in mind for my budget.  Ken also said he will match anybody's written quote.  The only problem is that no one will give you a written quote until you get a contract in place.  If I had the money, I would have gone with Land Reform.  I know Ken trolls these forums, so sorry Ken we couldn't work out a better price.

Go Pavers - Probably the cheapest and they seem like they do amazing work for the price. But the only thing is it is only pavers and no landscaping.  For me, I didn't feel like finding one more contractor to do landscaping and to have to coordinate with Go Pavers.  It was a convenience thing for me to go with a single contractor to do it all.

Aloha - Mahe is a pretty cool dude.  He handles his business like a one man show...everything is verbal until you say you're good and this is what I want.  He doesn't do websites or online marketing, just by word of mouth.  That's why you won't find much on him on the web.  He took me to a bunch of his clients. The work seems pretty good.  I don't think he's going to give you something crazy spectacular but he does good work.  He seems honest, he seems unfront, easy to be blunt with him.

I decided to go with Aloha because he was the most willing to work with me on the price. He gave me a price...I said this is my budget...can you make it work?  He said sure lets do this...and it was done. Land Reform was willing to work on the price but could only come down so far from their quote.  Like I said previously, I'm pretty sure their price is worth their workmanship, but for me, with so much to spend on a new house, a savings somewhere is very much welcomed.

Hope this helps someone with their decisions.  I tried some of the other landscapers in the hood...West Coast seems to be upping the price on everyone even though they quoted you one price. Greenline was another Chinese landscaper and his work was not very good...and they take forever.  Couple of other small name ones that didn't seem very good or they just felt shady.




Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on October 17, 2013, 04:08:29 PM
OK to provide an update, The final 3 contenders after meeting with landscapers based on recommendations here.

Land Reform - I met with Ken, very nice and knowledgeable guy.  He was the only landscaping company who would provide a formal quote with an itemized list, break down of the pricing and even give you a rough drawing before you accept the job.  He knew his plants, he knew his pavers, but the price was very high.  Granted I believe he will do good work, it was way above at least what I had in mind for my budget.  Ken also said he will match anybody's written quote.  The only problem is that no one will give you a written quote until you get a contract in place.  If I had the money, I would have gone with Land Reform.  I know Ken trolls these forums, so sorry Ken we couldn't work out a better price.

Go Pavers - Probably the cheapest and they seem like they do amazing work for the price. But the only thing is it is only pavers and no landscaping.  For me, I didn't feel like finding one more contractor to do landscaping and to have to coordinate with Go Pavers.  It was a convenience thing for me to go with a single contractor to do it all.

Aloha - Mahe is a pretty cool dude.  He handles his business like a one man show...everything is verbal until you say you're good and this is what I want.  He doesn't do websites or online marketing, just by word of mouth.  That's why you won't find much on him on the web.  He took me to a bunch of his clients. The work seems pretty good.  I don't think he's going to give you something crazy spectacular but he does good work.  He seems honest, he seems unfront, easy to be blunt with him.

I decided to go with Aloha because he was the most willing to work with me on the price. He gave me a price...I said this is my budget...can you make it work?  He said sure lets do this...and it was done. Land Reform was willing to work on the price but could only come down so far from their quote.  Like I said previously, I'm pretty sure their price is worth their workmanship, but for me, with so much to spend on a new house, a savings somewhere is very much welcomed.

Hope this helps someone with their decisions.  I tried some of the other landscapers in the hood...West Coast seems to be upping the price on everyone even though they quoted you one price. Greenline was another Chinese landscaper and his work was not very good...and they take forever.  Couple of other small name ones that didn't seem very good or they just felt shady.


i think you will be happy with his work. i got his info from a neighbor whose yard i liked and asked him who did it. once i got in touch with Mahe he also took me to other homes they worked on. the worked all looked good.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: vonwrede on October 31, 2013, 08:02:53 AM
Wow!  Thanks for the breakdown.  Very informative and I think people will find this useful.  Had never heard of Aloha before this forum.  What was the price difference between Land Reform or Aloha?  I've used Land Reform and they did a great job. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on February 08, 2014, 03:50:04 PM
It's time for us to do the landscaping.  We got two quotes:

A.  KS Landscaping - This was recommended by our neighbor.  We met with Andru (project manager), he did measurements and came back to us after a week with drawings and a written quote.  He even came on superbowl sunday morning to walk us through his quote.  He is very polite and professional.  The problem is, his quote he gave us was only hardscape and the amount is in excess of our budget = and higher than what our neighbor paid for theirs (they have a bigger backyard than us).  So we didn't really like that.

B.  Aloha Landscaping - Mahe came with his wife and daughter on thursday night. Asked us what we want and our budget. Gave us his quote (verbal) right there and started talking about what he would do with the backyard.  We started imagining right there.  He showed us a video of one of the work he did at Las Ventanas, amazing!  He gave us a quote - way higher than KS, but, inclusive of everything we want (no sacrifices).  We negotiated and he met us in the middle.  He wrote his offer that night and we signed.  Mahe's positive reviews here and his competitive quote sealed the deal.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on February 08, 2014, 05:34:25 PM
You will like working with Mahe very nice guy. If I remember correctly he second cousins or something like that to haloti ngata of the Baltimore ravens. Mahe actually played college ball.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on March 17, 2014, 11:58:44 AM
You will like working with Mahe very nice guy. If I remember correctly he second cousins or something like that to haloti ngata of the Baltimore ravens. Mahe actually played college ball.

The lack of progress in our landscaping is definitely annoying me.  Is there anyone here who is CURRENTLY using Mahe Laivaa (Aloha Landscaping) as their contractor for landscaping?   How is it going?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on March 17, 2014, 12:00:34 PM
You will like working with Mahe very nice guy. If I remember correctly he second cousins or something like that to haloti ngata of the Baltimore ravens. Mahe actually played college ball.

The lack of progress in our landscaping is definitely annoying me.  Is there anyone here who is CURRENTLY using Mahe Laivaa (Aloha Landscaping) as their contractor for landscaping?   How is it going?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on March 17, 2014, 01:44:50 PM
You will like working with Mahe very nice guy. If I remember correctly he second cousins or something like that to haloti ngata of the Baltimore ravens. Mahe actually played college ball.

The lack of progress in our landscaping is definitely annoying me.  Is there anyone here who is CURRENTLY using Mahe Laivaa (Aloha Landscaping) as their contractor for landscaping?   How is it going?

I didn't use him yet but I just had a talk with Mahe two weeks ago about doing landscaping for my back yard.  Currently he is doing 3 homes in my street and according to him, he has 5 other project currently working on.    I don't know how big is his operation and how many workers he has but it Looks like he's working on a lot of  project at the same time. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 17, 2014, 02:30:56 PM
Just a general note regarding all contractors. Check if the license is active or valid.

https://www2.cslb.ca.gov/OnlineServices/MobileLicenseCheck/default.aspx


Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: mms2020 on March 17, 2014, 03:05:15 PM
Just a general note regarding all contractors. Check if the license is active or valid.

https://www2.cslb.ca.gov/OnlineServices/MobileLicenseCheck/default.aspx

Good hint about Aloha.  We knew about his license but based upon forum recommendations, we decided to go with him.  I hope we don't regret it!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Irvinecommuter on March 17, 2014, 03:20:34 PM
Just a general note regarding all contractors. Check if the license is active or valid.

https://www2.cslb.ca.gov/OnlineServices/MobileLicenseCheck/default.aspx

Good hint about Aloha.  We knew about his license but based upon forum recommendations, we decided to go with him.  I hope we don't regret it!

We spoke with Mahe last week and while very personable and nice, I feel like he was not very helpful in the design of the yard.  He basically listens to what you state that you want and tells you that he can do it.

We also spoke to a few other contractors and they were more helpful in suggesting what is good or bad for the location and certain things to be aware of. 

Aloha is still in the running but we will probably end up going elsewhere.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: mms2020 on March 17, 2014, 03:54:17 PM
I think you are absolutely correct.  He is not creative and does not have lot of ideas.  However, if you know what you want, he may be able to do it at a reasonable cost. It almost seems that now he is too busy which results in delays.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on March 17, 2014, 04:03:38 PM
So who are the good landscapers that don't cost so much.. please list out.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Homer_Simpson on March 17, 2014, 04:18:13 PM
So who are the good landscapers that don't cost so much.. please list out.

We used gopavers before.  Cheap and reputable. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 17, 2014, 04:31:58 PM
Does go pavers do other things then lay pavers? (Planters, install sprinklers/lights?)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 17, 2014, 05:00:18 PM
Does go pavers do other things then lay pavers? (Planters, install sprinklers/lights?)

I called and they install planters, sitting wall. But she said, there main focus is pavers.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on March 18, 2014, 06:58:20 PM
So Mahe's team resumed work yesterday.  I got to say, my frustration last week is overcome by my satisfaction of how beautiful our landscaping is turning out to be. I'll reserve any more judgement until he is done. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 18, 2014, 07:04:42 PM
Who is that?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on March 18, 2014, 07:32:13 PM
Who is that?

Aloha Landscaping
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 18, 2014, 08:54:29 PM
So did you check if that contractor is licensed and has insurance?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on March 18, 2014, 09:45:11 PM
So did you check if that contractor is licensed and has insurance?

No. To be honest, I am more concerned about him finishing the job, because I'm already 90% paid.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 18, 2014, 09:53:32 PM

How long has the project taken so far?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on March 18, 2014, 09:54:09 PM
So Mahe's team resumed work yesterday.  I got to say, my frustration last week is overcome by my satisfaction of how beautiful our landscaping is turning out to be. I'll reserve any more judgement until he is done.

Micro manage him...I tried to not be the owner that harassed him on every little detail, and ended up having to have them redo the pavers.  Basically his day laborers aka the Mexicans make bad judgement calls, and did some extremely shotty work.  There were a lot of little mistakes his crew made and in the end it looks decent but not great.  If you nit pick everything to make sure you get what you want exactly you could be extremely happy.   

So did you check if that contractor is licensed and has insurance?

No. To be honest, I am more concerned about him finishing the job, because I'm already 90% paid.

He will finish the job...he's not an a-hole like that, but if you're not a big budget landscaping job, he'll lag to no end.  My 2 week job took 2.5 months.  Drove me insane...but he never gave me the impression he was going to run off.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Goriot on March 18, 2014, 10:25:28 PM
I signed a contract with Mahe, but his older brother Samuela managed the project for him.  They finished our basic landscaping job in about 3 weeks as agreed upon.  This was back in January so they might have had less projects.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 19, 2014, 10:32:12 AM
Thanks for your feedback

It took 2.5 months? (wow - you must have a lot of upgrades - BBQ, fire pit?)

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on March 19, 2014, 11:24:11 AM
Thanks for your feedback

It took 2.5 months? (wow - you must have a lot of upgrades - BBQ, fire pit?)

That's the sad part.  All I had done are antique cobble pavers and my 2 feet along the wall that HOA requires.  But after initial debacle his crew made, we had to pull everything up and re-lay the pavers down.  Forgot putting the weed block under the pavers, I started in mid Oct, during Thanksgiving and X-mas break they disappeared on me. for about 2 weeks each.  Picked the wrong plants that I asked for.  I called Mahe with each error and he corrected it, but if I just micro managed them in the beginning I could have saved myself time and headache.

Don't get me wrong, Mahe and Sam are super nice guys...and they will fix the problem.  They won't run out on you, or try to cheat you.  But Sam isn't the greatest project manager, and Mahe isn't always around. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 19, 2014, 11:26:43 AM
Is Aloha Landscaping the same as Aloha Pavers?

Yes... I don't want to search. :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on March 19, 2014, 11:46:18 AM
Thanks for your feedback

It took 2.5 months? (wow - you must have a lot of upgrades - BBQ, fire pit?)

That's the sad part.  All I had done are antique cobble pavers and my 2 feet along the wall that HOA requires.  But after initial debacle his crew made, we had to pull everything up and re-lay the pavers down.  Forgot putting the weed block under the pavers, I started in mid Oct, during Thanksgiving and X-mas break they disappeared on me. for about 2 weeks each.  Picked the wrong plants that I asked for.  I called Mahe with each error and he corrected it, but if I just micro managed them in the beginning I could have saved myself time and headache.

Don't get me wrong, Mahe and Sam are super nice guys...and they will fix the problem.  They won't run out on you, or try to cheat you.  But Sam isn't the greatest project manager, and Mahe isn't always around.

Yes, you are right.  I never got the impression that Mahe will walk away and rip me off.  My problem really is the same as yours.  I feel I have to micromanage every step of the way to make sure it is moving along.  I have no doubt that our landscaping will turn out great because of the development I am seeing.  Mahe promised me end of the month it will be done.  We'll see.

FYI - when I signed the contract, it wasn't Aloha Landscaping on the contract.  It was just Mahe's name.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on March 19, 2014, 11:52:58 AM

How long has the project taken so far?

They started digging on 2/26.  So it's been 4 weeks now..  Out of that 4 weeks, they worked only 9 days.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on March 19, 2014, 02:00:28 PM
Is Aloha Landscaping the same as Aloha Pavers?

Yes... I don't want to search. :)

No they are not the same.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on March 19, 2014, 02:02:31 PM
It sounds like Mahe and Sam took on to many gigs and are spread way too thin and splitting the weeks at various jobs. When he did my job our community was wrapping up. His crew was all Hawaiian, now sounds like he has some Mexicans working for him as well, wonder if he just picked up day laborers.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 19, 2014, 02:05:31 PM
Is Aloha Landscaping the same as Aloha Pavers?

Yes... I don't want to search. :)
No they are not the same.

Thanks.

I think that distinction should be made because the unhappy reviews of Aloha Landscape may reflect on Aloha Pavers.

Or Aloha Hawaiian BBQ in The District.

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: mms2020 on March 19, 2014, 02:21:28 PM
Can any one who had the landscaping done share his/her experience as to what things should be watched during the landscaping?
We are mostly having pavers, and some grass areas/plants.

Thanks for your feedback

It took 2.5 months? (wow - you must have a lot of upgrades - BBQ, fire pit?)

That's the sad part.  All I had done are antique cobble pavers and my 2 feet along the wall that HOA requires.  But after initial debacle his crew made, we had to pull everything up and re-lay the pavers down.  Forgot putting the weed block under the pavers, I started in mid Oct, during Thanksgiving and X-mas break they disappeared on me. for about 2 weeks each.  Picked the wrong plants that I asked for.  I called Mahe with each error and he corrected it, but if I just micro managed them in the beginning I could have saved myself time and headache.

Don't get me wrong, Mahe and Sam are super nice guys...and they will fix the problem.  They won't run out on you, or try to cheat you.  But Sam isn't the greatest project manager, and Mahe isn't always around.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on March 19, 2014, 02:34:23 PM
Can any one who had the landscaping done share his/her experience as to what things should be watched during the landscaping?
We are mostly having pavers, and some grass areas/plants.

Thanks for your feedback

It took 2.5 months? (wow - you must have a lot of upgrades - BBQ, fire pit?)

That's the sad part.  All I had done are antique cobble pavers and my 2 feet along the wall that HOA requires.  But after initial debacle his crew made, we had to pull everything up and re-lay the pavers down.  Forgot putting the weed block under the pavers, I started in mid Oct, during Thanksgiving and X-mas break they disappeared on me. for about 2 weeks each.  Picked the wrong plants that I asked for.  I called Mahe with each error and he corrected it, but if I just micro managed them in the beginning I could have saved myself time and headache.

Don't get me wrong, Mahe and Sam are super nice guys...and they will fix the problem.  They won't run out on you, or try to cheat you.  But Sam isn't the greatest project manager, and Mahe isn't always around.

i would say the main thing to look out for is grading to make sure the water runs away from the property. you can just take a level. if its not visible to the eyey, i recommend taking a level (the three foot one) and make sure the grading is right. for pavers some use the weed cover, some dont, in theory the polymeric sand they use should not let the weeds through but we will see. Go pavers didnt use the weed cover, mahe @ aloha is a believer of the weed cover. the good thing with pavers is they do screw something up its easy to fix, with concrete not so much.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on March 19, 2014, 02:40:18 PM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on March 19, 2014, 02:44:28 PM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on March 19, 2014, 03:18:19 PM

i would say the main thing to look out for is grading to make sure the water runs away from the property. you can just take a level. if its not visible to the eyey, i recommend taking a level (the three foot one) and make sure the grading is right.

YES!  This is key.  In my current rental, the water runs towards the property.  It pools at the edge of the concrete patio/grass area.  And drainage is also an issue (random puddles here and there) - so I would look for that as well. 

yeah, that is a good test. get a water hose and flood the entire paved area while they are there and if anything puddles up have them fix it, this way you havent made the final payment yet so at least you have leverage.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 19, 2014, 04:30:44 PM

How long has the project taken so far?

They started digging on 2/26.  So it's been 4 weeks now..  Out of that 4 weeks, they worked only 9 days.

You might be on the 2.5 month plan.  ;)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Irvinecommuter on March 19, 2014, 04:37:38 PM

How long has the project taken so far?

They started digging on 2/26.  So it's been 4 weeks now..  Out of that 4 weeks, they worked only 9 days.

You might be on the 2.5 month plan.  ;)

I feel the stories here go in line with my initial feeling on Mahe...really good guy and will do whatever you want but doesn't really to be really interested in the job.  As I stated above, he was nice and personable but didn't really provide any suggestions or tips on what could be done.   Spreading yourself too thin really slights your existing customers and show a lack of commitment.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on March 19, 2014, 07:15:03 PM

Yes, you are right.  I never got the impression that Mahe will walk away and rip me off.  My problem really is the same as yours.  I feel I have to micromanage every step of the way to make sure it is moving along.  I have no doubt that our landscaping will turn out great because of the development I am seeing.  Mahe promised me end of the month it will be done.  We'll see.

FYI - when I signed the contract, it wasn't Aloha Landscaping on the contract.  It was just Mahe's name.

Same thing...the carbon copy contract with his name.  All the checks are paid directly to Sam or Mahe.  Felt a little weird at first but he came through. 

Issue from Aloha Landscaping...like Qwerty said grading.  They put too much slope towards the drain and it's pretty visible.  The drain is in a key location where you would put a patio chair around the table so that causes some issues.  It's not horrible, just annoying.  They forgot the weed block underneath the sand so they just threw it on top in between the sand and the pavers which is annoying. 

The BIG issue was that the day laborers made some horrible cuts on the pavers and just shoved crooked pieces in to make it fit.  Sam tried to sell it as just the way it is, Mahe came and said ok I see the problem and had the A crew come and redo it. B crew moved on to do other stuff.  That took an extra 2-3 weeks to get them to do that.

I guess I could be partially to blame because I should have went outside everyday and made sure things looked right and bitched and moaned more when I saw things that were off.  But I just trusted that they would come and fix it, and not try to shove the square peg in the round hole. 

Lesson learned, your landscaper is only as good as their day laborer. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 19, 2014, 07:20:24 PM
Yeesus - the stories are sounding worse and worse by each story I read.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on March 19, 2014, 07:23:26 PM

How long has the project taken so far?

They started digging on 2/26.  So it's been 4 weeks now..  Out of that 4 weeks, they worked only 9 days.

You might be on the 2.5 month plan.  ;)

I feel the stories here go in line with my initial feeling on Mahe...really good guy and will do whatever you want but doesn't really to be really interested in the job.  As I stated above, he was nice and personable but didn't really provide any suggestions or tips on what could be done.   Spreading yourself too thin really slights your existing customers and show a lack of commitment.

you're pretty dead on about your feelings about Mahe.  If I were to go back and do this again, I'd go with Ken from Land Reform.  He was the only guy who drew up a plan and showed me them prior to even getting the job...just to show me his ideas.  He came in at a higher price, but after going through this process, I'd have paid.

He gives you referrals to talk to if you want, just happened my wife's friend used him and said like any other contractor, you still have to pester him, but he definitely does show up to your job site everyday to check up on the work.  And he was easy to work with. 

Not sure how the job market is out there now, if he's spreading himself thin too he could end up doing the same thing.  Too many jobs out there for these guys to cash in on, they start to care only about quantity versus quality.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on March 19, 2014, 07:47:40 PM
Taken on too many projects at once might be a common issue with a lot of landscapers, especially from now on.   With the volume of new home construction pick up dramatically recently, I think most of  landscapers will have tones of job line up waiting for them for rest of the year and beyond.
Besides Aloha and KS, some of my neighbor are using Galvan and Sean form Savannascape.  Going to check them out also before made my decision.

 http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,3424.msg55273.html#msg55273
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on March 19, 2014, 08:21:23 PM
if you are doing pavers, you folks should really consider Gopavers.com - they did almost 1500 sq ft of pavers, sod and sprinklers in 4 days, very professional, clean up really well. at about $10/sq ft.   these guys dont mess around. im surprised more people dont use them.  yes they specialize in pavers but do everything, those guys do 100K+ jobs all the time in.  Call them and tell them you want to work with Kobi Dan.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on March 19, 2014, 08:27:37 PM
http://www.gopavers.com/pavers-gallery/bbqs-firepits/

http://www.gopavers.com/pavers-gallery/planters-and-steps/

http://www.gopavers.com/pavers-gallery/pool-decks/

http://www.gopavers.com/pavers-gallery/#all-projects

http://www.gopavers.com/pavers-gallery/patios-and-walkways/

http://www.gopavers.com/pavers-gallery/driveway-pavers/
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on March 19, 2014, 10:55:40 PM
if you are doing pavers, you folks should really consider Gopavers.com - they did almost 1500 sq ft of pavers, sod and sprinklers in 4 days, very professional, clean up really well. at about $10/sq ft.   these guys dont mess around. im surprised more people dont use them.  yes they specialize in pavers but do everything, those guys do 100K+ jobs all the time in.  Call them and tell them you want to work with Kobi Dan.
qwerty do you have pics from your gopavers job?  Also I had no idea they did sprinklers, but very good to know!  I can have them probably do 90% of my yard then.  Do they also do plants and/or turf?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on March 19, 2014, 11:11:54 PM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on March 19, 2014, 11:22:47 PM
if you are doing pavers, you folks should really consider Gopavers.com - they did almost 1500 sq ft of pavers, sod and sprinklers in 4 days, very professional, clean up really well. at about $10/sq ft.   these guys dont mess around. im surprised more people dont use them.  yes they specialize in pavers but do everything, those guys do 100K+ jobs all the time in.  Call them and tell them you want to work with Kobi Dan.
qwerty do you have pics from your gopavers job?  Also I had no idea they did sprinklers, but very good to know!  I can have them probably do 90% of my yard then.  Do they also do plants and/or turf?

they do plants also, they will take you to their nursery to get better pricing. i dont have any pics but it looks almost identical to this, instead of trees at the back though, i have pavers throughout the yard with just a patch of grass in the middle for the dogs. no plants or anything on mine since the black widows will hang out there and dont want the dogs getting bit. not sure if they do turf. call them and ask for Kobi, very likeable, not pushy at all.

(http://www.gopavers.com/wp-content/gallery/patioswalkways-2/img_4105_88.jpg)

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on March 19, 2014, 11:26:51 PM
if you are doing pavers, you folks should really consider Gopavers.com - they did almost 1500 sq ft of pavers, sod and sprinklers in 4 days, very professional, clean up really well. at about $10/sq ft.   these guys dont mess around. im surprised more people dont use them.  yes they specialize in pavers but do everything, those guys do 100K+ jobs all the time in.  Call them and tell them you want to work with Kobi Dan.

What did u use mahe for then? 
I think their name makes ppl think they are all pavers.

i used mahe to do the front wall of the house, new steps, sprinklers and the plants in the front of the house. but homer had used gopavers and they had excellent reviews on angieslist plus their work on their site looked really good so since i wanted pretty much pavers in the side yard and they specialize in pavers i went with go pavers for the sideyard. they are extremely professional. they told me they would knock it out in four days and they did.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on March 19, 2014, 11:45:16 PM
Thanks q-money... def will give them a call when I'm ready.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on March 19, 2014, 11:52:13 PM
I would like to see more photos of what people are doing in Irvine.  Trying to figure out what type of flooring to get for the backyard.  I want turf but will also have hardscape. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on March 19, 2014, 11:57:40 PM
aqua - not sure if you have seen the pricing section of their website, but they have prices per sq ft listed (for jobs over 1,000 sq ft, includes demo/install) based on the paver you select.

http://www.gopavers.com/pavers-collection/
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on March 20, 2014, 12:26:21 AM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on March 20, 2014, 12:44:50 AM
Qwerty - yep I looked at the collections and prices... some of the pics I agree with bones that something about the finished product just looks a bit well... unfinished, other pics look pretty good.  Does sound like their pricing is reasonable though so definitely worth a look and an estimate. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on March 20, 2014, 09:31:42 PM
What do you guys think of Travertine for outdoor flooring?  Pros cons?  it's a more clean look IMO.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 21, 2014, 12:06:19 PM
As I am still searching for landscaper, I changed my criteria.
Before it used to be the price. But now after reading the previous posts - the quality sacrificed and the time frame is unreasonable.

In business - reputation goes along way. Which should be applied to landscaping.  I can't get over the drainage problem, quality problem, unlicensed, and time issue. (Regarding the landscaper mentioned previous)

There is risk you take on when the contractor is not licensed and insured. If one of the workers slips, hurts his back etc.. - he can come after the home owner.

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on March 21, 2014, 02:46:55 PM
As I am still searching for landscaper, I changed my criteria.
Before it used to be the price. But now after reading the previous posts - the quality sacrificed and the time frame is unreasonable.

In business - reputation goes along way. Which should be applied to landscaping.  I can't get over the drainage problem, quality problem, unlicensed, and time issue. (Regarding the landscaper mentioned previous)

There is risk you take on when the contractor is not licensed and insured. If one of the workers slips, hurts his back etc.. - he can come after the home owner.



for timeliness go with gopavers.com  - although some folks didnt think the finished pics on their site were great, not sure i agree with that, i thought they looked pretty good.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on March 21, 2014, 03:09:17 PM
If I go new, I would give GoPavers a try... they are Homie/Qwerchete approved.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on March 21, 2014, 06:22:39 PM
What do you guys think of Travertine for outdoor flooring?  Pros cons?  it's a more clean look IMO.

too slippery when wet...hazard for my kids...but it looks great.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on March 21, 2014, 07:36:00 PM
A couple of my neighbors have it and it does look nice
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 22, 2014, 12:25:44 PM
I met with go pavers. Very professional. He was also dressed professional. (Shirt tie and slacks) After he measured the backyard - he gave a presentation. Which consists of the following: design layout, video of laying paver process, video of the big paver manufactures recommending go pavers, showed me examples of past projects on his laptop. I learned go pavers won super service awards 2011 2012 2013 from Angie's list. He showed me a copy of the license, bond and insurance. Lastly, he told me the job will take 3 days. (Say what!)

In addition, when he was talking about the design for the backyard, he asked if I like the circle design. If so, he can include it with no extra charge. (This is a super plus)

For the price it's very competitive as the other small landscapers I met.

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on March 22, 2014, 02:38:27 PM
Eyephone - what timelines were you getting from other contractors for your pavers?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 22, 2014, 02:39:06 PM
Eyephone - what timelines were you getting from other contractors for your pavers?
2-3 weeks
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on March 22, 2014, 02:44:48 PM
Eyephone - what timelines were you getting from other contractors for your pavers?
2-3 weeks

Which is more like 3-5 weeks. Good luck with whoever u choose.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 25, 2014, 07:54:48 AM
I'm not going with go pavers. They quoted me at $10 a sq ft. I got other quotes at $8 sq ft. (That are licensed and have insurance) Other factors I want to hire a landscaper that can do it all not just lay down pavers. That can do the following: plant knowledge, sprinklers, add lights, etc


Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on March 25, 2014, 01:26:47 PM
I'm not going with go pavers. They quoted me at $10 a sq ft. I got other quotes at $8 sq ft. (That are licensed and have insurance) Other factors I want to hire a landscaper that can do it all not just lay down pavers. That can do the following: plant knowledge, sprinklers, add lights, etc

who are you going with?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 25, 2014, 02:55:10 PM
I'm not going with go pavers. They quoted me at $10 a sq ft. I got other quotes at $8 sq ft. (That are licensed and have insurance) Other factors I want to hire a landscaper that can do it all not just lay down pavers. That can do the following: plant knowledge, sprinklers, add lights, etc

who are you going with?

Still deciding. This process is making me go crazy.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on March 25, 2014, 04:04:28 PM
I'm not going with go pavers. They quoted me at $10 a sq ft. I got other quotes at $8 sq ft. (That are licensed and have insurance) Other factors I want to hire a landscaper that can do it all not just lay down pavers. That can do the following: plant knowledge, sprinklers, add lights, etc

They raised their pricing.  GoPavers quoted me $8.  I did like what they showed me but like you I wanted someone who can do it all. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on March 27, 2014, 05:19:18 PM
Thanks for your feedback

It took 2.5 months? (wow - you must have a lot of upgrades - BBQ, fire pit?)

That's the sad part.  All I had done are antique cobble pavers and my 2 feet along the wall that HOA requires.  But after initial debacle his crew made, we had to pull everything up and re-lay the pavers down.  Forgot putting the weed block under the pavers, I started in mid Oct, during Thanksgiving and X-mas break they disappeared on me. for about 2 weeks each.  Picked the wrong plants that I asked for.  I called Mahe with each error and he corrected it, but if I just micro managed them in the beginning I could have saved myself time and headache.

Don't get me wrong, Mahe and Sam are super nice guys...and they will fix the problem.  They won't run out on you, or try to cheat you.  But Sam isn't the greatest project manager, and Mahe isn't always around.

Yes, you are right.  I never got the impression that Mahe will walk away and rip me off.  My problem really is the same as yours.  I feel I have to micromanage every step of the way to make sure it is moving along.  I have no doubt that our landscaping will turn out great because of the development I am seeing.  Mahe promised me end of the month it will be done.  We'll see.

FYI - when I signed the contract, it wasn't Aloha Landscaping on the contract.  It was just Mahe's name.

I am beyond frustrated.  No work has been done on our landscaping this week.  I called Mahe 3x on different occasions and I still have not been able to talk to him.   He promised this job will be done in 3 weeks, it's now more than 1.5 months, oh my gawd.  To those even considering Mahe Laivaa/Aloha Landscaping - BEWARE!!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on March 27, 2014, 05:22:59 PM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Irvinecommuter on March 27, 2014, 05:25:49 PM
@RCV:   The thank you was not for the situation but for you sharing.  Glad I didn't go with him...still searching.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Ready2Downsize on March 27, 2014, 06:15:26 PM
Haven't read the whole thread, but I can say from your post, we had this problem with our landscaper in 1999. They had gobs of work and they started quick enough but it dragged on and nothing was getting done. I found the landscaper on newer projects, older projects not done.

What was happening, was the landscaper was getting up front money, starting jobs, getting more upfront money from other jobs, etc and the old ones were not getting done.

I finally told them (twice) I would contact the contractors board and the BBB and still nothing was done............................. till they were indeed investigated.

THEN the job got done.

Neighbors were complaining and asking how I got my job done and I told them and they didn't want to cause any problems....................... till they too were upset.

You guessed it......... reporting them was the only way their job was completed. Company eventually went out of biz and this was a reputable company that had LOTS of biz in the last housing boom.............. NOT the downturn.

Just saying..... you might want to light a match.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on March 27, 2014, 06:33:15 PM
@RCV:   The thank you was not for the situation but for you sharing.  Glad I didn't go with him...still searching.

No problem.  I am sharing this to everyone as a warning so you guys don't have to experience the same problem I am having.  Fortunately, the work isn't inside our home, otherwise, I would have gotten nuts in the first week.

@bones - discount would be great. I'll keep that in mind.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on March 27, 2014, 06:35:06 PM
Haven't read the whole thread, but I can say from your post, we had this problem with our landscaper in 1999. They had gobs of work and they started quick enough but it dragged on and nothing was getting done. I found the landscaper on newer projects, older projects not done.

What was happening, was the landscaper was getting up front money, starting jobs, getting more upfront money from other jobs, etc and the old ones were not getting done.

I finally told them (twice) I would contact the contractors board and the BBB and still nothing was done............................. till they were indeed investigated.

THEN the job got done.

Neighbors were complaining and asking how I got my job done and I told them and they didn't want to cause any problems....................... till they too were upset.

You guessed it......... reporting them was the only way their job was completed. Company eventually went out of biz and this was a reputable company that had LOTS of biz in the last housing boom.............. NOT the downturn.

Just saying..... you might want to light a match.

I'll give him another week.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on March 27, 2014, 06:43:44 PM
Good luck...it's annoying that all these quality contractors are no longer reliable.  I hate putting my name out there for someone who's going to turn to crap.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: i1 on March 27, 2014, 07:54:24 PM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on March 27, 2014, 08:41:38 PM
With all the new home being built, all the landscaping companies are getting very busy.  I think it would be wise to ask the landscaper how many jobs they are taken on currently and how many jobs are in the pipeline.  Maybe be one should also ask to put a reasonable deadline in the contract just in case since landscaper's past performance does not guarantee future results.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on March 27, 2014, 08:51:29 PM
I have a guy that is pretty reliable but he won't be able to help you with design. Pm if you want his contact info.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on March 27, 2014, 08:53:47 PM
maybe a better way is to backload the payments. you can accompany them and pay for the materials yourself and backload the labor payments.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on March 27, 2014, 08:54:46 PM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 27, 2014, 08:57:48 PM
I have a guy that is pretty reliable but he won't be able to help you with design. Pm if you want his contact info.

Is he licensed?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on March 27, 2014, 09:03:54 PM
Yup.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 28, 2014, 09:34:38 AM
Thanks for your feedback

It took 2.5 months? (wow - you must have a lot of upgrades - BBQ, fire pit?)

That's the sad part.  All I had done are antique cobble pavers and my 2 feet along the wall that HOA requires.  But after initial debacle his crew made, we had to pull everything up and re-lay the pavers down.  Forgot putting the weed block under the pavers, I started in mid Oct, during Thanksgiving and X-mas break they disappeared on me. for about 2 weeks each.  Picked the wrong plants that I asked for.  I called Mahe with each error and he corrected it, but if I just micro managed them in the beginning I could have saved myself time and headache.

Don't get me wrong, Mahe and Sam are super nice guys...and they will fix the problem.  They won't run out on you, or try to cheat you.  But Sam isn't the greatest project manager, and Mahe isn't always around.

Yes, you are right.  I never got the impression that Mahe will walk away and rip me off.  My problem really is the same as yours.  I feel I have to micromanage every step of the way to make sure it is moving along.  I have no doubt that our landscaping will turn out great because of the development I am seeing.  Mahe promised me end of the month it will be done.  We'll see.

FYI - when I signed the contract, it wasn't Aloha Landscaping on the contract.  It was just Mahe's name.

I am beyond frustrated.  No work has been done on our landscaping this week.  I called Mahe 3x on different occasions and I still have not been able to talk to him.   He promised this job will be done in 3 weeks, it's now more than 1.5 months, oh my gawd.  To those even considering Mahe Laivaa/Aloha Landscaping - BEWARE!!
Sounds like your on the 2.5 month plan.

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on March 28, 2014, 11:02:00 AM
Hmmmmm, this is interesting.

vonwrede use Land Reform Construction for his backyard last year.
I used Land Reform Construction for my backyard.  They do a lot of new homes and take it from just dirt to a backyard oasis.  Kendall (owner) is always really fast and they have a guaranteed finish date, if they don't finish on time they will pay you per day that its not finished.  I've referred a few people and everyone loves them not including the "friends of clients" discount they passed along to my friends.  Tell them Philip referred you.  Check out  http://landreformconstruction.com to see their pics.  Also the number is  949-433-6545.

Now, vonwrede modified his thread and said he used Resort Style Backyard for his backyard.
I used Resort Style Backyards for my backyard.  They do a lot of new homes and take it from just dirt to a backyard oasis.  The contractors were very professional and they have a guaranteed finish date.  I've referred a few people and everyone loves them not including the "friends of clients" discount they passed along to my friends.  Tell them Philip referred you.  Check out  http://ResortStyleBackyards.com to see their pics.  Also the number is  949-306-5347

So the Land Reform Construction became Resort Style Back Yard?  I wonder why the company decided to change the name.

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on March 28, 2014, 11:17:51 AM
HAHA, glad I'm not the only one who noticed it.  I didn't want to pick on the guy since I was the one riding him about promoting Land Reform so hard.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Irvinecommuter on March 28, 2014, 11:44:02 AM
Hmmmmm, this is interesting.

vonwrede use Land Reform Construction for his backyard last year.
I used Land Reform Construction for my backyard.  They do a lot of new homes and take it from just dirt to a backyard oasis.  Kendall (owner) is always really fast and they have a guaranteed finish date, if they don't finish on time they will pay you per day that its not finished.  I've referred a few people and everyone loves them not including the "friends of clients" discount they passed along to my friends.  Tell them Philip referred you.  Check out  http://landreformconstruction.com to see their pics.  Also the number is  949-433-6545.

Now, vonwrede modified his thread and said he used Resort Style Backyard for his backyard.
I used Resort Style Backyards for my backyard.  They do a lot of new homes and take it from just dirt to a backyard oasis.  The contractors were very professional and they have a guaranteed finish date.  I've referred a few people and everyone loves them not including the "friends of clients" discount they passed along to my friends.  Tell them Philip referred you.  Check out  http://ResortStyleBackyards.com to see their pics.  Also the number is  949-306-5347

So the Land Reform Construction became Resort Style Back Yard?  I wonder why the company decided to change the name.

Maybe it was just a typo.  I meet with the Land Reform guy last week...still Land Reform.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on March 28, 2014, 12:39:59 PM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on April 04, 2014, 05:40:58 PM
I am pleased to let you guys know that our landscaping is done!.. well, almost.  The only thing left is to seal the floor and the approval of our landscaping plan.   Our landscaping turned out so beautiful that I almost forgot all the frustrations I had with the delays on this project. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on April 04, 2014, 05:50:38 PM
Congrats rcv. How bout some pics?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on April 07, 2014, 05:48:38 PM
I want to post pics but changed my mind because I don't want in anyway to advertise the contractors' work due to all the delays in construction.  I probably jinxed myself by posting the last post because since then, the water pump on the waterfall won't work and the lights on the pilaster won't work either.  I called and texted Mahe on friday, called again on saturday and he said he'll fix it monday (which is today).  I got home now and guess what? Of course it isn't fixed.  The problem I see here is he is not managing customer's expectations.  He is overpromising and underdelivering.  Had he said, I'll fix it by next friday, I probably would have been OK with that.  Instead, he chose to say Monday, and opted to consistently dissappoint me. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on April 07, 2014, 10:02:04 PM
RCV - so from a scale of 1-10 (ten being the highest) what would you give him?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on April 08, 2014, 09:07:03 AM
RCV - so from a scale of 1-10 (ten being the highest) what would you give him?

I'll give him a 2 - and that is me being generous.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on April 08, 2014, 02:26:47 PM
RCV - so from a scale of 1-10 (ten being the highest) what would you give him?

I'll give him a 2 - and that is me being generous.
Interesting

How much did you pay?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on April 08, 2014, 02:41:35 PM
wow...that's rough...and you liked your backyard.  I give him a 2 and I don't like the timeline or the work.

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on April 08, 2014, 03:56:31 PM
wow...that's rough...and you liked your backyard.  I give him a 2 and I don't like the timeline or the work.

To me, it's about the overall experience.  Yes, aesthetically, the backyard is nice, but i am certain I could have gotten the same quality from somewhere else, minus the frustration.  After the work is done, the customer service is not over.  Like now, I need something fixed and I cannot rely on him getting the work done without me having to follow up multiple times.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on April 08, 2014, 03:58:49 PM
RCV - so from a scale of 1-10 (ten being the highest) what would you give him?

I'll give him a 2 - and that is me being generous.
Interesting

How much did you pay?

Unfortunately, I feel I paid more than the value of what I got.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on April 08, 2014, 04:13:35 PM
Just left the Costco at the district and at the front entrance they have a bunch of those LED dimmable lights for $10 you guys were talking about
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: GH on April 08, 2014, 04:16:25 PM
Just left the Costco at the district and at the front entrance they have a bunch of those LED dimmable lights for $10 you guys were talking about

thanks qwerty, will drop by after work and try to grab a couple :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 08, 2014, 04:24:31 PM
Just left the Costco at the district and at the front entrance they have a bunch of those LED dimmable lights for $10 you guys were talking about
Wrong thread homeslice!!!!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on April 08, 2014, 04:33:32 PM
RCV - so from a scale of 1-10 (ten being the highest) what would you give him?

I'll give him a 2 - and that is me being generous.
Interesting

How much did you pay?

Unfortunately, I feel I paid more than the value of what I got.

How about ballpark range? (Such as less than 10, etc..)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on April 08, 2014, 04:40:42 PM
Just left the Costco at the district and at the front entrance they have a bunch of those LED dimmable lights for $10 you guys were talking about
Wrong thread homeslice!!!!

I know, couldn't  remember the thread and I don't have the search skills u guys do
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on April 08, 2014, 04:53:10 PM
You should have bought them all out and sold them to ps9 for $15. :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on April 08, 2014, 05:02:45 PM
You should have bought them all out and sold them to ps9 for $15. :)

Good idea, I'm only five minutes away, heading back now.

GH - the price just went up :-)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: broda on April 09, 2014, 11:59:54 AM
wow...that's rough...and you liked your backyard.  I give him a 2 and I don't like the timeline or the work.

To me, it's about the overall experience.  Yes, aesthetically, the backyard is nice, but i am certain I could have gotten the same quality from somewhere else, minus the frustration.  After the work is done, the customer service is not over.  Like now, I need something fixed and I cannot rely on him getting the work done without me having to follow up multiple times.

I have to agree about the overall experience.  Took 2 weeks of bugging him to submit my plans, gave me some wrong trees.  At this point i didn't even care to have him fix the plants because I was just tired of his crew being at my place.  The worst part is now that I started testing patio furniture the leveling is off so my chair wobbles.  Little things I couldn't visibly see...lesson learned.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RCV on April 09, 2014, 12:30:57 PM
RCV - so from a scale of 1-10 (ten being the highest) what would you give him?

I'll give him a 2 - and that is me being generous.
Interesting

How much did you pay?

Unfortunately, I feel I paid more than the value of what I got.

How about ballpark range? (Such as less than 10, etc..)

More than 10..
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on April 11, 2014, 09:32:21 AM
RCV - so from a scale of 1-10 (ten being the highest) what would you give him?

I'll give him a 2 - and that is me being generous.
Interesting

How much did you pay?

Unfortunately, I feel I paid more than the value of what I got.

How about ballpark range? (Such as less than 10, etc..)

More than 10..

10 plus dot dot ( does that mean you paid 12)  ;)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: gadgetguy on May 09, 2014, 10:19:45 AM
I am pleased to let you guys know that our landscaping is done!.. well, almost.  The only thing left is to seal the floor and the approval of our landscaping plan.   Our landscaping turned out so beautiful that I almost forgot all the frustrations I had with the delays on this project.

Hi All, new to TI... Are a lot of people starting work before getting approval from HOA?  Is anyone "pushing the envelope" or is the norm to be conservative with your plans?  For example, with setbacks or ratio of hardscape to plants?

TIA.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on May 09, 2014, 01:40:28 PM
Hi All, new to TI... Are a lot of people starting work before getting approval from HOA?  Is anyone "pushing the envelope" or is the norm to be conservative with your plans?  For example, with setbacks or ratio of hardscape to plants?

TIA.

Please don't starting work before HOA approval.  Here's quote from another thread about this.

just curious, what's the worst case scenario if you proceed landscaping project without submitting a plan to HOA ?
our HOA is getting ridiculous by increasing the review cost 50% starting April 1 and added some weird rules to restrict a lot of things to be done.

LOL, I had a work acquaintance do this once.

Step 1: they send you a letter to correct. (pull it all out and submit plans)
Step 2: you refuse
Step 3: while at work, they send a landscaper to correct for you.
Step 4: they send you the bill.


It really depends on the HOA board and the committee heading the review/compliance.  If there's a Napoleon, you'll have problem.  If they're reasonable, you'll just get a fine.  Unfortunately, smaller HOAs can have challenges with people getting on committees that treat each person's request as their own personal home design opportunity.
http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,3844.0.html
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on May 09, 2014, 04:47:04 PM
Real men don't acknowledge HOAs
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: . on May 09, 2014, 05:11:25 PM
Real men don't acknowledge HOAs

I like that...

so, my understanding here is
1. no aloha.
2. go with go paver

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on May 09, 2014, 05:15:51 PM
Real men don't acknowledge HOAs

I like that...

so, my understanding here is
1. no aloha.
2. go with go paver



I used both and very happy with both. But others here had issues with aloha.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on May 09, 2014, 06:57:36 PM
Real men don't acknowledge HOAs

And this is what happen....

I still haven't submitted my plans and the work was done in Feb/2012. Though I have been fined 100 in January which I paid. They skipped February and charged me 200 I'm march. Not going to pay the 200 though and I'll submit my plans later this week. I think they will waive the 200 (hopefully).
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on May 09, 2014, 07:00:24 PM
Friday 5/9 - still no plans submitted. $300 in cumulative fines.

Like I said, real men don't acknowledge hoa's  :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 09, 2014, 07:33:19 PM
qwerchete thinks it's extra mello roos.

Plus he's in Tustin... more lax than Irvine. If it was Irvine, they would have sent a landscaper to fix it and charge for the work.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on May 09, 2014, 07:48:34 PM
Friday 5/9 - still no plans submitted. $300 in cumulative fines.

Like I said, real men don't acknowledge hoa's  :)

Qwerty vs HOA


Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on May 09, 2014, 08:07:14 PM
Friday 5/9 - still no plans submitted. $300 in cumulative fines.

Like I said, real men don't acknowledge hoa's  :)

Qwerty vs HOA




That's an awesome pic. I'm going to blow that up and then over the Great Dane I will put my name, qwerty, and over the chihuahua I will put "you" and have it framed and put it on the credenza behind me in my office. That way
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on May 09, 2014, 08:11:34 PM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on May 09, 2014, 08:37:32 PM
Real men don't acknowledge HOAs

I like that...

so, my understanding here is
1. no aloha.
2. go with go paver

I guess you misunderstood. I would go with neither.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 10, 2014, 09:34:54 AM
Wait... I thought qwerchete was the chihuahua.

:)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on May 10, 2014, 12:40:59 PM
Wait... I thought qwerchete was the chihuahua.

:)

LOL, it can go both ways  but that great dane is the one carrying the big bat. :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on May 30, 2014, 11:43:16 PM
So I've mocked up what I want to do in my yard, right now it's just dirt and a small patch of concrete near the slider.  My budget is pretty low so I wanted to keep the design simple.

I've attached it to this post - any guesses on what king of pricing i'll be looking at?

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on May 31, 2014, 12:24:03 AM
I think I paid about $2 per sq ft of sod to get it installed. I think the sprinklers were another couple of hundred. For pavers estimate around 10/sq ft. For cement estimate $6-$10 sq ft

Those concrete squares could increase your cost (more labor to frame the cement) - probably cheaper to do all pavers.

You should contact go pavers and get a quote.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on May 31, 2014, 12:42:39 AM
Ya the numbers add up quick... curse you large lot!  :)

I'm definitely contacting go pavers, also probably will try aloha pavers (not the mahe aloha) and a couple other recommendations from friends.  I want to see about doing those large concrete squares, I really like the look.  I'm willing to pay for it, to a point.

Qwerty do you know if go pavers does spinklers and/or lighting, or just pavers and turf? 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on May 31, 2014, 12:43:27 AM
(del) double post
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on May 31, 2014, 01:10:24 AM
Go pavers did my sprinklers - I didn't do lights but that is something they offer. They will also take you to the nursery they use so you can pick out your plants and get the better pricing. It's been 1.5 years almost and no issues with the their work. Good luck man. That's a big ass yard. Mine is 25 ft at its deepest and 55 at its longest.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on May 31, 2014, 07:49:27 AM
For lights I would go solar as opposed to low voltage wired.

It's DIY, you can change the design and layout if you need to and less maintenance.

31ft setback... you can fit another TIC home in there.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on May 31, 2014, 07:59:16 AM
Solar lights are not that bright.

I bought solar lights from Costco to test it out. I am returning it - waste of my time.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on June 09, 2014, 11:19:29 AM
Finally started my landscaper/hardscaper search and have a few bids coming in with the next 1-2 weeks.  I've had 4 consultations and plan on getting 2-3 more before making my decision.

Very interesting experience.  One thing I couldn't believe is that none of the ones I interviewed so far showed pictures of their work without asking.  I asked 3 of the 4 landscapers for pictures - 1 didn't have any (except a couple on his phone) and the other 2 had images.  One on his iPad and the other in a photo album.  It was like pulling teeth to get this, but once their pictures came out it got me very excited about the yard and gave me more ideas about picking and choosing certain things to do in certain area's. 

All these guys are trying to sell me on a luxurious back yard experience.  They should have brought out pictures or images to begin with and said "we can do this here", and "add some stone like this" in this area, etc... Without that I really have a hard time visualizing what things will look like. 

That being said they mostly seemed capable and I'm anxious to see how far apart all their quotes are.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on June 09, 2014, 08:46:19 PM
Let me know. I'm starting the process now of getting quotes.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on June 09, 2014, 08:54:34 PM
Sure thing... 2 of the 4 I really like their work a lot.  They are recommendations from my wife's friend and do most jobs in Yorba Linda / Placentia area.  I'm hoping this makes their prices a bit more reasonable but not sure if they'll add on any Irvine tax.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on June 09, 2014, 09:48:15 PM
Just went through the HOA guidelines.. my first time for a new home. 

Oddly, they know their procedures are whack but are telling me to submit my plans to have a SAT dish up with my landscaping.. since there is a $250 fee.  They know we shouldn't be charged a fee for the dish but it's in their guidelines right now.  weird.

I want to see how detailed the drawings have to be for the design work?  My vision is pretty basic.  Concrete.. with planters all along the back and then turf on the other side yard. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeshopper on June 09, 2014, 09:50:11 PM
I would not recommend the area outside your active living space be 2 different materials. The grass grid area is a nightmare to maintain and impossible to furnish. The legs could never be balanced correctly. In your design only 1/2 of the area get used and if you throw a large party with that amazing large yard you will be disappointed with the small usable area. The interlocking pavers behind the garage is not appropriately placed. No one like to hang out behind the garage. I have a lot of grass grid at my California place but I kept them below the tree canopy to keeping the grass cool. Irvine heat could heat the concrete slab to 140% and the heat will kill the narrow strip of grass. They are really hard to maintain. If you try to water them the water will just evaporate quickly. I have it at various places and I recommend don't do it. Here is a rule or hierarchy to follow. Interlocking pavers for high traffic area and grass grid for light or no traffic.

Here is a picture depicting a portion of my yard and the grass grid is at the foreground.

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i340/irvinehomeshopper/IHSyard_zps51b31e26.jpg)   
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ZeroLot on June 09, 2014, 09:53:44 PM
Just went through the HOA guidelines.. my first time for a new home. 

Oddly, they know their procedures are whack but are telling me to submit my plans to have a SAT dish up with my landscaping.. since there is a $250 fee.  They know we shouldn't be charged a fee for the dish but it's in their guidelines right now.  weird.


That is weird.  A hoa fee for setting up a SAT dish?  Do you get a discount if you submit 2 plans at the same time?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on June 09, 2014, 10:03:08 PM
Nice pic

What type of tree is it?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on June 09, 2014, 10:05:55 PM
Just went through the HOA guidelines.. my first time for a new home. 

Oddly, they know their procedures are whack but are telling me to submit my plans to have a SAT dish up with my landscaping.. since there is a $250 fee.  They know we shouldn't be charged a fee for the dish but it's in their guidelines right now.  weird.


That is weird.  A hoa fee for setting up a SAT dish?  Do you get a discount if you submit 2 plans at the same time?

So it's just a one time fee.. so they told me to do it all together.  Now I have to just get my plans in right away to have SAT TV.  lol.  They are aware of this issue and are trying to fix it.  Kind of odd.. can't you just fix it?  HOAs man.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on June 09, 2014, 10:38:21 PM
Don't worry jmoney I live in your hood and all my neighbors put up their sat dishes with no HOA approval.  I'm also thinking of going Directv soon and I don't plan on filing.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on June 09, 2014, 10:49:05 PM
Don't worry jmoney I live in your hood and all my neighbors put up their sat dishes with no HOA approval.  I'm also thinking of going Directv soon and I don't plan on filing.

ALERT! REPORT!  ;)

interesting.  Yeah.. I have to go Direct TV.  My buddies and I share one account.  lol. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on June 09, 2014, 10:57:38 PM
Don't worry jmoney I live in your hood and all my neighbors put up their sat dishes with no HOA approval.  I'm also thinking of going Directv soon and I don't plan on filing.

ALERT! REPORT!  ;)

interesting.  Yeah.. I have to go Direct TV.  My buddies and I share one account.  lol. 

Sounds like you're the one who needs to have the Alert Report sounded ;)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on June 09, 2014, 11:04:41 PM
Don't worry jmoney I live in your hood and all my neighbors put up their sat dishes with no HOA approval.  I'm also thinking of going Directv soon and I don't plan on filing.

ALERT! REPORT!  ;)

interesting.  Yeah.. I have to go Direct TV.  My buddies and I share one account.  lol. 

Sounds like you're the one who needs to have the Alert Report sounded ;)

it's the only way to combat the broadcasting companies and their price hikes. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: . on June 11, 2014, 08:03:49 AM
I had a price quote of 28K.  This is for front and backyard.  I asked around my neighbors and their price quote is around this range...   :(

Btw, in my price quote, the sprinkle system is around 3k.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on June 11, 2014, 12:07:04 PM
I had a price quote of 28K.  This is for front and backyard.  I asked around my neighbors and their price quote is around this range...   :(

Btw, in my price quote, the sprinkle system is around 3k.

You must of got a big lot in PP.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: . on June 11, 2014, 12:51:23 PM
Don't worry jmoney I live in your hood and all my neighbors put up their sat dishes with no HOA approval.  I'm also thinking of going Directv soon and I don't plan on filing.

ALERT! REPORT!  ;)

interesting.  Yeah.. I have to go Direct TV.  My buddies and I share one account.  lol.

I work for directv.  if you guys are interested w/ directv.  i can hook you up with $10 dollars off each month with "friend/family program".  Please PM me.

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on June 11, 2014, 06:02:37 PM
Don't worry jmoney I live in your hood and all my neighbors put up their sat dishes with no HOA approval.  I'm also thinking of going Directv soon and I don't plan on filing.

ALERT! REPORT!  ;)

interesting.  Yeah.. I have to go Direct TV.  My buddies and I share one account.  lol.

I work for directv.  if you guys are interested w/ directv.  i can hook you up with $10 dollars off each month with "friend/family program".  Please PM me.



Yaliu, can we get $10 off each month in combination with Costco $200 cash card offer?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on June 11, 2014, 08:15:17 PM
I had a price quote of 28K.  This is for front and backyard.  I asked around my neighbors and their price quote is around this range...   :(

Btw, in my price quote, the sprinkle system is around 3k.

For 28k it better come with a built in BBQ, raised planters, fire pit, landscaping lights, plants, drainage, water feature, pavers, grass or artificial grass.

You have to play hardball. I would even get separate quotes - back and front.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on June 11, 2014, 08:23:52 PM
I had a price quote of 28K.  This is for front and backyard.  I asked around my neighbors and their price quote is around this range...   :(

Btw, in my price quote, the sprinkle system is around 3k.

For 28k it better come with a built in BBQ, raised planters, fire pit, landscaping lights, plants, drainage, water feature, pavers, grass or artificial grass.

You have to play hardball. I would even get separate quotes - back and front.

I wish someone on TI would recommend an affordable quality landscaper. Not ready to drop 40K on my yard.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on June 12, 2014, 10:45:54 PM
I should start up my own landscaping company called... Affordable yet decent HOA approved style backyards
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: GH on June 13, 2014, 09:06:53 AM
I had a price quote of 28K.  This is for front and backyard.  I asked around my neighbors and their price quote is around this range...   :(

Btw, in my price quote, the sprinkle system is around 3k.

For 28k it better come with a built in BBQ, raised planters, fire pit, landscaping lights, plants, drainage, water feature, pavers, grass or artificial grass.

You have to play hardball. I would even get separate quotes - back and front.

I wish someone on TI would recommend an affordable quality landscaper. Not ready to drop 40K on my yard.

You should have bought tiny lots  :P
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: rain on June 20, 2014, 06:16:00 PM
the best way to save money is to have the landscape do most of the work and then sue them for low quality and then you can get most of yr money back.

i heard one home owner stopped paying part of the agreed payment after the landscaping is done with all the plants planted and then sued the contractor for some minor hairline cracker in the concrete. and guess what, the court ordered the contractor to pay back a few grand to the home owner which means they spent less than half of what they should pay and got everything done.

personally, i just feel that this is a little unfair to the contractor. which concrete don't have hairline cracks.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Tarmacpro on June 20, 2014, 10:21:26 PM
This is a horrible post!!!  You should be ashamed of yourself!!!  I'm not sure what you do for a living but I hope one of your customers rips you off so that you get a taste of your own dishonesty.

the best way to save money is to have the landscape do most of the work and then sue them for low quality and then you can get most of yr money back.

i heard one home owner stopped paying part of the agreed payment after the landscaping is done with all the plants planted and then sued the contractor for some minor hairline cracker in the concrete. and guess what, the court ordered the contractor to pay back a few grand to the home owner which means they spent less than half of what they should pay and got everything done.

personally, i just feel that this is a little unfair to the contractor. which concrete don't have hairline cracks.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: rain on June 20, 2014, 11:03:08 PM
don't get me wrong.
i was just trying to be sarcastic and i don't agree with that home owner at all.
sorry i didn't make it clear enough.

anyway, i feel really bad for that contractor.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on June 20, 2014, 11:22:09 PM
don't get me wrong.
i was just trying to be sarcastic and i don't agree with that home owner at all.
sorry i didn't make it clear enough.

anyway, i feel really bad for that contractor.

I got the sarcasm but yeah.. Wasn't that obvious. Lol
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Tarmacpro on June 21, 2014, 11:04:48 PM
Duh! If I only read the previous 11 pages of this thread maybe I would have understood your humor.  My bad!

don't get me wrong.
i was just trying to be sarcastic and i don't agree with that home owner at all.
sorry i didn't make it clear enough.

anyway, i feel really bad for that contractor.

I got the sarcasm but yeah.. Wasn't that obvious. Lol
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on June 22, 2014, 11:09:54 PM
the best way to save money is to have the landscape do most of the work and then sue them for low quality and then you can get most of yr money back.

i heard one home owner stopped paying part of the agreed payment after the landscaping is done with all the plants planted and then sued the contractor for some minor hairline cracker in the concrete. and guess what, the court ordered the contractor to pay back a few grand to the home owner which means they spent less than half of what they should pay and got everything done.

personally, i just feel that this is a little unfair to the contractor. which concrete don't have hairline cracks.

Hmm - I don't believe in your theory how to rip off people.
However the contractor should be accountable for their work.


Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: . on June 24, 2014, 12:26:46 PM
I talked w/ landscaping company last night.  11.2K for front and backyard.

here is the breakdown
$2800 for concrete
$3000 for glass
$1800 for soil prep + sprinklers
$1800 for drainage
$1800 for 2 tree and 50g plants
$800 for design (will waive if hire them to do the work)
$11.2K
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on June 24, 2014, 12:30:59 PM
I talked w/ landscaping company last night.  11.2K for front and backyard.
So far, the ZeroLot 5-Figure Landscape Price is holding.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: GH on June 24, 2014, 12:31:34 PM
I talked w/ landscaping company last night.  11.2K for front and backyard.

here is the breakdown
$2800 for concrete
$3000 for glass
$1800 for soil prep + sprinklers
$1800 for drainage
$1800 for 2 tree and 50g plants
$800 for design (will waive if hire them to do the work)
$11.2K

about how big (sq ft) is your yard ?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on June 24, 2014, 12:37:40 PM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: GH on June 24, 2014, 12:43:34 PM
Speaking of landscaping.. anybody heard or used landscape locator (http://www.landscapelocators.net/) ?  It was introduced to me by a neighbor.  They are basically a middle man so that you only need to meet with them and they bid out your designs to their contractor networks..
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on June 24, 2014, 11:33:17 PM
I talked w/ landscaping company last night.  11.2K for front and backyard.

here is the breakdown
$2800 for concrete
$3000 for glass
$1800 for soil prep + sprinklers
$1800 for drainage
$1800 for 2 tree and 50g plants
$800 for design (will waive if hire them to do the work)
$11.2K

Not bad... Can you let me know the size of your yard/yards?

I'm assuming you mean grass and not glass?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on June 24, 2014, 11:38:24 PM
I talked w/ landscaping company last night.  11.2K for front and backyard.

here is the breakdown
$2800 for concrete
$3000 for glass
$1800 for soil prep + sprinklers
$1800 for drainage
$1800 for 2 tree and 50g plants
$800 for design (will waive if hire them to do the work)
$11.2K

Not bad... Can you let me know the size of your yard/yards?

I'm assuming you mean grass and not glass?

wow that sounds really cheap... have to see the work though and would need to know size of yard like people are asking.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on June 24, 2014, 11:42:59 PM
I talked w/ landscaping company last night.  11.2K for front and backyard.

here is the breakdown
$2800 for concrete
$3000 for glass
$1800 for soil prep + sprinklers
$1800 for drainage
$1800 for 2 tree and 50g plants
$800 for design (will waive if hire them to do the work)
$11.2K

Not bad... Can you let me know the size of your yard/yards?

I'm assuming you mean grass and not glass?

wow that sounds really cheap... have to see the work though and would need to know size of yard like people are asking.

Yeah - it sounds like a good deal.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ZeroLot on June 27, 2014, 06:14:18 PM
I talked w/ landscaping company last night.  11.2K for front and backyard.
So far, the ZeroLot 5-Figure Landscape Price is holding.

Was there ever any doubt?  I put my official seal of approval on this comment.   ;D

Also I just learned a bit more about pavers.  The thickness of the pavers determines durability and quality.  Thin pavers are cheap and will crack easily.  If someone is quoting you a price on pavers make sure to ask if it's going to be low, medium, or high end pavers you are paying for.

Also installation is a huge variance.  I watched KS Landscaping install pavers and my goodness that guy was METICULOUS!  Sand, hammer, level, sand, hammer, level, sand, hammer, re-sand, measure with pink line again, sand, hammer, level, etc.  No paver was left unmeasured with that massive level.  I have about 800+ pieces of pavers in my backyard due to it's 5 different sizes.  Even the cute 6"x6" paver got it's own level measurement.

Meanwhile I've seen other installers in other backyard projects just sand and hammer and hope for the best it's even.  So when shopping for a paving project make sure you get a quality installer with quality pavers.  It'll save you headache down the road when it rains.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: . on July 02, 2014, 08:16:57 AM
Got another quote today

ItemQtyUnitUnit PriceTotal
Front of House
Grass areas275SF3894
Concrete utility path to side yard gate75SF8600
Tile over exiting concrete85SF121020
Driveway widening72SF8576
Two 15-gallon trees2EA150300
Rear of House
Concrete in side yard125SF81000
Small grass area70SF3210
Stone flatwork in rear yard456SF167296
Veggie garden soil prep1350SF22700
2' planter - bender board and soil prep114SF2.25257
Raised planter along brick wall40LF451800
Gneral construction
Demo/trench/grade2078SF12078
Plant/Irrigation Install1EA27502750
Plant costs1EA12001200
Grant total22680
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on July 02, 2014, 08:49:50 AM
can you publish their contact info?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on July 02, 2014, 08:51:39 AM
[;pjkk
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: gadgetguy on July 07, 2014, 11:03:55 AM
Can someone recommend a landscaper / masonry / concrete company that can build a 6 ft high retaining wall (65 ft long) that will be holding back 6 ft of soil?  Will need company to draw up plans, pull permits, etc.  I'm having a hard time finding a local company willing to do that kind of work.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on July 07, 2014, 11:11:20 AM
So funny thing.. got a hold of Resort Style backyards.. had their contractor come out to do measurements.  Just had basic ideas laid out.  Never heard from them again.  LOL
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on July 07, 2014, 11:17:12 AM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on July 07, 2014, 11:43:02 AM
So funny thing.. got a hold of Resort Style backyards.. had their contractor come out to do measurements.  Just had basic ideas laid out.  Never heard from them again.  LOL
Too busy starting new threads. :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: tooslow4u on July 07, 2014, 11:48:35 AM
So funny thing.. got a hold of Resort Style backyards.. had their contractor come out to do measurements.  Just had basic ideas laid out.  Never heard from them again.  LOL

That's a winner right there...
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: GH on July 07, 2014, 11:55:08 AM
So funny thing.. got a hold of Resort Style backyards.. had their contractor come out to do measurements.  Just had basic ideas laid out.  Never heard from them again.  LOL

LOL... Same thing here .. They did the measurement last week of May .. I follow up every week or so, said they will send out the quote in the next few days .. nothing ..  I'm not really in a hurry to finish the backyard so I can wait .. but I'm just thinking if it takes them that long to do a bid, how long would it take them to actually build that thing :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on July 07, 2014, 11:57:24 AM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on July 07, 2014, 01:37:47 PM
Jmoney - any news regarding about uncle Jo?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on July 07, 2014, 02:33:31 PM
I'm having quite an interesting experience with Resort Backyard right now... will see how it pans out.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on July 07, 2014, 02:43:22 PM
I'm having quite an interesting experience with Resort Backyard right now... will see how it pans out.

How so?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on July 07, 2014, 03:09:33 PM
Can someone recommend a landscaper / masonry / concrete company that can build a 6 ft high retaining wall (65 ft long) that will be holding back 6 ft of soil?  Will need company to draw up plans, pull permits, etc.  I'm having a hard time finding a local company willing to do that kind of work.

Thanks!

Ugh good luck!  I don't have a rec for you but I will say. Landscaping has been a bitch in general. Every company has more work than it can take on. Even if you get a timely quote, the paperwork/hoa process can lag. Then even after you get approval, you have to wait until they have a crew available to start work. Then there's no guarantee u get continuous work. It's really not a buyers landscaping market out there right now.

Same experience here.  A typical 3 week job will very likely drag out to 3 month.  And if there's another customer with bigger yard, more elaborate futures and higher profit margin, it will takes precedence over your yard. 

Those with big yard got priority.  >:(


Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on July 07, 2014, 04:26:11 PM
I'm having quite an interesting experience with Resort Backyard right now... will see how it pans out.

How so?

It's a pretty long story... easier to post it after I see how it finishes... I haven't hired them yet.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on July 07, 2014, 04:40:17 PM
Jmoney - any news regarding about uncle Jo?

Went to the nursery with uncle Jo yesterday. Going to travertine yard tomorrow then we can finalize a price. He's been good thus far.

I have to note that he knows his plants and trees. I think he told me he studied it.  That can be very helpful.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on July 07, 2014, 04:52:01 PM
If the travertine yard breaks the bank for you, you might want to consider this:
http://www.builddirect.com/Travertine-Tile/Denizli-Beige-Standard/ProductDisplay_7246_p1_10071438.aspx

I'm thinking of using it, very good price point and good reviews.  I ordered some samples of it last week, should be getting them in a few days.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: . on July 14, 2014, 08:39:42 AM
Got alot of quotes.  This one seems to be interesting

1. Demo existing concrete $260
2. Framing/grading $600
3. Installation of three steps at front entrance $1800
4. 6-Sprinklers with 4 valves and schedule 40 3/4 inch pipes and rain bird heads and controller $1600
5. Installation of 4 inch ABS draininage according to plan design $1600
6. Insallation of 802 sqft new color Concrete floor with 3 inch diamond cut to be smooth finish Santiago buff color $6416
7. Installation of 110 sqft of Travertine stone at front entrance $1430
8. Installation of travertine at patio area 230 sqft $1850
9. Two 24 inch box tree $300
10. 100 sqft grass $300
11 20 one gallon shrubs or flowers $100
12 HOA city plan Drawing $400
13 Top soil $500 (optional)
14 Wood chip dark brown $500 (optional)

Total: $16656
Total with optional: $17656
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on July 14, 2014, 08:56:24 AM
Got alot of quotes.  This one seems to be interesting

1. Demo existing concrete $260
2. Framing/grading $600
3. Installation of three steps at front entrance $1800
4. 6-Sprinklers with 4 valves and schedule 40 3/4 inch pipes and rain bird heads and controller $1600
5. Installation of 4 inch ABS draininage according to plan design $1600
6. Insallation of 802 sqft new color Concrete floor with 3 inch diamond cut to be smooth finish Santiago buff color $6416
7. Installation of 110 sqft of Travertine stone at front entrance $1430
8. Installation of travertine at patio area 230 sqft $1850
9. Two 24 inch box tree $300
10. 100 sqft grass $300
11 20 one gallon shrubs or flowers $100
12 HOA city plan Drawing $400
13 Top soil $500 (optional)
14 Wood chip dark brown $500 (optional)

Total: $16656
Total with optional: $17656
A bag of bark is around $3-$4 a bag. Top soil ranges from $2-$9 a bag. Box tree $30-$50 at HD. Demo should be free. (That small concrete slab usually contractors throw that in)

Drawing should be FREE!!!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: . on July 14, 2014, 08:58:56 AM
Got alot of quotes.  This one seems to be interesting

1. Demo existing concrete $260
2. Framing/grading $600
3. Installation of three steps at front entrance $1800
4. 6-Sprinklers with 4 valves and schedule 40 3/4 inch pipes and rain bird heads and controller $1600
5. Installation of 4 inch ABS draininage according to plan design $1600
6. Insallation of 802 sqft new color Concrete floor with 3 inch diamond cut to be smooth finish Santiago buff color $6416
7. Installation of 110 sqft of Travertine stone at front entrance $1430
8. Installation of travertine at patio area 230 sqft $1850
9. Two 24 inch box tree $300
10. 100 sqft grass $300
11 20 one gallon shrubs or flowers $100
12 HOA city plan Drawing $400
13 Top soil $500 (optional)
14 Wood chip dark brown $500 (optional)

Total: $16656
Total with optional: $17656
A bag of bark is around $3-$4 a bag. Top soil ranges from $2-$9 a bag. Box tree $30-$50 at HD. Demo should be free. (That small concrete slab usually contractors throw that in)

Drawing should be FREE!!!

Agreed, agreed, and agreed..
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on July 18, 2014, 09:13:24 PM
i think i may have let some of you down today. i actually submitted by hardscape/landscape plans to the HOA mgmt company today. Got my pool and clubhouse privileges reinstated.  next step is to get the fines waived. more importantly my wife is now off my back about not being able to take our daughter to the pool. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on July 18, 2014, 09:28:54 PM
The man wins.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on July 18, 2014, 10:05:21 PM
Hey Q who's doing your landscaping???

Mulch and Gravel?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on July 18, 2014, 10:11:46 PM
Hey Q who's doing your landscaping???

Mulch and Gravel?

aloha and go pavers. its already done, almost a year and a half ago. i was delinquent with my plans.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvineboy on July 19, 2014, 12:39:28 AM
Aloha and Go pavers only does hardscape right?  ISn't there someone who does hardscape and landscape (trees/plants)

Do you guys know who does the landscaping for the new Irvine homes like La Vita, Vicenza and Trevi, Amelia in OH?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on July 19, 2014, 01:13:38 AM
Aloha and Go pavers only does hardscape right?  ISn't there someone who does hardscape and landscape (trees/plants)

Do you guys know who does the landscaping for the new Irvine homes like La Vita, Vicenza and Trevi, Amelia in OH?
Read from the beginning of this thread. There are a lot of recommendations and what not.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on July 19, 2014, 08:04:28 AM
Aloha and Go pavers only does hardscape right?  ISn't there someone who does hardscape and landscape (trees/plants)

Do you guys know who does the landscaping for the new Irvine homes like La Vita, Vicenza and Trevi, Amelia in OH?

There's Aloha paver co. which only does pavers and there's Aloha landscape that does just about everything landscaping related.  Two complete different company.

Go Paver only do pavers and I believe they can also do sprinklers.

Southwinds is one of landscaping company that does a lot of works for model homes in Irvine.  There's good chance that Southwinds did those model homes too. http://swlandscaping.com
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on July 19, 2014, 10:31:48 PM
Aloha Pavers quoted me 37k just for pavers and turf... Would still have to pay for someone to do irrigation, lighting, plants, planting, etc.

Seemed pricey.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ps9 on July 19, 2014, 11:09:18 PM
i think i may have let some of you down today. i actually submitted by hardscape/landscape plans to the HOA mgmt company today. Got my pool and clubhouse privileges reinstated.  next step is to get the fines waived. more importantly my wife is now off my back about not being able to take our daughter to the pool. 

So whats the real reason why you relinquished?  Did HOA threaten lien action?  Quadruple fines that's too much even for a 1%er? 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on July 19, 2014, 11:31:25 PM
i think i may have let some of you down today. i actually submitted by hardscape/landscape plans to the HOA mgmt company today. Got my pool and clubhouse privileges reinstated.  next step is to get the fines waived. more importantly my wife is now off my back about not being able to take our daughter to the pool. 

So whats the real reason why you relinquished?  Did HOA threaten lien action?  Quadruple fines that's too much even for a 1%er? 

i told my wife i submitted them a month ago. she was asking whether the plans had been approved or not. i wasnt going to be able to stall much longer before she figured out i was lying. so got them in and got the pool/clubhouse privileges reinstated.  her main reason for me getting the plans in was to be able to take our daughter to the pool.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ps9 on July 19, 2014, 11:49:05 PM
Wife: 1
HOA: 0

And you were riding IHO on the Nest thermostat thing, happy wife happy....who cares! wife's happy! :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on July 20, 2014, 12:23:52 AM
Wife: 1
HOA: 0

And you were riding IHO on the Nest thermostat thing, happy wife happy....who cares! wife's happy! :)

I know. I'm a believer of the phrase: do as I say not as I do
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ZeroLot on July 21, 2014, 11:47:20 PM
Wife: 1
HOA: 0

And you were riding IHO on the Nest thermostat thing, happy wife happy....who cares! wife's happy! :)

Ah you guys forget, if little Qwerty didn't need to go to the pool ... All of this could have been delayed some more. 

Should have given her that fancy 1st birthday Mr. Q.  ;)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Chairman on July 22, 2014, 03:03:35 PM
I got a black business card at my door from Lundun Group Landscape Exteriors. Phone number 714.412.1008. Anyone dealt with or know of this landscaping company?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ps9 on July 22, 2014, 04:59:52 PM
Wife: 1
HOA: 0

And you were riding IHO on the Nest thermostat thing, happy wife happy....who cares! wife's happy! :)

I know. I'm a believer of the phrase: do as I say not as I do

So how's the pool? :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on July 22, 2014, 05:05:12 PM
She hasn't even used it. Granted it's only been 4 days. I told her she be at the damn pool every weekend for all the shit I was getting about not being able to go to the pool.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: 0$ on July 22, 2014, 06:07:07 PM
 >:D
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on July 22, 2014, 06:30:29 PM
She hasn't even used it. Granted it's only been 4 days. I told her she be at the damn pool every weekend for all the shit I was getting about not being able to go to the pool.
You said those exact words?

Time to look for the next wife. :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on July 22, 2014, 06:37:59 PM
She hasn't even used it. Granted it's only been 4 days. I told her she be at the damn pool every weekend for all the shit I was getting about not being able to go to the pool.
You said those exact words?

Time to look for the next wife. :)

That is in fact the exact quote. He who has the bat has the power!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on July 22, 2014, 07:01:48 PM
Got alot of quotes.  This one seems to be interesting

1. Demo existing concrete $260
2. Framing/grading $600
3. Installation of three steps at front entrance $1800
4. 6-Sprinklers with 4 valves and schedule 40 3/4 inch pipes and rain bird heads and controller $1600
5. Installation of 4 inch ABS draininage according to plan design $1600
6. Insallation of 802 sqft new color Concrete floor with 3 inch diamond cut to be smooth finish Santiago buff color $6416
7. Installation of 110 sqft of Travertine stone at front entrance $1430
8. Installation of travertine at patio area 230 sqft $1850
9. Two 24 inch box tree $300
10. 100 sqft grass $300
11 20 one gallon shrubs or flowers $100
12 HOA city plan Drawing $400
13 Top soil $500 (optional)
14 Wood chip dark brown $500 (optional)

Total: $16656
Total with optional: $17656
A bag of bark is around $3-$4 a bag. Top soil ranges from $2-$9 a bag. Box tree $30-$50 at HD. Demo should be free. (That small concrete slab usually contractors throw that in)

Drawing should be FREE!!!

Right, landscaping for fun and no profit! Everythings free or at cost!! One minor glitch - none are hurting for work. Good luck with that.

Sorry, I'm not foolish to pay for a drawing of the backyard.

Laying down pavers, installing weed barrier for beneath the pavers, installing sprinkler system, building a sitting wall - the landscaper took care of that.

It's pretty simple to plant a small tree/flowers.

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ps9 on July 22, 2014, 07:08:11 PM
She hasn't even used it. Granted it's only been 4 days. I told her she be at the damn pool every weekend for all the shit I was getting about not being able to go to the pool.
You said those exact words?

Time to look for the next wife. :)

That is in fact the exact quote. He SHE who has the YOUR bat has the power!

That's what you mean, no?  :) Any luck with the fines being reduced? 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: 0$ on July 22, 2014, 07:08:22 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on July 22, 2014, 07:10:47 PM
She hasn't even used it. Granted it's only been 4 days. I told her she be at the damn pool every weekend for all the shit I was getting about not being able to go to the pool.
You said those exact words?

Time to look for the next wife. :)

That is in fact the exact quote. He SHE who has the YOUR bat has the power!

That's what you mean, no?  :) Any luck with the fines being reduced? 

I haven't asked yet. I didn't want to bring it up before I got the pool reinstated. I'm going to email them next week and ask. Will let you guys know how it goes.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on July 22, 2014, 07:34:00 PM
Sorry, I'm not foolish to pay for a drawing of the backyard.

Laying down pavers, installing weed barrier for beneath the pavers, installing sprinkler system, building a sitting wall - the landscaper took care of that.

It's pretty simple to plant a small tree/flowers.

Like anything else, crappy design yields crappy results. Every time I've chintzed on design I've ended up redoing my yard. Costs more when you go cheap. For example, plants that need less water, more sun, more/less space, etc. Unless one doesn't care and is looking for the basic.

Most landscapers INCLUDE the drawing in the quote for the backyard at no additional cost.

I think your one of the few that paid for your design.#yougotrippedoff
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: 0$ on July 22, 2014, 07:37:10 PM
:P
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on July 22, 2014, 07:51:35 PM
sdf
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: 0$ on July 22, 2014, 08:13:00 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: iHeartIrvine on July 28, 2014, 11:02:11 AM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ZeroLot on July 28, 2014, 04:08:21 PM
So my yard is 99.99% done with KS Landscaping.  Just a few quick touchups and all will be done.

Andru wasn't happy with the seal he placed over my beautiful pavers and he wants to seal it again, at no additional cost to me, to make it look perfect.  If anyone can do pavers, KS Landscaping is a pro!  From the grading to the install to the perfect alignment and height, I still can't get over how beautiful my pavers look.

I also really love the attention to detail of every little item from the plants to the concrete to the grass.  Anyhow, I'll let you judge for yourself.

Here are some quick pictures from my cell phone.  Nothing professional, just random shots in the middle of the day.

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: iHeartIrvine on July 28, 2014, 04:15:34 PM
Looks great, Zerolot.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: OCgasman on July 28, 2014, 07:50:30 PM
Nice, Zerolot.  Is that real or artificial grass, cuz I can't tell by the pic.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on July 28, 2014, 08:04:50 PM
Zerolot - congrats on your yard. Looks very good.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on July 28, 2014, 08:09:55 PM
Nice, Zerolot.  Is that real or artificial grass, cuz I can't tell by the pic.

Looks like artificial.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on July 28, 2014, 09:31:25 PM
The yard and the pavers looks really nice ZeroLot.  Enjoy your new yard.
 

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ps9 on July 28, 2014, 09:41:41 PM
Looks nice!  BBQ time!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ZeroLot on July 28, 2014, 10:28:23 PM
Nice, Zerolot.  Is that real or artificial grass, cuz I can't tell by the pic.

Looks like artificial.

Yup it's an all American made, kid and pet friendly, non toxic artificial turf from Village Nursery in Orange.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ZeroLot on July 28, 2014, 10:29:48 PM
Looks nice!  BBQ time!

Yes it is.  Just waiting for Mr. Z to get that Weber grill.  I convinced him to go propane since it'll save us some money too.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: . on July 29, 2014, 07:15:41 AM
So my yard is 99.99% done with KS Landscaping.  Just a few quick touchups and all will be done.

Andru wasn't happy with the seal he placed over my beautiful pavers and he wants to seal it again, at no additional cost to me, to make it look perfect.  If anyone can do pavers, KS Landscaping is a pro!  From the grading to the install to the perfect alignment and height, I still can't get over how beautiful my pavers look.

I also really love the attention to detail of every little item from the plants to the concrete to the grass.  Anyhow, I'll let you judge for yourself.

Here are some quick pictures from my cell phone.  Nothing professional, just random shots in the middle of the day.

Nice.  I talked W/ Andru.  He is a nice guy.  However, he gave me a quote of 22K.  I have another landscaping company.  currently their price is only 18K.  I asked Andru to match the price and unfortunately, he is NOT willing to do that.  Anyone heard of Sunset Oasis?  http://sunsetoasis.com/ 

Now, my choice is between KS (22K) or SunsetOasis (18K).  Any recommendation?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: OCgasman on July 29, 2014, 08:51:20 AM
@Zerolot
I met with a friend who wishes she went with artificial grass instead of real turf.  She said it's a pain with maintenance and since it's been so hot, she's watering the grass 2x/day and her kids can't play on it a lot of the times cuz it's wet.  Also said she hates the inevitable discoloration in some spots.  Said artificial grass has come a long way and it's actually quite expensive for the stuff that looks super real.  I'm actually giving it strong consideration in my next home when just a few years ago, I was either all hardscape or hardscape/real grass.  Not having to cut and water is really enticing.

@Yaliu07
Unless you can find someone with as strong a recommendation for Sunset Oasis as ZL has for KS, I would always go for a company you know has done great work and gives strong service.  Sometimes something is more expensive cuz it's worth the extra premium.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: . on July 29, 2014, 09:33:13 AM
@Yaliu07
Unless you can find someone with as strong a recommendation for Sunset Oasis as ZL has for KS, I would always go for a company you know has done great work and gives strong service.  Sometimes something is more expensive cuz it's worth the extra premium.

Excellent Advice.  Thank you
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Chairman on July 29, 2014, 12:30:20 PM
ZL,

Your landscaping turned out super clean and nice. I like it! Congrats! So you are not going to hook up your grill to the gas line? Any reason for that? Is it better or worse to have it hooked to the main gas line of the house? Propane tanks seem like they would be a pain.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ps9 on July 29, 2014, 01:50:19 PM
Refill tanks once a year, max 2.  Not that hard.  And I can BBQ after the Big One/apocalypse/zombies if I'm still alive. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on July 29, 2014, 01:59:35 PM
Refill tanks once a year, max 2.  Not that hard.  And I can BBQ after the Big One/apocalypse/zombies if I'm still alive. 
You can also move the grill around... like if you need more shade... or the smoke is wafting in the wrong direction.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ps9 on July 29, 2014, 02:01:35 PM
Don't move a hot BBQ!  Live with the smoke.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on July 29, 2014, 02:07:27 PM
ZL,

Your landscaping turned out super clean and nice. I like it! Congrats! So you are not going to hook up your grill to the gas line? Any reason for that? Is it better or worse to have it hooked to the main gas line of the house? Propane tanks seem like they would be a pain.

Chair - read this thread, talked about having a gas line underneath pavers
http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,11608.msg232729.html#msg232729
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: i1 on July 29, 2014, 02:50:58 PM
Is safety still a concern on synthetic grass? Link is dated but seen some similar concerns over the materials. One thing to have exposure in public areas but another when it's your backyard.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2265067/

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: . on July 29, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
So my yard is 99.99% done with KS Landscaping.  Just a few quick touchups and all will be done.

Andru wasn't happy with the seal he placed over my beautiful pavers and he wants to seal it again, at no additional cost to me, to make it look perfect.  If anyone can do pavers, KS Landscaping is a pro!  From the grading to the install to the perfect alignment and height, I still can't get over how beautiful my pavers look.

I also really love the attention to detail of every little item from the plants to the concrete to the grass.  Anyhow, I'll let you judge for yourself.

Here are some quick pictures from my cell phone.  Nothing professional, just random shots in the middle of the day.

Can we have a BBQ at your house next holiday?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ZeroLot on July 29, 2014, 03:34:19 PM
Now, my choice is between KS (22K) or SunsetOasis (18K).  Any recommendation?

Yikes!!  Well this tells me your backyard is MUCH MUCH bigger than mine.  The perks of a 10 foot setback yard is cheaper landscaping project.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ZeroLot on July 29, 2014, 03:50:49 PM
So my yard is 99.99% done with KS Landscaping.  Just a few quick touchups and all will be done.

Andru wasn't happy with the seal he placed over my beautiful pavers and he wants to seal it again, at no additional cost to me, to make it look perfect.  If anyone can do pavers, KS Landscaping is a pro!  From the grading to the install to the perfect alignment and height, I still can't get over how beautiful my pavers look.

I also really love the attention to detail of every little item from the plants to the concrete to the grass.  Anyhow, I'll let you judge for yourself.

Here are some quick pictures from my cell phone.  Nothing professional, just random shots in the middle of the day.

Can we have a BBQ at your house next holiday?

I would love to have a BBQ with all the kids and families we've met at CV.  I've been buggin Mr. Z to get that Weber grill so we can get the party going.  I think he's waiting for that summer BBQ sale.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on July 29, 2014, 05:14:19 PM
Your neighbors speak english?
 :o
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on July 29, 2014, 09:27:30 PM
Nice.  I talked W/ Andru.  He is a nice guy.  However, he gave me a quote of 22K.  I have another landscaping company.  currently their price is only 18K.  I asked Andru to match the price and unfortunately, he is NOT willing to do that.  Anyone heard of Sunset Oasis?  http://sunsetoasis.com/ 

Now, my choice is between KS (22K) or SunsetOasis (18K).  Any recommendation?

I not familiar with SunsetOasis but I'm also have my landscaping done by KS.  KS never had the lowest price but their price seems reasonable.  I'll PM you some pic of my back yard. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on July 29, 2014, 09:40:22 PM
Nice.  I talked W/ Andru.  He is a nice guy.  However, he gave me a quote of 22K.  I have another landscaping company.  currently their price is only 18K.  I asked Andru to match the price and unfortunately, he is NOT willing to do that.  Anyone heard of Sunset Oasis?  http://sunsetoasis.com/ 

Now, my choice is between KS (22K) or SunsetOasis (18K).  Any recommendation?

I not familiar with SunsetOasis but I'm also have my landscaping done by KS.  KS never had the lowest price but their price seems reasonable.  I'll PM you some pic of my back yard.

Post them here.  ;D
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on July 29, 2014, 09:51:31 PM
Nice.  I talked W/ Andru.  He is a nice guy.  However, he gave me a quote of 22K.  I have another landscaping company.  currently their price is only 18K.  I asked Andru to match the price and unfortunately, he is NOT willing to do that.  Anyone heard of Sunset Oasis?  http://sunsetoasis.com/ 

Now, my choice is between KS (22K) or SunsetOasis (18K).  Any recommendation?

I not familiar with SunsetOasis but I'm also have my landscaping done by KS.  KS never had the lowest price but their price seems reasonable.  I'll PM you some pic of my back yard.

Post them here.  ;D

Too many people already tour my yard and I'm afraid they will recognized it and know that's where I live.

Also I don't want ZeroLot knows that I secretly copy her yard design. :P
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ZeroLot on July 29, 2014, 10:21:59 PM

Too many people already tour my yard and I'm afraid they will recognized it and know that's where I live.

Also I don't want ZeroLot knows that I secretly copy her yard design. :P

 Oh no you didn't .....  :P
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on July 30, 2014, 10:42:14 PM
Nice.  I talked W/ Andru.  He is a nice guy.  However, he gave me a quote of 22K.  I have another landscaping company.  currently their price is only 18K.  I asked Andru to match the price and unfortunately, he is NOT willing to do that.  Anyone heard of Sunset Oasis?  http://sunsetoasis.com/ 

Now, my choice is between KS (22K) or SunsetOasis (18K).  Any recommendation?

I not familiar with SunsetOasis but I'm also have my landscaping done by KS.  KS never had the lowest price but their price seems reasonable.  I'll PM you some pic of my back yard. 

When you call site sponsor "Resort Style Backyards" to give you a bid, they will probably send out Sunset Oasis.  Turns out "Resort Style Backyards" doesn't seem to have any employees of their own, they just pass your info on to another contractor and receive a % commission if you end up signing with the contractor they referred you to.

Sunset Oasis was nice enough and seemed professional, but I just couldn't get over the fact that a few thousand dollars of what I'm paying them would go to Resort Style Backyards, that's money wasted right off the top.  I tried to get the specifics on what Sunset Oasis would be paying in commission to Resort Style Backyards but I could tell he didn't want to say, so I didn't push.

Seems like Sunset Oasis is just getting started in OC.  They did a lot of work in Vegas and their work looks good in pictures but when I asked for local references / addresses, they gave only 2 homes in OC, neither of which were within 15 minute drive so I didn't bother going to look. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on July 30, 2014, 10:46:19 PM
Resort Style Backyards not by Resort Style Backyards.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RibEye on July 31, 2014, 08:14:33 AM
Thanks for the info on Resort Style. A friend recently moved to Irvine and was looking for landscaping companies, so I gave her the names of KS Landscaping, Resort Style, and Land Reform.

Per what I was told, Land Reform simply never got back to her and KS is providing her w/ a proposal today, but Andru estimated that it would be in the 10-12K range. Resort Style (or Sunset Oasis...or whoever was out there) gave her a quote of under $10K but didn't provide her with plans, just an itemization of the materials that they intended to use, although they advised that they'd be providing a plan for her review and approval.

Has anyone actually used Resort Style who can provide feedback on the company (or any of the subcontractors that they use)?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: PS2012 on August 07, 2014, 09:54:08 AM
Thanks for the info on Resort Style. A friend recently moved to Irvine and was looking for landscaping companies, so I gave her the names of KS Landscaping, Resort Style, and Land Reform.

Per what I was told, Land Reform simply never got back to her and KS is providing her w/ a proposal today, but Andru estimated that it would be in the 10-12K range. Resort Style (or Sunset Oasis...or whoever was out there) gave her a quote of under $10K but didn't provide her with plans, just an itemization of the materials that they intended to use, although they advised that they'd be providing a plan for her review and approval.

Has anyone actually used Resort Style who can provide feedback on the company (or any of the subcontractors that they use)?

A neighbor next door used Land Reform a couple of years ago.  Work was VERY minimal, and the softscape is horrible.  We interviewed the Land Reform owner Ken and had him give us a bid.  I didn't like his sales personality and glad we didn't choose him because he installed a tree in my neighbor's yard that was not approved by the HOA, and wanted to start work before HOA approval - which he did on my neighbor's yard.  Another neighbor used Land Reform (projected seemed to have started about a year ago) and is still not complete as of today.

I also do not recommend Martin from Mortorcor Landscaping.  None of my neighbors who used him had anything good to say other than he was cheap, but cheap also means lots of other headaches.  The other neighbor next door used him and now she has to water her plants by hand in the front yard.

KS has a good reputation.  They are not the cheapest, but I hear their customer service is great.  I did not use any of the ones I listed, but if I were to do it all over again I would hire a landscape architect, or get someone with good knowledge of sprinkler systems to work with the landscaper.  I feel like a good majority of the neighbors have issues with sprinkler systems (grass or non-grass).

There are always complaints with every landscaper.  Even if they did an awesome job on other peoples yards before, if they take on too many jobs at once, they will put your project on hold.  What I've seen is as soon as you give them the deposit, they send their crew to demo the concrete stoops, and dump a bunch of soil on your driveway the very next day.  Then they disappear for weeks until the homeowner calls them yelling with a threat.  Rinse and repeat.  It didn't happen to me but a lot of neighbors experienced it unfortunately.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on August 07, 2014, 10:18:52 AM
It's buyer beware. I agree cheapest is not always the best. However, I got quotes from unlicensed contractors that gave me a higher quote than a licensed contractor. Make sure you see sample jobs in person, pictures almost all the time look good from any angle.  ;)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ZeroLot on August 07, 2014, 03:53:44 PM
It's buyer beware. I agree cheapest is not always the best. However, I got quotes from unlicensed contractors that gave me a higher quote than a licensed contractor. Make sure you see sample jobs in person, pictures almost all the time look good from any angle.  ;)

Words of wisdom there.  Cheapest or most expensive doesn't translate into quality.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on August 07, 2014, 04:02:43 PM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on August 07, 2014, 04:05:25 PM
my wife likes to quote judge Milian from the peoples court - cheap becomes expensive.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on August 07, 2014, 04:06:29 PM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on August 07, 2014, 04:09:06 PM
for those keeping it simple, just pavers and some grass/plants i would go with gopavers. they did 1,500 sq ft of pavers + grass + sprinklers in 4 days. not the cheapest and not the most expensive. but they will start and finish on the dates they promised.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: NYT on August 07, 2014, 04:26:07 PM
Aloha and Go pavers only does hardscape right?  ISn't there someone who does hardscape and landscape (trees/plants)

Do you guys know who does the landscaping for the new Irvine homes like La Vita, Vicenza and Trevi, Amelia in OH?

There's Aloha paver co. which only does pavers and there's Aloha landscape that does just about everything landscaping related.  Two complete different company.

Go Paver only do pavers and I believe they can also do sprinklers.

Southwinds is one of landscaping company that does a lot of works for model homes in Irvine.  There's good chance that Southwinds did those model homes too. http://swlandscaping.com

Southwinds did not do the models at Amelia and Trevi. Although I'm not certain, I don't think Southwinds does model homes. That said, Southwinds is the builder-recommended landscaper for homebuyers at Trevi who want their landscape complete prior to close.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Lallo on August 09, 2014, 10:17:58 PM
I'm looking into pavers myself and was considering Go Pavers.  Went to their website and saw that they require a minimum of $5000 for ANY JOB!  I have a really small patio...damn.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on August 10, 2014, 12:24:02 AM
I'm looking into pavers myself and was considering Go Pavers.  Went to their website and saw that they require a minimum of $5000 for ANY JOB!  I have a really small patio...damn.

Not to worry, the quote they give never matches their website pricing.  Based on my experience it will be double that and they'll make up a reason why they had to charge you more.  So you're in luck.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on August 10, 2014, 03:20:53 AM
I'm looking into pavers myself and was considering Go Pavers.  Went to their website and saw that they require a minimum of $5000 for ANY JOB!  I have a really small patio...damn.


You say that now. But after you get different quotes. I bet you say $5000 is a good deal.  ;) (just saying)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Lallo on August 10, 2014, 10:20:09 PM
Nah, Mahe gave me a quote of $2200 which I felt was too much for a 120 sq ft patio.  Told ya'll it was small.  Maybe I'll just do concrete.  I don't plan on keeping the property anyways.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Lallo on August 10, 2014, 10:34:06 PM
Forgot to mention, has anyone heard or tried out Rescom Landscaping?  My father in law's neighbors used them and work was minimal and descent.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on August 10, 2014, 11:42:33 PM
Forgot to mention, has anyone heard or tried out Rescom Landscaping?  My father in law's neighbors used them and work was minimal and descent.

They were recommended on nextdoor.com from Laguna Altura residents.  Haven't gotten a quote from them though.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on August 11, 2014, 03:27:08 AM
Nah, Mahe gave me a quote of $2200 which I felt was too much for a 120 sq ft patio.  Told ya'll it was small.  Maybe I'll just do concrete.  I don't plan on keeping the property anyways.

You should read this.

http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,4096.75.html
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on August 11, 2014, 07:50:11 AM
@eyephone:

So who did you end up with? Like 10 pages ago you said you weren't going with GoPavers but I don't think I read an update after that.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on August 11, 2014, 08:27:32 AM
I finally signed a contract with a landscaper but not worth commenting until the work begins, may be a month or more.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on August 11, 2014, 11:12:20 AM
@eyephone:

So who did you end up with? Like 10 pages ago you said you weren't going with GoPavers but I don't think I read an update after that.

I will PM you with the contractor.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on August 11, 2014, 11:16:32 AM
@eyephone:

So who did you end up with? Like 10 pages ago you said you weren't going with GoPavers but I don't think I read an update after that.

I will PM you with the contractor.
Hehe... I'm just curious.

The contractor information might be more useful for all these new home buyers (back in the IHB days, this would never be the case).

Can you tell us if it's finished? How long did it take? What was the approximate cost (5-figures?)?

I'm living vicariously through all you new home owners.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: pam on August 16, 2014, 01:32:36 AM
*WARNING*

Avoid West Coast Landcare (aka California Landscape Studios) and owner Justin Fox. Don't let his 3D computer illustrations fool you! This company fails to deliver what Justin promises in these designs. The quality of their work is below standard (workers damaged paver block walkway during installation & concrete sidewalk is discolored), customer service is terrible (once you sign the contract, don't expect Justin to return your calls), poor selection of plant material, foreman unreliable and inexperienced, they will change the approved designs during construction and try to charge you more, and they fail to complete the work within a reasonable time.

Stay away from West Coast Landcare. Don't even waste your time with an estimate. This company has too many problems and their quotes will be ridiculously higher than the other companys.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: OCgasman on August 16, 2014, 08:27:04 AM
*WARNING*

Avoid West Coast Landcare (aka California Landscape Studios) and owner Justin Fox. Don't let his 3D computer illustrations fool you! This company fails to deliver what Justin promises in these designs. The quality of their work is below standard (workers damaged paver block walkway during installation & concrete sidewalk is discolored), customer service is terrible (once you sign the contract, don't expect Justin to return your calls), poor selection of plant material, foreman unreliable and inexperienced, they will change the approved designs during construction and try to charge you more, and they fail to complete the work within a reasonable time.

Stay away from West Coast Landcare. Don't even waste your time with an estimate. This company has too many problems and their quotes will be ridiculously higher than the other companys.
Wow, thanks for the warning.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ZeroLot on August 16, 2014, 11:59:46 PM

I'm living vicariously through all you new home owners.

It'll be your turn sooner than you think.

If someone told me last year that I'd be living in a new house in 2014, I would have laughed at their prediction.  Well here I am ... And all the fun stuff that comes with owning a new home.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Pippi on August 17, 2014, 03:57:14 PM
Has anyone used M&K Masonry and Landscape out of Mission Viejo? 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: marshie14 on September 06, 2014, 12:10:53 PM
Hi everyone!  I'm relatively new to TI :)  I've been talking to some landscaping companies and have narrowed my choices down to two: 1) KS Landscaping and 2) Jefferson Rand.  Does anybody have any opinions/experience on either they'd be willing to share?  And info would be appreciated!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: BuddyLeo on September 07, 2014, 12:06:09 PM
I highly recommend Jo from Echo Family. I found him because many of the homes in my neighborhood in Mendocino were using him. No better way to assess any contractors work than seeing it for your own eyes. I looked at the quality of his work and was very impressed. After receiving quotes from multiple landscape companies, I chose another contractor initially because they gave me the best price. But unfortunately, that contractor kept on pushing the start date further and further...and eventually, I got so fed up I called Jo to see if he can help me out. He took my business and he completed the job in 2 weeks. I am so pleased with the results and get compliments all of the time! Most importantly, Jo and his team does the job right without cutting corners and adjusts to my needs. It is all according to code and HOA approval is almost complete!

Good luck and PM me if you have any questions.

Contact for Jo from Echo Family is 949-533-4055.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: OCgasman on September 07, 2014, 01:08:11 PM
Looks nice, BuddyLeo.  Thanks for posting the rec and pics.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ZeroLot on September 07, 2014, 01:59:47 PM
Buddyleo your yard is beautiful!!!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: BuddyLeo on September 07, 2014, 03:48:14 PM
Thank you! We love it too!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: zubs on September 08, 2014, 01:38:36 AM
*WARNING*

Avoid West Coast Landcare (aka California Landscape Studios) and owner Justin Fox. Don't let his 3D computer illustrations fool you! This company fails to deliver what Justin promises in these designs. The quality of their work is below standard (workers damaged paver block walkway during installation & concrete sidewalk is discolored), customer service is terrible (once you sign the contract, don't expect Justin to return your calls), poor selection of plant material, foreman unreliable and inexperienced, they will change the approved designs during construction and try to charge you more, and they fail to complete the work within a reasonable time.

Stay away from West Coast Landcare. Don't even waste your time with an estimate. This company has too many problems and their quotes will be ridiculously higher than the other companys.

Congratulations on your first post on TI!!!   Wow, you made an account just to complain about a landscaper.  Not to say your lying, but if you could upload pics of ur complaint that would be helpful.  thanks.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on September 08, 2014, 06:25:59 AM
Is Jo the one who was responding to a member's complaint, started posting like crazy and then disappeared?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on September 08, 2014, 07:08:43 AM
*WARNING*

Avoid West Coast Landcare (aka California Landscape Studios) and owner Justin Fox. Don't let his 3D computer illustrations fool you! This company fails to deliver what Justin promises in these designs. The quality of their work is below standard (workers damaged paver block walkway during installation & concrete sidewalk is discolored), customer service is terrible (once you sign the contract, don't expect Justin to return your calls), poor selection of plant material, foreman unreliable and inexperienced, they will change the approved designs during construction and try to charge you more, and they fail to complete the work within a reasonable time.

Stay away from West Coast Landcare. Don't even waste your time with an estimate. This company has too many problems and their quotes will be ridiculously higher than the other companys.

Congratulations on your first post on TI!!!   Wow, you made an account just to complain about a landscaper.  Not to say your lying, but if you could upload pics of ur complaint that would be helpful.  thanks.

+1 post the pics
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ZeroLot on September 13, 2014, 10:06:52 AM
Just a quick update.  Finally got my approval letter from the HOA!!!  Woohoo!!! 

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on September 13, 2014, 10:50:52 AM
Congrats zlot- looks great. Did u get real grass or artificial?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ZeroLot on September 13, 2014, 12:36:49 PM
Congrats zlot- looks great. Did u get real grass or artificial?

The real question is, do you think Mr. Z is really the type to mow???   :P
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: SubSolar on September 13, 2014, 08:04:05 PM
What plants are those along the main wall?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on September 13, 2014, 09:27:53 PM
Looks good Zero!  The grass is def. artificial but I like it. 

One question, where the grass meets the planter do you have any small wood strip divider in the ground or one just starts where the other stops?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ZeroLot on September 15, 2014, 08:58:02 AM
What plants are those along the main wall?

Those are Madagascar Jasmine.  Very beautiful vines.  I saw them in a model home in CV and wanted it for my own yard.

Looks good Zero!  The grass is def. artificial but I like it. 

One question, where the grass meets the planter do you have any small wood strip divider in the ground or one just starts where the other stops?

Yes there is.  There is a wood divider.  There is also nails to keep the grass down, amongst other stuff they put in the artificial turf to keep it in good condition.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: MrsGH on November 06, 2014, 03:19:02 PM
We finally got our yard completed by The Echo Family (949-533-4055) and here are some pics.

I cannot say enough good things about our experience with Jo and his crew. The whole job took about 5 weeks to complete. His crew came bright and early everyday at 7am and would work till late, sometimes past 6pm. Jo came and checked the job from time to time to make sure everything is going according to plan. Once or twice we had to change our mind on something and he accommodated our requests. He helped and did all the HOA submission, before and after, and was very patient during the design process. I can't even count how many times we had to redo the drawings and plan and he was very patient all throughout. We picked Jo because he clearly knows what he's doing. He doesn't over promise, and if he can't do it he'll flat out tell you why he can't do it. He doesn't string you along, and doesn't just agree to everything you say.
We trusted him to pick every material out (didn't go to stone yards with him) and it came out perfect. Jo is not the cheapest out there, but he is also not the most expensive. I think what he charges is very reasonable, and fairly priced. He's also local, so any time we need him, he's always 1 call away from coming by to check on things. I couldn't be happier with our yard!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on November 06, 2014, 03:25:41 PM
We finally got our yard completed by The Echo Family (949-533-4055) and here are some pics.

I cannot say enough good things about our experience with Jo and his crew. The whole job took about 5 weeks to complete. His crew came bright and early everyday at 7am and would work till late, sometimes past 6pm. Jo came and checked the job from time to time to make sure everything is going according to plan. Once or twice we had to change our mind on something and he accommodated our requests. He helped and did all the HOA submission, before and after, and was very patient during the design process. I can't even count how many times we had to redo the drawings and plan and he was very patient all throughout. We picked Jo because he clearly knows what he's doing. He doesn't over promise, and if he can't do it he'll flat out tell you why he can't do it. He doesn't string you along, and doesn't just agree to everything you say.
We trusted him to pick every material out (didn't go to stone yards with him) and it came out perfect. Jo is not the cheapest out there, but he is also not the most expensive. I think what he charges is very reasonable, and fairly priced. He's also local, so any time we need him, he's always 1 call away from coming by to check on things. I couldn't be happier with our yard!

MRS. GH is on here?  GH better delete all of his posts!  ;)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on November 06, 2014, 04:01:49 PM
Congrats on getting your yard done GH Family!

If I may ask, was it a ZeroLot(tm) 5-figure cost?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on November 06, 2014, 04:06:22 PM
Mrs GH/GH - yard looks good. That yard looks too big to be irvine :-)

how big is your lot?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: GH on November 06, 2014, 04:12:56 PM
Mrs GH/GH - yard looks good. That yard looks too big to be irvine :-)

how big is your lot?

usable yard area is around 2500 sq ft. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: GH on November 06, 2014, 04:15:34 PM
Congrats on getting your yard done GH Family!

If I may ask, was it a ZeroLot(tm) 5-figure cost?

not sure what is ZeroLot(tm) 5-figure cost, but given all the other estimate on TI for a much smaller yard, I think it is well worth it. :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on November 06, 2014, 04:29:55 PM
It means that minimum, you have to spend at least 5-figures.

I think back in the day, I spent $3000-4000 for my small yard (concrete, slate, seat wall, grass, and sprinklers/drainage).
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: GH on November 06, 2014, 04:38:55 PM
We finally got our yard completed by The Echo Family (949-533-4055) and here are some pics.

I cannot say enough good things about our experience with Jo and his crew. The whole job took about 5 weeks to complete. His crew came bright and early everyday at 7am and would work till late, sometimes past 6pm. Jo came and checked the job from time to time to make sure everything is going according to plan. Once or twice we had to change our mind on something and he accommodated our requests. He helped and did all the HOA submission, before and after, and was very patient during the design process. I can't even count how many times we had to redo the drawings and plan and he was very patient all throughout. We picked Jo because he clearly knows what he's doing. He doesn't over promise, and if he can't do it he'll flat out tell you why he can't do it. He doesn't string you along, and doesn't just agree to everything you say.
We trusted him to pick every material out (didn't go to stone yards with him) and it came out perfect. Jo is not the cheapest out there, but he is also not the most expensive. I think what he charges is very reasonable, and fairly priced. He's also local, so any time we need him, he's always 1 call away from coming by to check on things. I couldn't be happier with our yard!

One thing I would add is Jo will not nickel and dime you on minor changes during the construction.  That is actually what I was most afraid of on big project like this because once you signed the contract, you are at their mercy price wise on any changes to the original design.  I think we actually got a lot of freebies (mostly labor) from his crew.  For example, for the storage shed, he just charged us the actual cost to buy in Home Depot (actual lower than retail because looks like he has a contractor discount from HD), didn't charge us for store pickup and installation (that thing weight 180 lbs un-assembled.  saved me $150++ delivery fee plus headache on how to install).  We also requested them to transplant current fruit tree in pot to the ground,  add a few stuff here and there and he didn't charge extra. 

Bottom line .. two thumbs up for Echo Family :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on November 06, 2014, 04:42:22 PM
Mrs GH/GH - yard looks good. That yard looks too big to be irvine :-)

how big is your lot?

usable yard area is around 2500 sq ft. 

you can build another house on your lot :-)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: MrsGH on November 06, 2014, 04:43:49 PM
I have to agree with GH, it was well worth it. It just means we won't be taking any vacations anywhere but our yard for the next couple of years.  ;D
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aziwoqpd on December 01, 2014, 11:19:17 AM
Has anyone tried Symmetry Landscape?

I've been putting off doing the landscaping, but our HOA is starting to get twitchy on me (if only they spent as much time improving the community as they spend rejecting landscaping plans).

It's pretty hard to figure out which landscapers are good; seems like none of them have Yelp reviews!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Harajuku on December 01, 2014, 02:14:26 PM
Mr. and Mrs. GH, your backyard looks great! 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lovingit on March 12, 2015, 12:30:11 AM
Interiewing these guys

http://www.landmarkcustomlandscape.com/gallery/

Also Jo and J Rand.  Jo seems like a nice guy, but not sure if his designs will be too boring, like many of the Irvine tracks.  He gets referred a lot by the sales agents.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Paris on March 12, 2015, 11:43:32 AM
We had Jo over for a bid and so far he was the most expensive of the lot. He does nice work but not double the price nice! Won't be calling him back. I wonder if he jacks price up for OH.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on March 12, 2015, 11:53:56 AM
We had Jo over for a bid and so far he was the most expensive of the lot. He does nice work but not double the price nice! Won't be calling him back. I wonder if he jacks price up for OH.

Probably a situation where he doesn't need your job since they have plenty of work and gave a higher quote so if you but he would take it and delay his upcoming jobs.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on March 12, 2015, 12:19:27 PM
We had Jo over for a bid and so far he was the most expensive of the lot. He does nice work but not double the price nice! Won't be calling him back. I wonder if he jacks price up for OH.

Probably a situation where he doesn't need your job since they have plenty of work and gave a higher quote so if you but he would take it and delay his upcoming jobs.

yeah.. probably too busy to get the best deal now.  Loved his work though and he was reliable. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on March 12, 2015, 12:47:32 PM
So the TI discount is no longer?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Irvine Dream on March 12, 2015, 12:47:49 PM
We had Jo over for a bid and so far he was the most expensive of the lot. He does nice work but not double the price nice! Won't be calling him back. I wonder if he jacks price up for OH.

Paris

Could you please share ( a range is fine, <25K, 25 to 50k, >50K>?) the price one would have to budget for yard typical for Capella?  I am just trying to get a handle on a budget for typical Irvine Yard with features similar to the neighborhood (not too extravagant and not too basic either)

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: zubs on March 12, 2015, 12:57:28 PM
If you write something negative about Jo on TI, it's like saying beetlejuice X3.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0f/d6/9d/0fd69dbc8fa2de48454d2f702d29dd87.jpg)



Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Paris on March 12, 2015, 01:52:02 PM
We had Jo over for a bid and so far he was the most expensive of the lot. He does nice work but not double the price nice! Won't be calling him back. I wonder if he jacks price up for OH.

Paris

Could you please share ( a range is fine, <25K, 25 to 50k, >50K>?) the price one would have to budget for yard typical for Capella?  I am just trying to get a handle on a budget for typical Irvine Yard with features similar to the neighborhood (not too extravagant and not too basic either)

I think 30-40k is fair for front/ back which is what we've been getting in quotes. Jo came in at >60k!!  :o don't need his services, no thanks
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Irvine Dream on March 12, 2015, 01:54:45 PM

I think 30-40k is fair for front/ back which is what we've been getting in quotes. Jo came in at >60k!!  :o don't need his services, no thanks
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Thanks
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: . on March 12, 2015, 01:58:36 PM
we used KS landscaping based on TI recommendation and we are happy with them.  we talked w/ Uncle Joe and his price is about 30% higher than KS landscaping
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 12, 2015, 02:50:09 PM
we used KS landscaping based on TI recommendation and we are happy with them.  we talked w/ Uncle Joe and his price is about 30% higher than KS landscaping

I heard good things about KS too.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Paris on March 12, 2015, 08:04:37 PM
we used KS landscaping based on TI recommendation and we are happy with them.  we talked w/ Uncle Joe and his price is about 30% higher than KS landscaping

Thanks, will have to get KS landscaping out for a quote. I have time to get all these quotes since HOA is taking their cool time getting our plans approved (hope they approve them because if not it's another 4 week delay after re-submission!)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lovingit on March 13, 2015, 12:25:13 AM
We had Jo over for a bid and so far he was the most expensive of the lot. He does nice work but not double the price nice! Won't be calling him back. I wonder if he jacks price up for OH.

what did he quote you for what work?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Paris on March 13, 2015, 12:59:02 AM
We had Jo over for a bid and so far he was the most expensive of the lot. He does nice work but not double the price nice! Won't be calling him back. I wonder if he jacks price up for OH.

what did he quote you for what work?

front landscape is simple stone steps with soft scape and back yard is also stone in one section and synthetic grass in the other, sides with cement and a simple water feature in the back. Nothing crazy, very simple. And capella you know the lot sizes are small to begin with. He came in at > $60k - for what? Literally close to double all of our other bids. So maybe like someone mentioned he just gave us some crazy price because he's busy and doesn't need the work. And the only reason we called him was because the sales center at Capella recommended him. How does he get these sales people to recommend him, do you think he bribes them?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RibEye on March 13, 2015, 08:43:40 AM
we used KS landscaping based on TI recommendation and we are happy with them.  we talked w/ Uncle Joe and his price is about 30% higher than KS landscaping

We used KS to do a small backyard job for us (they dug up and replaced some of the soil in an existing planter, removed some tree roots, and installed irrigation, some trees and gardenias in that planter). Andru was great to work with, easy to get in touch with, and their price was reasonable in comparison to the other quotes that we received. He and his crew were able to turn our desolate planter into something much nicer, and something that we would not be embarrassed of.

The only issue that we've had is that our gardenias are struggling big-time and most of them may not make it through this year. Andru's come back to our house on multiple occasions and has suggested a few different options to help the gardenias along but, thus far, nothing seems to work (the leaves are turning yellow; in some cases, the gardenia plant is completely dead). The last time we spoke (in October or November of 2014) he made a comment about how gardenias may not have been the right plant to use, given the sun exposure and soil. This was a surprise to me since this was the first time I had heard him express this sentiment.

If I had any criticism of KS, it would be that they should have warned us BEFORE the job that gardenias may not have been  right for our project, especially when we had told him that we wanted something low-maintenance. As the professional landscapers, we relied on them to recommend the right type of plant to use in our planter, so we've been disappointed that we paid for something that may not have been right for our project from the get-go. With that said, he was extremely professional, easy to work with, and seemed to really care about making sure we were happy with their work.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lovingit on March 13, 2015, 02:23:37 PM
Jo gets a kick back i am sure. His work is whatevers.  He isnt that creative. Old school designs.

Anyone cheaper with creative designs?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 13, 2015, 03:51:37 PM
We had Jo over for a bid and so far he was the most expensive of the lot. He does nice work but not double the price nice! Won't be calling him back. I wonder if he jacks price up for OH.

what did he quote you for what work?

front landscape is simple stone steps with soft scape and back yard is also stone in one section and synthetic grass in the other, sides with cement and a simple water feature in the back. Nothing crazy, very simple. And capella you know the lot sizes are small to begin with. He came in at > $60k - for what? Literally close to double all of our other bids. So maybe like someone mentioned he just gave us some crazy price because he's busy and doesn't need the work. And the only reason we called him was because the sales center at Capella recommended him. How does he get these sales people to recommend him, do you think he bribes them?

Uncle Jo aka Jo, did a good job branding his name, showing the previous jobs to potential customers.

Who ever you pick, make sure that person is licensed. You can read on a different thread about another landscaper, and the stories people went through.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lovingit on March 13, 2015, 10:27:38 PM
We had Jo over for a bid and so far he was the most expensive of the lot. He does nice work but not double the price nice! Won't be calling him back. I wonder if he jacks price up for OH.

what did he quote you for what work?

front landscape is simple stone steps with soft scape and back yard is also stone in one section and synthetic grass in the other, sides with cement and a simple water feature in the back. Nothing crazy, very simple. And capella you know the lot sizes are small to begin with. He came in at > $60k - for what? Literally close to double all of our other bids. So maybe like someone mentioned he just gave us some crazy price because he's busy and doesn't need the work. And the only reason we called him was because the sales center at Capella recommended him. How does he get these sales people to recommend him, do you think he bribes them?

Anyone else you can recommend? There are a lot on Houzz but a lot of them take jobs that are $100k +
We are looking to stay around $30-40k.

http://www.houzz.com/professionals/landscape-contractors/c/Irvine,-CA
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Paris on March 14, 2015, 08:23:25 AM
Does anyone know why HOAs require you to keep 2 feet from the wall for any structures you build like water features or built in BBQs?
Why do they all have that rule? Is it a city requirement?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on March 14, 2015, 08:37:36 AM
I thought it was a city thing but my contractor said every HOA is different.  Basically the wall is their responsibility so they're trying to reduce the possibility of damage by having large trees and structures too close.

My HOA requires 3 ft setback for fireplace or any tree 24" box or larger.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 14, 2015, 08:47:44 AM
Does anyone know why HOAs require you to keep 2 feet from the wall for any structures you build like water features or built in BBQs?
Why do they all have that rule? Is it a city requirement?

Paris for your backyard you want:
Front and back landscape, Built in BBQ, Outdoor Fireplace, water feature, fake grass/stone, and cement

[previous posts: you mentioned outdoor fireplace so I added in, but you may have changed your mind]

All that mentioned above, doesn't sound simple to me. The landscaper would need to get permits to move/extend the gas line for your built in BBQ, permit to run the electrical wire to put an outlet for the water feature.

In regards to the materials,  I would not get cement, instead I would get pavers.

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: NYT on March 14, 2015, 09:45:54 AM
we used KS landscaping based on TI recommendation and we are happy with them.  we talked w/ Uncle Joe and his price is about 30% higher than KS landscaping

We used KS to do a small backyard job for us (they dug up and replaced some of the soil in an existing planter, removed some tree roots, and installed irrigation, some trees and gardenias in that planter). Andru was great to work with, easy to get in touch with, and their price was reasonable in comparison to the other quotes that we received. He and his crew were able to turn our desolate planter into something much nicer, and something that we would not be embarrassed of.

The only issue that we've had is that our gardenias are struggling big-time and most of them may not make it through this year. Andru's come back to our house on multiple occasions and has suggested a few different options to help the gardenias along but, thus far, nothing seems to work (the leaves are turning yellow; in some cases, the gardenia plant is completely dead). The last time we spoke (in October or November of 2014) he made a comment about how gardenias may not have been the right plant to use, given the sun exposure and soil. This was a surprise to me since this was the first time I had heard him express this sentiment.

If I had any criticism of KS, it would be that they should have warned us BEFORE the job that gardenias may not have been  right for our project, especially when we had told him that we wanted something low-maintenance. As the professional landscapers, we relied on them to recommend the right type of plant to use in our planter, so we've been disappointed that we paid for something that may not have been right for our project from the get-go. With that said, he was extremely professional, easy to work with, and seemed to really care about making sure we were happy with their work.

If your biggest problem and gripe is just that your gardenias aren't doing well and may not have been the best plant selection, consider yourself incredibly lucky. There are horrible horror stories with regards to landscape, and having experienced horrible landscaping issues myself, I wish that a single plant selection was my biggest problem.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Paris on March 14, 2015, 04:44:57 PM
Does anyone know why HOAs require you to keep 2 feet from the wall for any structures you build like water features or built in BBQs?
Why do they all have that rule? Is it a city requirement?

Paris for your backyard you want:
Front and back landscape, Built in BBQ, Outdoor Fireplace, water feature, fake grass/stone, and cement

[previous posts: you mentioned outdoor fireplace so I added in, but you may have changed your mind]

All that mentioned above, doesn't sound simple to me. The landscaper would need to get permits to move/extend the gas line for your built in BBQ, permit to run the electrical wire to put an outlet for the water feature.

In regards to the materials,  I would not get cement, instead I would get pavers.

Oh I know we initially wanted all of those things but the quote we got from Jo was only for the water feature with stone flooring and synthetic grass. We were just going to run the lines and get BBQ and fireplace later most likely but we didn't even tell jo about running those lines.

So his quote was for stone patio, synthetic grass. Cement was only for the side yard where trash cans would be.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: PS2012 on March 19, 2015, 02:02:43 PM
We have had problems with gardenias as well.  It looks like all of our neighbors who planted gardenias on our side of the street have had issues with the yellowing of the leaves.  Actually, a lot of our plants turned yellow in general - I think it's the soil here, as well as full sun exposure during the day time.  It's been consistent throughout the neighborhood.  We eventually swapped out our gardenias for something more suitable once they started dying off.  They weren't pretty to look at anyway with all the yellow leaves!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: RibEye on March 19, 2015, 02:37:45 PM
If your biggest problem and gripe is just that your gardenias aren't doing well and may not have been the best plant selection, consider yourself incredibly lucky. There are horrible horror stories with regards to landscape, and having experienced horrible landscaping issues myself, I wish that a single plant selection was my biggest problem.

Yes, you're right that we've been incredibly lucky. I just wanted to let people know that, although we enjoyed working with Andru and KS Landscaping, it was not a perfect job, by any means.

We have had problems with gardenias as well.  It looks like all of our neighbors who planted gardenias on our side of the street have had issues with the yellowing of the leaves.  Actually, a lot of our plants turned yellow in general - I think it's the soil here, as well as full sun exposure during the day time.  It's been consistent throughout the neighborhood.  We eventually swapped out our gardenias for something more suitable once they started dying off.  They weren't pretty to look at anyway with all the yellow leaves!

@PS2012, what did you swap your gardenias out to? We were going to check out Roger's Gardens for ideas on drought-friendly plants but would love input.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Irvine Fanatic on May 19, 2015, 12:44:15 PM
Does anyone know why HOAs require you to keep 2 feet from the wall for any structures you build like water features or built in BBQs?
Why do they all have that rule? Is it a city requirement?

Paris for your backyard you want:
Front and back landscape, Built in BBQ, Outdoor Fireplace, water feature, fake grass/stone, and cement

[previous posts: you mentioned outdoor fireplace so I added in, but you may have changed your mind]

All that mentioned above, doesn't sound simple to me. The landscaper would need to get permits to move/extend the gas line for your built in BBQ, permit to run the electrical wire to put an outlet for the water feature.

In regards to the materials,  I would not get cement, instead I would get pavers.

Oh I know we initially wanted all of those things but the quote we got from Jo was only for the water feature with stone flooring and synthetic grass. We were just going to run the lines and get BBQ and fireplace later most likely but we didn't even tell jo about running those lines.

So his quote was for stone patio, synthetic grass. Cement was only for the side yard where trash cans would be.

You should be seeing alot more of Jo nowadays. I heard he moved into Capella. I have a friend that lives there and he's working on landscapping one of the homes right now. Not sure how much they're paying but its stone work all over and they're trimming out the driveway.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on May 20, 2015, 09:25:58 PM
JoJo moved into Capella?  Business must be good.

Maybe he can give Paris a discount now since it would be a short commute to the job site.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Irvine Fanatic on May 21, 2015, 10:40:22 AM
Maybe thats why he has higher pricing now, to pay for that Capella house  :o

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: zubs on May 21, 2015, 12:48:34 PM
It's funny how driving a beater pickup truck will get you more construction work than driving a nice car.  People will think you're cheaper than the competition that drives the escalade.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: LiveAtOC on May 21, 2015, 01:37:18 PM
It's funny how driving a beater pickup truck will get you more construction work than driving a nice car.  People will think you're cheaper than the competition that drives the escalade.

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eclipxe on May 26, 2015, 10:13:00 AM
Mahe's work in Baker Ranch has been superb. No complaints from any of my neighbors. I much prefer his work to MK's work.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: mms2020 on May 27, 2015, 07:14:31 AM
Mahe's work in Baker Ranch has been superb. No complaints from any of my neighbors. I much prefer his work to MK's work.
Is that work recent (with in last year)? His work has deteriorated a lot as he has gotten busier. If you are interested in knowing more, search this forum for recent comments about him.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: v7091 on May 29, 2015, 10:37:11 AM
I'm looking to having my backyard done!! Would like to budget around $30-$40k for it!! Heard good words and got alot of referrals about Mahe!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on May 29, 2015, 10:41:41 AM
I'm looking to having my backyard done!! Would like to budget around $30-$40k for it!! Heard good words and got alot of referrals about Mahe!

In general, for that price it all depends where you live.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: whome on May 30, 2015, 09:03:22 PM
I tried calling Andru Kang but nobody picked up or returned my call. Has anybody used Savannascapes? What is the work quality and cost like? [Did a TI search - couldn't find info].

Edited to add : I did end up contacting him by email and he was very responsive while setting up a meeting.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bramha on June 04, 2015, 04:03:19 PM
Hello Everyone,

This thread has been very useful for me personally to design my backyard and finish the landscaping project.

I have hired Dunn Gardens (Lauren Dunn) for design of the backyard and contractor SavannahScapes (Sean) for landscaping. Both are good to work with and have done a great job with my backyard. Lauren is very knowledgeable and has worked with Rogers Gardens. You can't go wrong with her designs.

Sean (owner of SavannahScapes) has done lot of homes in our neighbourhood in Stonegate. He has got great excellent reviews from all the neighbours who did with him, hence I went with him. He started the project on time as promised and finished the project in 15 days. His guys came every day even on weekends to finish the job on time (i had only 1 month to submit to HOA for completion). Sean is very professional and inspected the site every day and made sure everything is according to the plan. He used quality materials for our project and never compromised on the quality of the work. He even suggested some changes and improvements which turned out very good.

I strongly recommend both Lauren and Sean for your next landscape project.

All the best.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: scubasteve on June 14, 2015, 09:48:50 AM
Hello Everyone,
Hello Everyone,

This thread has been very useful for me personally to design my backyard and finish the landscaping project.

I have hired Dunn Gardens (Lauren Dunn) for design of the backyard and contractor SavannahScapes (Sean) for landscaping. Both are good to work with and have done a great job with my backyard. Lauren is very knowledgeable and has worked with Rogers Gardens. You can't go wrong with her designs.

Sean (owner of SavannahScapes) has done lot of homes in our neighbourhood in Stonegate. He has got great excellent reviews from all the neighbours who did with him, hence I went with him. He started the project on time as promised and finished the project in 15 days. His guys came every day even on weekends to finish the job on time (i had only 1 month to submit to HOA for completion). Sean is very professional and inspected the site every day and made sure everything is according to the plan. He used quality materials for our project and never compromised on the quality of the work. He even suggested some changes and improvements which turned out very good.

I strongly recommend both Lauren and Sean for your next landscape project.

All the best.
This thread has been very useful for me personally to design my backyard and finish the landscaping project.

I have hired Dunn Gardens (Lauren Dunn) for design of the backyard and contractor SavannahScapes (Sean) for landscaping. Both are good to work with and have done a great job with my backyard. Lauren is very knowledgeable and has worked with Rogers Gardens. You can't go wrong with her designs.

Sean (owner of SavannahScapes) has done lot of homes in our neighbourhood in Stonegate. He has got great excellent reviews from all the neighbours who did with him, hence I went with him. He started the project on time as promised and finished the project in 15 days. His guys came every day even on weekends to finish the job on time (i had only 1 month to submit to HOA for completion). Sean is very professional and inspected the site every day and made sure everything is according to the plan. He used quality materials for our project and never compromised on the quality of the work. He even suggested some changes and improvements which turned out very good.

I strongly recommend both Lauren and Sean for your next landscape project.

All the best.

how much did each of them charge and what was done?  I'm looking to get my backyard done.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: whome on June 24, 2015, 11:14:15 AM
Do you recommend buying plants/planting soil through the contractor or own your own?
If we go with Go Pavers, he said he'd help us pick plants and install them but we would have to buy the plants, plant soil and bark chips ourselves.
If we go with a regular landscaper we can buy the plants and plantsoil through him so he will warranty it as well.

What do you guys recommend? How expensive is plant soil? What about plants? (I am thinking of podacarpus + star jasmine and maybe a tree depending on HOA and cost)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on June 24, 2015, 11:52:03 AM
If Go Pavers will install your plants + soil + bark chips without any extra install cost I say go for it. 

Everything is cheaper if you buy it yourself.  Based on what you're planning, I would suggest getting everything from Home Depot (they have all the plants you're looking for) and they will warranty them for 1 year. 

At first I thought "who would buy plants from Home Depot" but after looking carefully at them, they seem pretty healthy and the price at HD will be cheaper than any local nursery.  If you're getting a large amount of plants you can find some good nurseries in Buena Park / Anaheim / etc. for lower price and they will usually deliver free for purchases over $700ish...
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: whome on June 24, 2015, 12:29:16 PM
If Go Pavers will install your plants + soil + bark chips without any extra install cost I say go for it. 

Everything is cheaper if you buy it yourself.  Based on what you're planning, I would suggest getting everything from Home Depot (they have all the plants you're looking for) and they will warranty them for 1 year. 

At first I thought "who would buy plants from Home Depot" but after looking carefully at them, they seem pretty healthy and the price at HD will be cheaper than any local nursery.  If you're getting a large amount of plants you can find some good nurseries in Buena Park / Anaheim / etc. for lower price and they will usually deliver free for purchases over $700ish...

GoPavers is charging me 1250 or thereabouts for installation of plants + soil + irrigation. However the overall cost including pavers is almost 1000 bucks more than the other landscaper (there is the 'small jobs' cost that go pavers charges etc). And this is without the cost of plants with GoPavers. BUT it looks like the landscaping will be done quicker with go pavers. Tricky decision!! :)

Thanks for the Home Depot rec.

Also do you guys recommend micro drip or bubblers in the planter area?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on June 24, 2015, 04:58:55 PM
@whome - go pavers may not be the cheapest but they get the job done fast, you wont have the issue of a contractor showing up 2 days this week, 3 days next week, etc. they laid down about 1,500 sq ft of pavers for me in days. very professional.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: whome on June 25, 2015, 07:32:06 AM
@whome - go pavers may not be the cheapest but they get the job done fast, you wont have the issue of a contractor showing up 2 days this week, 3 days next week, etc. they laid down about 1,500 sq ft of pavers for me in days. very professional.

@ Qwerty - Yes - that is a HUGE plus with GoPavers. They said they can start as soon as the plans are approved by the HOA. The other landscaper said they can start within 30 days of HOA approval. But once they start they said they'll finish with 4-5 days.

My only worry with GoPavers is that since I have zero plant knowledge, am I digging myself into a hole if I go with go pavers?

I have no idea where to buy good plant soil (organic soil with slow release fertilizers) etc. Any tips?

Also what pavers did you use??
 I was thinking of going with Belgard Dublin Cobble. Our backyard is super tiny so we are tempted to go with really nice pavers.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: scubasteve on June 27, 2015, 12:06:53 PM
It's been so hard getting a hold of KS Landscaping.  I guess they must be really busy. 

I did hit up Sean from SavannaScapes and he seemed like a really cool guy.  Does this sound expensive? I only spent $4000 on my first yard with a non-license contractor (super small yard) and I want to do it right this time.  My yard is pretty tiny (Mulberry, 3500 sqft lot):

Drains: $900
Soil prep, irrigation, barkchip: $1200
15 lights: $1350
Travertine Tiles: $8740
Gasline for BBQ: $950
Sub-Total: $13140

Plants (30 x 5gallon Podocarpus): $975

40 ft retaining stone wall: $4000

Total: $18115
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Irvine Dream on June 27, 2015, 12:32:49 PM
It's been so hard getting a hold of KS Landscaping.  I guess they must be really busy. 

I did hit up Sean from SavannaScapes and he seemed like a really cool guy.  Does this sound expensive? I only spent $4000 on my first yard with a non-license contractor (super small yard) and I want to do it right this time.  My yard is pretty tiny (Mulberry, 3500 sqft lot):

Drains: $900
Soil prep, irrigation, barkchip: $1200
15 lights: $1350
Travertine Tiles: $8740
Gasline for BBQ: $950
Sub-Total: $13140

Plants (30 x 5gallon Podocarpus): $975

40 ft retaining stone wall: $4000

Total: $18115

Based on previous posts by home owners that seems like super cheap
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on June 27, 2015, 12:39:10 PM
It's been so hard getting a hold of KS Landscaping.  I guess they must be really busy. 

I did hit up Sean from SavannaScapes and he seemed like a really cool guy.  Does this sound expensive? I only spent $4000 on my first yard with a non-license contractor (super small yard) and I want to do it right this time.  My yard is pretty tiny (Mulberry, 3500 sqft lot):

Drains: $900
Soil prep, irrigation, barkchip: $1200
15 lights: $1350
Travertine Tiles: $8740
Gasline for BBQ: $950
Sub-Total: $13140

Plants (30 x 5gallon Podocarpus): $975

40 ft retaining stone wall: $4000

Total: $18115

I just remember when I got a quote. That he uses the top quality products. (Such as metal drain covers instead of the plastic drain covers)

I didn't go with them.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on June 27, 2015, 12:40:08 PM
It's been so hard getting a hold of KS Landscaping.  I guess they must be really busy. 

I did hit up Sean from SavannaScapes and he seemed like a really cool guy.  Does this sound expensive? I only spent $4000 on my first yard with a non-license contractor (super small yard) and I want to do it right this time.  My yard is pretty tiny (Mulberry, 3500 sqft lot):

Drains: $900
Soil prep, irrigation, barkchip: $1200
15 lights: $1350
Travertine Tiles: $8740
Gasline for BBQ: $950
Sub-Total: $13140

Plants (30 x 5gallon Podocarpus): $975

40 ft retaining stone wall: $4000

Total: $18115

I would try KS, text him.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: scubasteve on June 27, 2015, 01:05:12 PM
It's been so hard getting a hold of KS Landscaping.  I guess they must be really busy. 

I did hit up Sean from SavannaScapes and he seemed like a really cool guy.  Does this sound expensive? I only spent $4000 on my first yard with a non-license contractor (super small yard) and I want to do it right this time.  My yard is pretty tiny (Mulberry, 3500 sqft lot):

Drains: $900
Soil prep, irrigation, barkchip: $1200
15 lights: $1350
Travertine Tiles: $8740
Gasline for BBQ: $950
Sub-Total: $13140

Plants (30 x 5gallon Podocarpus): $975

40 ft retaining stone wall: $4000

Total: $18115

I just remember when I got a quote. That he uses the top quality products. (Such as metal drain covers instead of the plastic drain covers)

I didn't go with them.

Any particular reason why you didn't go with Savanna over KS if they used quality parts and are cheaper? 

I actually got on the phone with Andrew once (from KS) and scheduled a time for him to come by.  I had to reschedule and have sent about 4-5 texts with no response.  I'll try emailing next, but I don't have a good feeling if he can't even respond to texts.  The main reason why I would even consider them at this point is because so many people used them on this board.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on June 27, 2015, 01:46:37 PM
It's been so hard getting a hold of KS Landscaping.  I guess they must be really busy. 

I did hit up Sean from SavannaScapes and he seemed like a really cool guy.  Does this sound expensive? I only spent $4000 on my first yard with a non-license contractor (super small yard) and I want to do it right this time.  My yard is pretty tiny (Mulberry, 3500 sqft lot):

Drains: $900
Soil prep, irrigation, barkchip: $1200
15 lights: $1350
Travertine Tiles: $8740
Gasline for BBQ: $950
Sub-Total: $13140

Plants (30 x 5gallon Podocarpus): $975

40 ft retaining stone wall: $4000

Total: $18115

I just remember when I got a quote. That he uses the top quality products. (Such as metal drain covers instead of the plastic drain covers)

I didn't go with them.

Any particular reason why you didn't go with Savanna over KS if they used quality parts and are cheaper? 


Actually S. was kind of high for me. The parts is non issue to me.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: whome on June 27, 2015, 06:26:56 PM
It's been so hard getting a hold of KS Landscaping.  I guess they must be really busy. 

I did hit up Sean from SavannaScapes and he seemed like a really cool guy.  Does this sound expensive? I only spent $4000 on my first yard with a non-license contractor (super small yard) and I want to do it right this time.  My yard is pretty tiny (Mulberry, 3500 sqft lot):

Drains: $900
Soil prep, irrigation, barkchip: $1200
15 lights: $1350
Travertine Tiles: $8740
Gasline for BBQ: $950
Sub-Total: $13140

Plants (30 x 5gallon Podocarpus): $975

40 ft retaining stone wall: $4000

Total: $18115

I just remember when I got a quote. That he uses the top quality products. (Such as metal drain covers instead of the plastic drain covers)

I didn't go with them.

Any particular reason why you didn't go with Savanna over KS if they used quality parts and are cheaper? 

I actually got on the phone with Andrew once (from KS) and scheduled a time for him to come by.  I had to reschedule and have sent about 4-5 texts with no response.  I'll try emailing next, but I don't have a good feeling if he can't even respond to texts.  The main reason why I would even consider them at this point is because so many people used them on this board.

I couldn't get a hold of KS over phone but Andu responded to my email. Was very communicative till we met. After that, he was supposed to give me a quote but never did. I didn't bother following up with him because I really liked the other two that I was vetting (Savanna scapes and Go Pavers).

We have finally decided to go with Sean at Savannascapes because his price was lower and he will replace plants himself if they don't work out. We were very close to going with Go Pavers (highly recommend Aaron Barnes) but Sean said he could accommodate our schedule.

He seems to be charging a bit more for me for drains+ irrigations + soil (2500 total) and around 30/plant for the podacarpus.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: scubasteve on June 27, 2015, 07:40:10 PM
It's been so hard getting a hold of KS Landscaping.  I guess they must be really busy. 

I did hit up Sean from SavannaScapes and he seemed like a really cool guy.  Does this sound expensive? I only spent $4000 on my first yard with a non-license contractor (super small yard) and I want to do it right this time.  My yard is pretty tiny (Mulberry, 3500 sqft lot):

Drains: $900
Soil prep, irrigation, barkchip: $1200
15 lights: $1350
Travertine Tiles: $8740
Gasline for BBQ: $950
Sub-Total: $13140

Plants (30 x 5gallon Podocarpus): $975

40 ft retaining stone wall: $4000

Total: $18115

I just remember when I got a quote. That he uses the top quality products. (Such as metal drain covers instead of the plastic drain covers)

I didn't go with them.

Any particular reason why you didn't go with Savanna over KS if they used quality parts and are cheaper? 

I actually got on the phone with Andrew once (from KS) and scheduled a time for him to come by.  I had to reschedule and have sent about 4-5 texts with no response.  I'll try emailing next, but I don't have a good feeling if he can't even respond to texts.  The main reason why I would even consider them at this point is because so many people used them on this board.

I couldn't get a hold of KS over phone but Andu responded to my email. Was very communicative till we met. After that, he was supposed to give me a quote but never did. I didn't bother following up with him because I really liked the other two that I was vetting (Savanna scapes and Go Pavers).

We have finally decided to go with Sean at Savannascapes because his price was lower and he will replace plants himself if they don't work out. We were very close to going with Go Pavers (highly recommend Aaron Barnes) but Sean said he could accommodate our schedule.

He seems to be charging a bit more for me for drains+ irrigations + soil (2500 total) and around 30/plant for the podacarpus.


Maybe you have a bigger yard than me? I got the conservatory option which cuts into my yard.

But that's great that you felt the same way about Sean. I did too, but he was the only person I contacted so far so I haven't committed yet.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: whome on June 27, 2015, 08:09:15 PM
@scubasteve - yes that's possible (I haven't seen the Mulberry models though). Our yard is very small though.
However, its also possible that since our yard is so small, he might be tagging on extra cost to make it worthwhile. At this point I am fine with that though I am asking him for the breakup.

Sean quoted me 12/sqft for the belgard pavers that I wanted. Andru said that the Belgard Pavers would run in the ballpark of 18/sqft maximum (with Sean the maximum was 12.50/sqft) which is why I got the impression that Sean was more reasonably priced/affordable.
A friend of mine recommended Sean and they had their backyard done four years ago so I thought that was a good sign..:)
Now crossing my fingers that the job goes smoothly and well! Good luck to you too!

Edited to add :  Sean's standard pavers cost $8/sq ft not 10 (as I misremembered) - so his maximum is 10.50 not 12:50.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on June 27, 2015, 09:43:02 PM
@scubasteve - yes that's possible (I haven't seen the Mulberry models though). Our yard is very small though.
However, its also possible that since our yard is so small, he might be tagging on extra cost to make it worthwhile. At this point I am fine with that though I am asking him for the breakup.

Sean quoted me 12/sqft for the belgard pavers that I wanted. Andru said that the Belgard Pavers would run in the ballpark of 18/sqft maximum (with Sean the maximum was 12.50/sqft) which is why I got the impression that Sean was more reasonably priced/affordable.
A friend of mine recommended Sean and they had their backyard done four years ago so I thought that was a good sign..:)
Now crossing my fingers that the job goes smoothly and well! Good luck to you too!

Is that $12.5/sq.ft with rebar concrete sub base or sand/gravel base? 

$12.50/ sq.ft are on par with what Go Paver charges for their paver but that Go Paver's price is with using sand and gravel base.  KS like to use concrete rebar sub base which will cost more and maybe this why KS's price is higher.  And if I remember correctly, concrete base with rebar runs close to $5/sq.ft. 





Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: seachange on June 27, 2015, 09:50:07 PM
Is $12/sq foot including installation or just the pavers?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: whome on June 27, 2015, 11:04:51 PM
Is $12/sq foot including installation or just the pavers?

It includes installation.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: whome on June 27, 2015, 11:17:12 PM
@scubasteve - yes that's possible (I haven't seen the Mulberry models though). Our yard is very small though.
However, its also possible that since our yard is so small, he might be tagging on extra cost to make it worthwhile. At this point I am fine with that though I am asking him for the breakup.

Sean quoted me 12/sqft for the belgard pavers that I wanted. Andru said that the Belgard Pavers would run in the ballpark of 18/sqft maximum (with Sean the maximum was 12.50/sqft) which is why I got the impression that Sean was more reasonably priced/affordable.
A friend of mine recommended Sean and they had their backyard done four years ago so I thought that was a good sign..:)
Now crossing my fingers that the job goes smoothly and well! Good luck to you too!

Is that $12.5/sq.ft with rebar concrete sub base or sand/gravel base? 

$12.50/ sq.ft are on par with what Go Paver charges for their paver but that Go Paver's price is with using sand and gravel base.  KS like to use concrete rebar sub base which will cost more and maybe this why KS's price is higher.  And if I remember correctly, concrete base with rebar runs close to $5/sq.ft.

Got it - that makes sense..The most expensive belgard does run to 16/sqft even with go pavers so I thought maybe that was what Andru was referring to. But what you say makes sense..
I have no idea what rebar means but I will google that later..:)
I think savannascapes uses class 2 road base like go pavers but I can't find the exact info to crosscheck but I will check and update this post.
Good to know these details - Thanks!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Paris on June 30, 2015, 05:25:43 AM
We just got a quote from Savannah Scapes and they seem reasonable. Considering going with them. Anyone else have a good experience with them?
Do you think for plants I should go through contractor OR directly through a nursery?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: whome on June 30, 2015, 06:57:11 AM
We just got a quote from Savannah Scapes and they seem reasonable. Considering going with them. Anyone else have a good experience with them?
Do you think for plants I should go through contractor OR directly through a nursery?

Not sure if you read the previous posts- but we are going with them. A friend of mine who recommended them had his backyard done 4 years ago. So I am assuming that's a good sign if he still recommends them. Aquabliss and Lucky (on another thread) also said they had a good experience with them.

I am getting the plants through them because they will replace it if something goes wrong. The nurseries will also warranty plants for a year but I am assuming we will have to pay 'labor' to them to replant if something goes wrong.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on June 30, 2015, 07:22:15 AM
We just got a quote from Savannah Scapes and they seem reasonable. Considering going with them. Anyone else have a good experience with them?
Do you think for plants I should go through contractor OR directly through a nursery?

Not sure if you read the previous posts- but we are going with them. A friend of mine who recommended them had his backyard done 4 years ago. So I am assuming that's a good sign if he still recommends them. Aquabliss and Lucky (on another thread) also said they had a good experience with them.

I am getting the plants through them because they will replace it if something goes wrong. The nurseries will also warranty plants for a year but I am assuming we will have to pay 'labor' to them to replant if something goes wrong.

Home Depot and lowes also warranties the plant for a year.

How hard is to plant a "plant"? (However, grown developed tree might take some manpower to plant. Anything else you can do it your self)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Paris on June 30, 2015, 08:51:31 AM
We just got a quote from Savannah Scapes and they seem reasonable. Considering going with them. Anyone else have a good experience with them?
Do you think for plants I should go through contractor OR directly through a nursery?

Not sure if you read the previous posts- but we are going with them. A friend of mine who recommended them had his backyard done 4 years ago. So I am assuming that's a good sign if he still recommends them. Aquabliss and Lucky (on another thread) also said they had a good experience with them.

I am getting the plants through them because they will replace it if something goes wrong. The nurseries will also warranty plants for a year but I am assuming we will have to pay 'labor' to them to replant if something goes wrong.

Yes I did read your previous post which was reassuring, esp the satisfied custome 4 years later  :) And they have good yelp reviews.
I guess I'll have to get a quote on the plants, haven't got to that yet
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: whome on June 30, 2015, 08:56:07 AM
We just got a quote from Savannah Scapes and they seem reasonable. Considering going with them. Anyone else have a good experience with them?
Do you think for plants I should go through contractor OR directly through a nursery?

Not sure if you read the previous posts- but we are going with them. A friend of mine who recommended them had his backyard done 4 years ago. So I am assuming that's a good sign if he still recommends them. Aquabliss and Lucky (on another thread) also said they had a good experience with them.

I am getting the plants through them because they will replace it if something goes wrong. The nurseries will also warranty plants for a year but I am assuming we will have to pay 'labor' to them to replant if something goes wrong.

Home Depot and lowes also warranties the plant for a year.

How hard is to plant a "plant"? (However, grown developed tree might take some manpower to plant. Anything else you can do it your self)

Lol.. Yeah. Though i have never planted anything as an adult.
But we are getting a tree which might require root barriers.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on June 30, 2015, 10:07:26 AM
I would get plants through the landscapers too, maybe not all but at least the larger ones.

Just think the amount of work require to transport these big plants and the labor required to dig those big hole on the ground.

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on June 30, 2015, 10:11:57 AM
I would get plants through the landscapers too, maybe not all but at least the larger ones.

Just think the amount of work require to transport these big plants and the labor required to dig those big hole on the ground.



Yea.  We got all trees and everything in the front yard through the landscaper.  All the little plants in the backyard we did/are doing ourselves.  The markup is pretty steep on the plants through the landscaper....

There are also some plants that are hard to get - only certain nurseries have them, so those we tasked our landscaper with. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on June 30, 2015, 11:34:43 AM
We just got a quote from Savannah Scapes and they seem reasonable. Considering going with them. Anyone else have a good experience with them?
Do you think for plants I should go through contractor OR directly through a nursery?

I used SavannaScapes earlier this year and they did a great job, no issues.  The best part is that they are quick and efficient.  They work 6 days a week and missed maybe 1-2 days out of the 5 weeks it took to complete.  Neighbors of mine who started at the same time as me are still waiting for their contractors to return months later. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on June 30, 2015, 11:49:39 AM
We just got a quote from Savannah Scapes and they seem reasonable. Considering going with them. Anyone else have a good experience with them?
Do you think for plants I should go through contractor OR directly through a nursery?

savanna scapes did several homes in columbus square, the work came out nice.  we bought our plants directly from DM nursery in orange. their orange location is the only one open to the public - its pretty big (that is what she said :-). they deliver if you spend more than $500 (or around that) which you will easily hit. they have a very good selection. then you can just pay savanna scapes to plant them for you.

http://dmcolorexpress.net/
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: scubasteve on June 30, 2015, 12:20:08 PM
We are also going with Sean and Savanna Scapes.  Looks like they are getting a lot of business here.  Will keep everyone posted. I'm planning on getting all my plants thru them because 1) I do not have a greenthumb and 2) I don't have the time to dig out holes. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: whome on June 30, 2015, 12:21:38 PM
We just got a quote from Savannah Scapes and they seem reasonable. Considering going with them. Anyone else have a good experience with them?
Do you think for plants I should go through contractor OR directly through a nursery?

savanna scapes did several homes in columbus square, the work came out nice.  we bought our plants directly from DM nursery in orange. their orange location is the only one open to the public - its pretty big (that is what she said :-). they deliver if you spend more than $500 (or around that) which you will easily hit. they have a very good selection. then you can just pay savanna scapes to plant them for you.

http://dmcolorexpress.net/

Yup - this is what I was planning on doing when I was thinking of going with go pavers (I found qwerty's rec on another thread or in an earlier page- Thanks Qwerty!). Somebody also mentioned Emily's garden which gets good reviews.

When you compare prices make sure to add, the price to plant ,to it. For example a 5 gallon of podacarpus costs around 22$ at lowe's. Sean charges around $10 per plant to install. He is charging us around 30/plant if we go through him.. So in this case it doesn't make much of a difference. But it might depending on the plant.

A tree (depending on size) would cost quite a bit more to plant so make sure to factor that cost in.

Edited : I keep saying install instead of plant. edited to change that :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: JadedOne on August 12, 2015, 07:37:17 PM
I doubt anyone is monitoring this thread anymore, but wanted to say thanks to everyone that's contributed as it's been very helpful. My new Stonegate home will be completed in a few months and I'm trying to ballpark all the costs, so threads like this are awesome.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvine buyer on August 13, 2015, 08:11:36 AM
I hope the owner of Echo Family reads this post and will take the comments constructively.  They have done a few homes in my PS community but compared to other landscapers, their workers seem to be unable to contain their mess while they work on the home's landscaping.  The home they are currently working on is at the entrance to our community and unfortunately I have to pass by it everyday.  They pile their construction materials onto the grass median, the sidewalk and the street.  At the end of the day, they do leave a walking path along the sidewalk but leave the materials on the grass median and street.  On more than one occasion, their trucks block the majority of the street, even when they are done loading and unloading.  Please park the truck parallel to the street, not perpendicular to the street.  Once, I saw their truck parked on the grass median and sidewalk so that it could be up against the lot. This just strikes me as a contractor that is inconsiderate of the neighbors and the neighborhood.  The grass on the median is now half dead, and so that now becomes the HOA's responsibility to replace. I've seen several landscapers working in my community and none, including my landscaper, need to spread out their construction materials in front like Echo Family does.  I hope the owner will take positive action so that future neighbors where they work don't have to put up with their "mess".
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on August 13, 2015, 08:28:15 AM
Just give them a call and voice your concerns.
(949) 533-4055

I had a contractor working near my home with similar issues... "Good Morning Landscape", they left some material on my property and were making a mess in front.  I just called him directly to discuss and he had his guys fix the issues.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on August 13, 2015, 09:10:52 AM
@irvine buyer - post pictures, maybe your over reacting or maybe not
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvine buyer on August 13, 2015, 11:37:43 AM
I had, for a moment, thought about taking a picture of the long bed truck that was blocking the street (and my way) so I could forward to Keystone Pacific.  Then I asked myself if someone at KP would do anything about it and concluded it was probably a waste of my time...so no pictures.  A neighbor said he talked to the owner and was met with a less than friendly person who complained about how small the front and back yards are and that he doesn't have enough space to put things.  That is why I chose not to call and complain to him.

The difference is this.  Echo has all the construction materials delivered upfront. At the beginning of the job, a big mound of sand, along with pallets of concrete block, mortar, concrete mix and other materials are delivered to the property.  The contractor we used delivered materials as needed.  Perhaps that is less efficient for him but the benefit is that we were able to park on our driveway in the evenings.  We have built-in seating, flash walls, and 12 linear feet of BBQ island in the back yard, so there was a lot of concrete blocks and bags of mortar delivered.  It was all moved to the back yard the same day and the mixing and construction of these items were all done in the back yard, leaving no mess in the front.  Echo prefers to leave the mixer in front and use wheelbarrows to haul the mix to the backyard.

There have been at least six different landscape contractors working in our neighborhood.  The only contractor that seems to need that much space in front for their construction materials is Echo. 

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvine buyer on August 13, 2015, 07:29:16 PM
@eyephone  This picture was taken this evening.  Keep in mind that a good portion of the building materials have been used already.  Your thoughts.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: qwerty on August 13, 2015, 08:38:12 PM
Yeah that's pretty excessive.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on August 13, 2015, 10:07:52 PM
Yeah that's pretty excessive.
That's just qwerhoa style.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Paris on August 13, 2015, 10:14:26 PM
@eyephone  This picture was taken this evening.  Keep in mind that a good portion of the building materials have been used already.  Your thoughts.

Report that to the City of Irvine. They are not supposed to do that, esp leave materials on the street and blocking the sidewalk. That's public property and not authorized. That is what my landscaper was telling me. It's a hazard to the neighbors and if there are kids riding bikes etc on the street they can get hurt.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on August 13, 2015, 11:39:03 PM
Ya that's crazy, materials on the street like that is not ok.

And the port-a-potty on the HOA lawn... Yuck.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: whome on August 16, 2015, 11:11:41 AM
Just wanted to update this post with our landscaping experience.

Sean is almost done with our backyard (except for a tree in the corner) and we are really happy with him so far. There was a bit of a delay initially for submission of hoa plans (as his guy delayed the delivery of samples) but other than that working with him has been virtually hassle free (unlike a few other vendors that we have used). He sometimes takes a couple of days to respond but he always does.
He started when he said he would and was done in a week.

I would recommend him without reservation.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: whome on August 16, 2015, 11:12:09 AM
Just wanted to update this post with our landscaping experience.

Sean is almost done with our backyard (except for a tree in the corner) and we are really happy with him so far. There was a bit of a delay initially for submission of hoa plans (as his guy delayed the delivery of samples) but other than that working with him has been virtually hassle free (unlike a few other vendors that we have used). He sometimes takes a couple of days to respond but he always does.
He started when he said he would and was done in a week.

I would recommend him without reservation.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: scubasteve on August 18, 2015, 07:16:56 AM
I also had Sean & SavannaScapes work on my yard and I am very pleased with the results.

We have a very small yard and Sean provided great recommendations. He is very professional does things the right way. I like how he's not in a rush to finish the job and leave like the previous landscapers we used at our old house.

Excellent communication, experience with working with HOAs and is fairly quick. It took about 2 weeks to complete the hardscape which consisted of travertine pavers and a retaining false wall w/ stone veneers. It took another week to install the irrigation system, electrical system, and plants. The only left for him to do is to order a few more plants and touch up the stucco wall with paint near the ground level.

I'm pretty sure he's not the cheapest, but it's worth the peace of mind going with someone that is licensed and will hopefully be around afterwards if something happened to our yard (lifetime warranty on cracks in our pavers).

We paid $18k for everything.

http://m.imgur.com/ZyVa8tF,2e8TzDO

Sean@SavannaScapes
951-295-9687
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: JadedOne on August 19, 2015, 03:49:45 PM
I also had Sean & SavannaScapes work on my yard and I am very pleased with the results.

We have a very small yard and Sean provided great recommendations. He is very professional does things the right way. I like how he's not in a rush to finish the job and leave like the previous landscapers we used at our old house.

Excellent communication, experience with working with HOAs and is fairly quick. It took about 2 weeks to complete the hardscape which consisted of travertine pavers and a retaining false wall w/ stone veneers. It took another week to install the irrigation system, electrical system, and plants. The only left for him to do is to order a few more plants and touch up the stucco wall with paint near the ground level.

I'm pretty sure he's not the cheapest, but it's worth the peace of mind going with someone that is licensed and will hopefully be around afterwards if something happened to our yard (lifetime warranty on cracks in our pavers).

We paid $18k for everything.

http://m.imgur.com/ZyVa8tF,2e8TzDO

Sean@SavannaScapes
951-295-9687

Beautiful yard! I imagine much of the cost for yours was in the materials/tile? My yard is going to be about 3x the depth and I was hoping to have a bbq island, custom fountain, and shade structure built. I don't need the yard to be tiled but was hoping to keep it under $45K. Not sure that's going to be possible...

Also a question for those of you with completed backyards. How did you pay? Credit card, check, etc? Was it split into multiple payments? If so, how many? Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: tentfox on August 19, 2015, 05:11:01 PM
Has anyone tried doing their landscaping themselves? If so, how complicated did you attempt? Did you try to lay pavers, tiles, build a bbq or even a pergola?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: incognito on August 20, 2015, 12:26:05 AM
Also a question for those of you with completed backyards. How did you pay? Credit card, check, etc? Was it split into multiple payments? If so, how many? Thanks in advance!

Most won't take credit card, they don't want to have to pay credit card processing fee. It's typically check broken out into multiple payments, with the last payment at completion. The payment schedule will vary and depends on what you can negotiate with them.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: scubasteve on August 20, 2015, 07:36:41 AM
We paid cash (5% discount). Paid 1K deposit before they started any work; 30% after hardscape; 30% after irrigation/electrical/gas line completed; 30% after plants were put in. Remaining fee to be paid when HOA approves
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: JadedOne on August 20, 2015, 09:17:39 AM
Thanks for the payments info...this will help with my budgeting.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ilikepizza on August 23, 2015, 06:46:42 PM
Is it customary to have to wait until close of escrow to submit landscaping plans to HOA?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on August 23, 2015, 08:25:05 PM
Is it customary to have to wait until close of escrow to submit landscaping plans to HOA?


You should check with your HOA because for my HOA, they will not able to accept the plan until you own the home and have the HOA account setup.   

And yes, most people wait after COE before they submit the plans if they submit the plan at all. :)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on August 23, 2015, 08:38:31 PM
Is it customary to have to wait until close of escrow to submit landscaping plans to HOA?

Of course after you officially buy the house. The buyer might not qualify for the loan, walk away, or some other reason..

So it doesn't make sence for the Hoa to review the landscaping plan.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ilikepizza on August 24, 2015, 11:48:53 AM
Ok. Thanks.  I wanted everything ready to go right when we close.  But I guess it's not that smooth. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on August 24, 2015, 12:11:49 PM
I have neighbors who closed escrow 18 months ago and haven't even started their landscaping... slackers.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: JadedOne on August 24, 2015, 02:25:13 PM
I have neighbors who closed escrow 18 months ago and haven't even started their landscaping... slackers.

Aren't there HOA rules against this? Stonegate provides 9 months to submit plans and 12 months for completion. I assume your neighbors are getting fined?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on August 25, 2015, 10:33:30 PM
Yep the deadline for landscape completion is 12 months.  I have no idea if they're getting fined or not, if the fines are compounding, etc.  I wonder this a lot though about violators and those who don't complete their landscaping on time.

Another neighbor across the street has been sitting with front yard landscaping halfway complete for 4 months, not sure what happened there either.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on August 26, 2015, 06:19:50 AM
Yep the deadline for landscape completion is 12 months.  I have no idea if they're getting fined or not, if the fines are compounding, etc.  I wonder this a lot though about violators and those who don't complete their landscaping on time.

Another neighbor across the street has been sitting with front yard landscaping halfway complete for 4 months, not sure what happened there either.

Yea I don't know what's worse. Staring at weeds or staring at a half completed project with construction supplies littering the yard.  I'm assuming the ones that stop midway either fired their contractor or their contractor left them high and dry?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on August 26, 2015, 10:45:36 AM
I think a lot of people started the job prior to HOA approval then they received rejection letters specifying a part of their plan that needs to be changed / updated. 

If this is the case they either have to refile and add a variance, or change the plan and have the landscaper stop until the new plan has been approved.  Either of which takes months with our HOA as you know I'm sure.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: bones on August 26, 2015, 10:55:50 AM
I think a lot of people started the job prior to HOA approval then they received rejection letters specifying a part of their plan that needs to be changed / updated. 

If this is the case they either have to refile and add a variance, or change the plan and have the landscaper stop until the new plan has been approved.  Either of which takes months with our HOA as you know I'm sure.

Oh ya. Good point. And yup. Know all too well. Got dinged once and had to do an appeal of sorts another time.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Irvinecommuter on August 26, 2015, 11:09:57 AM
Slight tangent:  Anyone have recommendations for a gardner?  Need someone to come like once a month to maintain and replant if necessary.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Happiness on August 26, 2015, 11:14:48 AM
Yards of Irvine homes are so small, do you actually need a landscaper?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on August 26, 2015, 01:27:17 PM
Yards of Irvine homes are so small, do you actually need a landscaper?

Do you think the forum users know how to lay pavers, plot irrigation, slope the soil, etc?

If you want to do gravel and cactus you can do it yourself.... otherwise you're gonna need to hire soemone who knows what they're doing (hopefully).
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: hehegrl on March 11, 2016, 09:08:51 AM
has anyone contacted Savanna Scapes recently? I called the number on their website and used the form on their website to leave my info but they never responded.

http://www.savannascapes.com/

or should I just use the phone number the was posted on this thread??

thanks

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Paris on March 11, 2016, 05:41:06 PM
has anyone contacted Savanna Scapes recently? I called the number on their website and used the form on their website to leave my info but they never responded.

http://www.savannascapes.com/

or should I just use the phone number the was posted on this thread??

thanks

Sent you a PM
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Bomberman949 on March 14, 2016, 01:54:39 PM
What is your experience with savanna scape? I'm considering them along with a few others. Would like to get some reference if anybody worked with them before.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Paris on March 15, 2016, 12:29:52 PM
What is your experience with savanna scape? I'm considering them along with a few others. Would like to get some reference if anybody worked with them before.

Thanks.

We had a good experience with them. Definitely one of the more reasonable landscape companies out there that provide good quality work for a good price. And they are very responsive to any concerns you may have after the job is done (even after you have paid them). I would definitely recommend them although these days they are pretty busy with jobs lined up so if you're thinking about using them I would book quickly.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: hehegrl on March 17, 2016, 08:34:21 AM
Thanks again Paris for the info and insight. 

What is your experience with savanna scape? I'm considering them along with a few others. Would like to get some reference if anybody worked with them before.

Thanks.

Bomberman949 - What other contractors are you considering? I got a few of them to come out to do some measurements but I haven't heard from them in a week in regards to giving me a quote.  And one of them didn't even bother showing up at the agreed time.  The only person that actually gave me a quote the same day was Sean @ Savanna Scapes. 



Is there a general time frame one should wait for contractors to come back at you with a quote?

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Irvine Fanatic on March 17, 2016, 09:10:19 AM
Thanks again Paris for the info and insight. 

What is your experience with savanna scape? I'm considering them along with a few others. Would like to get some reference if anybody worked with them before.

Thanks.

Bomberman949 - What other contractors are you considering? I got a few of them to come out to do some measurements but I haven't heard from them in a week in regards to giving me a quote.  And one of them didn't even bother showing up at the agreed time.  The only person that actually gave me a quote the same day was Sean @ Savanna Scapes. 



Is there a general time frame one should wait for contractors to come back at you with a quote?

Most of the time the reason they don't respond back is because the job isn't big enough for them to make a decent return. And one thing to really scare them away is if you already indicated your budget, which may or may not be realistic. I would give it a week. If you don't hear back then move on.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Bomberman949 on March 20, 2016, 12:08:05 AM
Savannah gave the quote on the same day. I'm waiting for jefferson rand and KS - both of them asked for 1-2 weeks to come back with design and quote.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Perspective on April 07, 2016, 09:08:10 AM
Our backyard landscaping project started this week. One difference we're experiencing, from what I've witnessed occur at neighbors' houses, is the timing of delivery and removal of things. For example, many neighbors' driveways would store broken concrete for weeks before it was taken away, and their driveways would store huge piles of sand spreading into the softscape for many days/weeks. This saves the landscaper time/money.

Our broken concrete was removed the day after it was placed in our driveway, and our landscaper delivers supplies daily as needed. I wish I could share how much of a premium this costs (might no be worth it?), but I was only able to get two quotes despite contacting a dozen companies and meeting four.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Happiness on April 07, 2016, 10:01:57 AM
Our backyard landscaping project started this week. One difference we're experiencing, from what I've witnessed occur at neighbors' houses, is the timing of delivery and removal of things. For example, many neighbors' driveways would store broken concrete for weeks before it was taken away, and their driveways would store huge piles of sand spreading into the softscape for many days/weeks. This saves the landscaper time/money.

Our broken concrete was removed the day after it was placed in our driveway, and our landscaper delivers supplies daily as needed. I wish I could share how much of a premium this costs (might no be worth it?), but I was only able to get two quotes despite contacting a dozen companies and meeting four.
If plants are delivered to your property and not planted within a day, make sure you keep them watered in their nursery pots. Don't rely on the landscaper. To save money, landscapers often deliver a truckload of plants at the same time and plant over many days.

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Bullsback on April 07, 2016, 03:54:56 PM
Roughly speaking, how much is your job costing perspective. What general sort of hardscape, etc?  Fireplace or anything fancy? 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Perspective on April 07, 2016, 04:39:44 PM
Roughly speaking, how much is your job costing perspective. What general sort of hardscape, etc?  Fireplace or anything fancy?

We'll have square concrete "pads" (poured concrete in a washed finish) on the sides of the house allowing softscape on both sides and between each square pad, pavers under the CA room extending out and over to cover a large area off of a sliding door, and a fireplace outside of the CA room. A third of the yard will be mulch for a kids' swing/playset, and then grass when the playset's gone.

The backyard's not too big: ~20' setback on center, ~15' setback on one side and ~30' setback on the other. In other words the rear block wall is at an angle. The total is $36K, but $15K of that is the fireplace. It will be 6'+ tall with an hearth extending out on both sides, and faced in the same stone that's on the house.

The softscape will be the typical stuff, but we're including three large trees too.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Perspective on April 08, 2016, 09:17:27 AM
In addition to landscapers using one trip deliveries for supplies, I think another reason why driveways are overrun with stuff while landscaping is due to the typical Irvine backyard. It's popular to pave the entire sides of the house and all of the backyard but for a slim ~2' perimeter. This leaves no space in the backyard to keep supplies and tools during the project.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: whome on April 16, 2016, 11:37:44 PM
What is your experience with savanna scape? I'm considering them along with a few others. Would like to get some reference if anybody worked with them before.

Thanks.

We had a good experience with them. Definitely one of the more reasonable landscape companies out there that provide good quality work for a good price. And they are very responsive to any concerns you may have after the job is done (even after you have paid them). I would definitely recommend them although these days they are pretty busy with jobs lined up so if you're thinking about using them I would book quickly.

I agree!
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: OCVillager on March 14, 2017, 10:07:24 AM
Thanks.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: lnc on March 14, 2017, 10:42:19 AM
Hello,
I know I'm just digging this from the archives...I'm considering quotes from few landscape contractors and would like to know any latest opinions from those people that got the job completed.
The contractors I'm considering are KS, Jo, Ben (local contractor that worked on some neighbors homes) and Sean from Savanna scapes.
This thread has been really helpful. Can anyone PM me Savanna scapes working number?

Thanks.

http://www.savannascapes.com/  (800)951-5515

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: orange911 on March 14, 2017, 09:32:37 PM
Any pictures of ti backyard?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ParasolParker on March 15, 2017, 06:33:08 AM
Any DIY'ers out there that used a design from a landscape company but implemented themselves? We will have a very small backyard and found a company that does sustainable, drought resistant design work, which one can implement ourselves.  We are on a very tight budget as we have other priorities for the house to deal with first.. but this model appeals to us..

The are called The Ecology Center and seem to have done work in the Great Park Neighborhoods.


Thanks!
 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: OCVillager on March 16, 2017, 05:50:37 PM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: akkord on March 17, 2017, 07:28:21 AM
We used Mullaney, a neighbor of ours used Savanna.  Some of the companies I talked to did not want to do what I wanted, IE: flagstone would look better, let's not do pavers, sort of thing.  One also said, let's not demo the existing concrete, we'll just put stone over it. 

Mullaney was the only one who said yeah, let's demo the concrete, we'll pull water from the main line and even switched up some of the hardscaping materials when we saw something we liked better.  They changed out some of the tile pavers that I thought didn't match the color pattern (slightly darker) and fixed a couple of the stone caps that also looked a little darker than every thing else.  Mullaney did come in at few thousand more than all other quotes, but we felt comfortable working with them, they addressed all our issues, and he was responsive to what we wanted.  One negative - it did take longer than what he initially said, over 2 months when he said it would only take a week to 2 weeks, we have a small yard...it shouldn't have taken that long. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: OCVillager on March 17, 2017, 01:57:44 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on March 17, 2017, 02:04:38 PM
If you insist on a particular paver manufacturer, then ask them to put that in the contract.  You should be able to tell when they deliver the pallet to your driveway it will have the paver manufacturer name wrapped in plastic usually.  I don't think the names are printed on the actual pavers (at least I don't see it on Angelus pavers.  For travertine I'm not sure, but as long as your their when the driver delivers it, he probably has a manifest type document he can show you.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: OCVillager on March 23, 2017, 10:22:38 AM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on March 23, 2017, 10:28:16 AM
Don't always go with the low bid...
Just review the comments carefully that are left on TI and other review sites.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: aquabliss on March 27, 2017, 01:15:46 AM
Mahe will take forever, there will be days/weeks where no one shows up.  If that's OK with you then go for it, but it bugs the heck out of me.  Quality of his work may be OK but it will take 4-6 months for him to finish a 30 day job.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: janthony6 on March 27, 2017, 06:51:11 AM
Thoughts on SplashPools?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: OCVillager on March 27, 2017, 10:53:42 AM
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Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Esperanza on July 05, 2017, 03:28:38 PM
I wouldn't recommend going with Mullaney. I've also had 2 other friends use him, one in Stonegate and another in Cypress Village and thought he was okay but they went with him mainly because he was more responsive compared to others.  He does indeed respond faster, but when we worked with him he fairly often showed up late to appointments, seemed to be rushed all the time, didn't document well what we asked for so there was a lot of miscommunication, and what bothered us the most was that the quote he provided us seemed like it was just pulled out of thin air. Most of the contractors we dealt with would break down the costs per sq ft, but Mullaney wouldn't explain to us how he came up with the cost that he had. Save yourself the headache and make sure you get a quality contractor that isn't trying to just rush you through the process so that you're just another job among a bunch of other ones that he's taking on.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: ocguynew on July 11, 2017, 10:59:35 PM
Any recommendations for landscapers among Mahe, Ben and Savanah. Who charges less ?
Also input on the quality of work
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Compressed-Village on July 12, 2017, 12:45:33 PM
Ahhh the fun of buying new homes and having to do everything.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Paris on July 12, 2017, 10:46:07 PM
Ahhh the fun of buying new homes and having to do everything.

Tell me about it! It's such a pain in the ass - we've lived in our new build over 2 years now and still working on it  ::)
I don't think I will ever buy a new build again unless there is some point in my life where I'm building a custom built home by the ocean or something crazy like that.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: fduzer on July 13, 2017, 04:07:36 PM
Like Paris, I can't recommend Sean from Savannascapes enough.  His guys will be done by Saturday and they are top notch.  There was a hiccup (due to the El Dorado stone supplier discontinuing the stone I wanted and not telling us and shorting us on the amount of stone supplied) and we switched to a Santa Barbara stucco for my island very quickly.  Sean has answered all my crazy questions and been patient with my various changes with a professional and calm manner.

A+++ would landscape another house with Sean again.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: jmoney74 on July 13, 2017, 04:24:05 PM
Like Paris, I can't recommend Sean from Savannascapes enough.  His guys will be done by Saturday and they are top notch.  There was a hiccup (due to the El Dorado stone supplier discontinuing the stone I wanted and not telling us and shorting us on the amount of stone supplied) and we switched to a Santa Barbara stucco for my island very quickly.  Sean has answered all my crazy questions and been patient with my various changes with a professional and calm manner.

A+++ would landscape another house with Sean again.

you mean you CAN
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: BlackFever on July 14, 2017, 04:34:37 AM
No, fduzer can't recommend Savannascapes enough and I can't either.  He finished my home not too long ago and has been nothing short of spectacular. 
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: dethman on July 14, 2017, 08:37:06 AM
savannascapes seemed very professional on the phone when i talked to them but they don't do pools so i am getting a few bids from other companies first.  if everyone else is crap then i'll give them a ring for the landscaping  only.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on July 14, 2017, 08:48:53 AM
savannascapes seemed very professional on the phone when i talked to them but they don't do pools so i am getting a few bids from other companies first.  if everyone else is crap then i'll give them a ring for the landscaping  only.

I'm telling you ROI on a pool ain't good.
(I always hear my coworker complain about the electric bill because of the pool.)

"You don't need a pool, just use the community pool." YF
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: dethman on July 14, 2017, 11:02:32 AM
savannascapes seemed very professional on the phone when i talked to them but they don't do pools so i am getting a few bids from other companies first.  if everyone else is crap then i'll give them a ring for the landscaping  only.

I'm telling you ROI on a pool ain't good.
(I always hear my coworker complain about the electric bill because of the pool.)

"You don't need a pool, just use the community pool." YF

not everything is about ROI.  i think most who put in a pool realizes it's not a good 'investment.'  if i wanted to flip my home in 2 years, yeah a pool would not be a good idea.  but i don't.

i want my kids and my wife to be able to have a place to relax and swim on off days without 15 stupid kids screaming and splashing everywhere.  a place where i can have a party without worrying whether i can reserve a community bbq and chairs by the pool deck.  someplace where i know that no one else has peed in the pool, no old ladies are washing their feet.

i also own an expensive car (like a lot of people in irvine).  costs a lot more than a pool.  was it a good ROI?  no.  does it mean i can't enjoy it?  no.  i could have bought a civic.  it would do a similar thing.  but some things are about more than ROI.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on July 14, 2017, 11:24:30 AM
savannascapes seemed very professional on the phone when i talked to them but they don't do pools so i am getting a few bids from other companies first.  if everyone else is crap then i'll give them a ring for the landscaping  only.

I'm telling you ROI on a pool ain't good.
(I always hear my coworker complain about the electric bill because of the pool.)

"You don't need a pool, just use the community pool." YF

not everything is about ROI.  i think most who put in a pool realizes it's not a good 'investment.'  if i wanted to flip my home in 2 years, yeah a pool would not be a good idea.  but i don't.

i want my kids and my wife to be able to have a place to relax and swim on off days without 15 stupid kids screaming and splashing everywhere.  a place where i can have a party without worrying whether i can reserve a community bbq and chairs by the pool deck.  someplace where i know that no one else has peed in the pool, no old ladies are washing their feet.

i also own an expensive car (like a lot of people in irvine).  costs a lot more than a pool.  was it a good ROI?  no.  does it mean i can't enjoy it?  no.  i could have bought a civic.  it would do a similar thing.  but some things are about more than ROI.

1. Yeah you should of bought the new civic type r. (The rumor I read, not every dealership is getting one so RARE)
2. The potential liability of guests that come over to swim. (Make then sign a waver form jk)
3. If you have little ones. Maybe you should get a gate around it.
4. Too many people on TI believes the house is an investment vehicle. So that's why I brought up ROI on the pool.
5. Another thing to consider down the line if you rent your place. Are the rentors going to keep up the pool? (They are going to use it, but are they going to maintain it. Some renters might like it at first and not like the electric and water bill that goes with it.)

Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on July 14, 2017, 12:02:04 PM
ROI this !!! Dealer charging $20,000 over msrp for the new civic type R.

http://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/12130/this-dealer-is-charging-over-63000-for-a-honda-civic-type-r


Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Navigatn on July 17, 2017, 03:49:57 PM
Can anyone recommend a contractor that is willing to do a small job?  I just want brick pavers in the front yard that's approx 200 sqft.  Most of the landscapers I've called aren't interested unless the job is at least $5K.  I'd do it myself but the HOA requires plans and licensed and insured contractors.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on July 17, 2017, 03:55:36 PM
Can anyone recommend a contractor that is willing to do a small job?  I just want brick pavers in the front yard that's approx 200 sqft.  Most of the landscapers I've called aren't interested unless the job is at least $5K.  I'd do it myself but the HOA requires plans and licensed and insured contractors.

I thought you can do the job yourself as long as you submit the plans to the HOA.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Navigatn on July 17, 2017, 04:15:31 PM
Can anyone recommend a contractor that is willing to do a small job?  I just want brick pavers in the front yard that's approx 200 sqft.  Most of the landscapers I've called aren't interested unless the job is at least $5K.  I'd do it myself but the HOA requires plans and licensed and insured contractors.

I thought you can do the job yourself as long as you submit the plans to the HOA.

Here's what the CC&R reads:

Construction and Installation of Landscape/Hardscape:

1. No work may be performed upon any Lot unless the person or company performing such work (the
“Contractor”) is licensed by the State of California to perform such work and said Contractor provides
written evidence that he/she currently maintains in effect broad-form commercial general liability, errors
and omissions, automotive and workers’ compensation insurance for its employees whose services are to be
on or at the Project. Each owner who intends to hire any Contractor to repair any portion of the owners Lot
or to perform any other work on or about the Project (including any Owner Work) shall provide to the
Association evidence of the Contractors license and required insurance prior to any entry by the Contractor
or any of its employees upon or within the Project.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on July 17, 2017, 05:41:10 PM
If you did it yourself. Do you know how to install the drains for your landscape?
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: LongIrvine on July 17, 2017, 06:25:24 PM
Not terribly difficult to tap into existing drains. I'm not too handy but was able to do, running new drains and I might be singing different tune.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Navigatn on July 18, 2017, 08:57:42 AM
there're only 2 drains in the area that I would need to worry about.  I'd just score the bricks and cut them to size to fit around the drains.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Navigatn on July 18, 2017, 09:00:36 AM
If you did it yourself. Do you know how to install the drains for your landscape?

I'm no rocket scientist, but I'd lay the bricks around the existing drains sticking out of the ground.  Is laying brick pavers difficult? No.  Is it time consuming? Yes.  For 200sqft, it shouldn't take more than 2 days.  Unfortunately, with my HOA, I can't even replace a sprinkler head in my front yard without hiring a certified professional /s.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: irvinehomeowner on July 18, 2017, 09:11:54 AM
Here's what the CC&R reads:

Construction and Installation of Landscape/Hardscape:

1. No work may be performed upon any Lot unless the person or company performing such work (the
“Contractor”) is licensed by the State of California to perform such work and said Contractor provides
written evidence that he/she currently maintains in effect broad-form commercial general liability, errors
and omissions, automotive and workers’ compensation insurance for its employees whose services are to be
on or at the Project. Each owner who intends to hire any Contractor to repair any portion of the owners Lot
or to perform any other work on or about the Project (including any Owner Work) shall provide to the
Association evidence of the Contractors license and required insurance prior to any entry by the Contractor
or any of its employees upon or within the Project.

Is there more to this?

I think this applies if you are hiring someone to work on your lot, but if you are doing it yourself, this clause may not apply.

I don't think a CC&R would prevent an owner from working on their own house unless it's specialized work that requires a license such as electrical, plumbing or major landscaping projects. But if you were going to lay down sod or make your yard low water landscaped, as long as you are not putting in new irrigation and drainage (which is borderline), you should be able to DIY it.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Navigatn on July 19, 2017, 08:54:19 AM
Here's what the CC&R reads:

Construction and Installation of Landscape/Hardscape:

1. No work may be performed upon any Lot unless the person or company performing such work (the
“Contractor”) is licensed by the State of California to perform such work and said Contractor provides
written evidence that he/she currently maintains in effect broad-form commercial general liability, errors
and omissions, automotive and workers’ compensation insurance for its employees whose services are to be
on or at the Project. Each owner who intends to hire any Contractor to repair any portion of the owners Lot
or to perform any other work on or about the Project (including any Owner Work) shall provide to the
Association evidence of the Contractors license and required insurance prior to any entry by the Contractor
or any of its employees upon or within the Project.

Is there more to this?

I think this applies if you are hiring someone to work on your lot, but if you are doing it yourself, this clause may not apply.

I don't think a CC&R would prevent an owner from working on their own house unless it's specialized work that requires a license such as electrical, plumbing or major landscaping projects. But if you were going to lay down sod or make your yard low water landscaped, as long as you are not putting in new irrigation and drainage (which is borderline), you should be able to DIY it.

I've talked to neighbors and with the HOA.  Any alterations to the front/back yard that visually changes the appearance of the yard requires licensed contractors.  I received an email from the HOA about a small patch of dead grass in my front yard, so they are pretty serious when it comes to maintaining visual appeal of the community.
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: eyephone on July 19, 2017, 09:09:30 AM
Here's what the CC&R reads:

Construction and Installation of Landscape/Hardscape:

1. No work may be performed upon any Lot unless the person or company performing such work (the
“Contractor”) is licensed by the State of California to perform such work and said Contractor provides
written evidence that he/she currently maintains in effect broad-form commercial general liability, errors
and omissions, automotive and workers’ compensation insurance for its employees whose services are to be
on or at the Project. Each owner who intends to hire any Contractor to repair any portion of the owners Lot
or to perform any other work on or about the Project (including any Owner Work) shall provide to the
Association evidence of the Contractors license and required insurance prior to any entry by the Contractor
or any of its employees upon or within the Project.

Is there more to this?

I think this applies if you are hiring someone to work on your lot, but if you are doing it yourself, this clause may not apply.

I don't think a CC&R would prevent an owner from working on their own house unless it's specialized work that requires a license such as electrical, plumbing or major landscaping projects. But if you were going to lay down sod or make your yard low water landscaped, as long as you are not putting in new irrigation and drainage (which is borderline), you should be able to DIY it.

I've talked to neighbors and with the HOA.  Any alterations to the front/back yard that visually changes the appearance of the yard requires licensed contractors.  I received an email from the HOA about a small patch of dead grass in my front yard, so they are pretty serious when it comes to maintaining visual appeal of the community.
There's different ways about going about your situation. You can possibly meet with a landscaping committee member and go over your plans with them. Also, you can mention you are capable of doing it, and ask them for an exception. You can also mention that they have the final approval over the landscape. Then also you can also mention your money situation that you didn't budget this cost when you bought the house and tell them how much a licensed contractor cost and how much it will cost you to do it yourself. (Optional)

It's all up to you. I'm sure you can find a licensed contractor that is reasonable, but it might take some time to find. (Try yelp or google and search in the area that is not pricey, or call the good landscaping contractor tell them your budget and make up a story and that you will pay CASH at the end of the project)
Title: Re: Recommendations for landscaping companies
Post by: Dreamhome on September 21, 2017, 05:40:48 PM
Any recommendations for landscapers among Mahe, Ben and Savanah. Who charges less ?
Also input on the quality of work

I know this is kind of late...please don't choose Ben for any landscape work. We made an agreement with him. Work quality is so poor and still going on after more than three months. Ours is a small mini backyard. Here people call him as 12K guy no matter how small the project is.
He will beg for  money all the time and tell stories. But once 90% money down. He will take it easy.
No matter if he finishes work on time or not but the output is very poor. Especially when it comes to materials, those are the cheapest you could see ever and also the workmanship. They treat your house like trash..  >:(

Be cautious, his work is not worth the money he demands. He doesn't responds to call or keep up to his promises at all. I wouldn't recommend him to even get a quote.
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