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Title: Landscaping cost
Post by: HCM on September 21, 2018, 10:28:56 AM
I have been interviewing landscapers about my front and back yard (5,000 sq. ft lot with a 4,000+ sq. ft house on it, so basically not much yard though likely a tad bigger than typical Irvine new builds).  Received a quote for $60k to plant some planters, install tile over concrete, and build a water wall -- but that estimate does not include ANY materials, i.e., I would need to separately purchase the tiles, plants, trees, etc. 

I've never dealt with a new build before so I don't have much context but this sounds extremely expensive considering this is 60k for basically just some yard labor?  What have others been paying for landscaping and typically do homeowners have to provide the materials separately?
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Perspective on September 21, 2018, 10:35:58 AM
I have been interviewing landscapers about my front and back yard (5,000 sq. ft lot with a 4,000+ sq. ft house on it, so basically not much yard though likely a tad bigger than typical Irvine new builds).  Received a quote for $60k to plant some planters, install tile over concrete, and build a water wall -- but that estimate does not include ANY materials, i.e., I would need to separately purchase the tiles, plants, trees, etc. 

I've never dealt with a new build before so I don't have much context but this sounds extremely expensive considering this is 60k for basically just some yard labor?  What have others been paying for landscaping and typically do homeowners have to provide the materials separately?

That sounds insanely high. Put 'em on blast. Who is this?
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: HCM on September 21, 2018, 10:46:18 AM
Well, to be fair, the price does include the cost for artificial turf, two planters, and 30 LED lights.  But still, seems high considering I'd still have to go get all tiles and plants.  And they charge a planting cost per plant, e.g., $125 for a 24" box, $30 for 15 gallon plant. 

I would prefer not to say who the vendor is because it's someone's livelihood but I am having major sticker shock.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Perspective on September 21, 2018, 10:49:36 AM
Prepare to be annoyed while getting multiple estimates. Some won't even return your calls. Some will make appointments, and just not even show. I even had a guy show up, spend a ton of time talking about options, even showing me a neighbor's yard he was doing, only to never send an estimate.

I've only heard positive experiences with two companies:

Sea Breeze Landscaping
Jefferson Rand Landscaping
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Compressed-Village on September 21, 2018, 11:22:25 AM
Makes me appreciate the builders and the landscapes plannings for the community after each time I talk to a contractor.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: irvinehomeowner on September 21, 2018, 11:53:17 AM
I forgot, isn't 5 figures reasonable for landscaping new homes?

I miss ZeroLot.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: aquabliss on September 21, 2018, 12:15:07 PM
Here's what you do, find a friend that lives in some old house on a similar sized lot in the inland empire.  Use his house to meet and interview landscapers and give them apples-to-apples description of what you want to do in your yard. 

After they give you their price in writing (which will be 30% less than the Irvine price), tell them you accept their bid but want them to build the same thing in Irvine.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: HCM on September 21, 2018, 12:29:22 PM
@irvinehomeowner, yes we anticipated spending in the 5 figure range.  However, we thought total cost would be about $50k for time and materials.  If the consensus is that landscapers charge an Irvine premium, then maybe I can do some heavy negotiating to get to a reasonable premium.  Now I see why so many people in the neighborhood have been using cheap Asian-based landscapers that provide what looks like non-HOA approved generic jobs.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: bones on September 21, 2018, 12:32:34 PM
$60k for what you described seems high.  I think $50k including materials is what sounds right based on my experience.  It's also odd that the contractor doesn't include materials - does he except you to go purchase and get them to the house yourself?  I would keep looking...
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: HCM on September 21, 2018, 12:39:56 PM
Yes, when I received the estimate it lists the cost for planting based on plant size & then indicates that I can purchase plants on some website that presumably would deliver all plants to my house directly.  However, I feel like a landscaper would be in the best position to know how many of x plants I would need to cover a particular area.  If I knew how to plan all of this, I'd just hire someone to do the hardscape for me and then bring in cheap labor to put in the plants. 

I have thus far interviewed 3 landscapers.  This is the first estimate to come in.  I'm hoping one of the others will come in at a better price and for greater scope of work.  And here I had thought that dealing with the developer was bad enough.  Sigh.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: bones on September 21, 2018, 01:22:00 PM
Yes, when I received the estimate it lists the cost for planting based on plant size & then indicates that I can purchase plants on some website that presumably would deliver all plants to my house directly.  However, I feel like a landscaper would be in the best position to know how many of x plants I would need to cover a particular area.  If I knew how to plan all of this, I'd just hire someone to do the hardscape for me and then bring in cheap labor to put in the plants. 

I have thus far interviewed 3 landscapers.  This is the first estimate to come in.  I'm hoping one of the others will come in at a better price and for greater scope of work.  And here I had thought that dealing with the developer was bad enough.  Sigh.

Least fun part of new home ownership for sure. The headache doesn’t end after you pick one :) Good luck!
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Irvine Dream on September 21, 2018, 01:33:48 PM
$60k for what you described seems high.  I think $50k including materials is what sounds right based on my experience.  It's also odd that the contractor doesn't include materials - does he except you to go purchase and get them to the house yourself?  I would keep looking...
Paris will disagree *(where is she bye the way/)  If OP bought a 4,000 sq ft house in Irvine, the price is greater than 1.5 million, now don't skimp on landscape, it has be atleast $100K to be neighborhood worthy.


From memory, landscaping for Capella houses with tiny lots were more than $40k
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Kenkoko on September 21, 2018, 03:12:40 PM
60k for what you're getting is very high. My house is very similar in size to yours (3900 sqft on 5100 lot)

We built a salt water pool, spa, water feature, concrete deck, landscaping for 70k. All the materials were provided except the plants. I had to buy them myself at additional cost.

Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: HCM on September 21, 2018, 03:23:15 PM
60k for what you're getting is very high. My house is very similar in size to yours (3900 sqft on 5100 lot)

We built a salt water pool, spa, water feature, concrete deck, landscaping for 70k. All the materials were provided except the plants. I had to buy them myself at additional cost.

Hi Kenkoko, were you happy with the work done?  And if so, could you please provide your landscaper's name and contact info?  The scope of work included in my estimate is: outdoor tiling, pergola for dining area, water feature, some artificial turf, and some drought tolerant plants/florals.  Nothing too crazy or fancy, trying to keep an overall somewhat modern look.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: WTTCHMN on September 21, 2018, 03:37:40 PM
I've only heard positive experiences with two companies:

Sea Breeze Landscaping
Jefferson Rand Landscaping

Not anymore:
https://www.talkirvine.com/index.php/topic,16542.msg338800.html#msg338800
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Kenkoko on September 21, 2018, 03:39:05 PM
Hi Kenkoko, were you happy with the work done?  And if so, could you please provide your landscaper's name and contact info?  The scope of work included in my estimate is: outdoor tiling, pergola for dining area, water feature, some artificial turf, and some drought tolerant plants/florals.  Nothing too crazy or fancy, trying to keep an overall somewhat modern look.  Thanks!

Sure, I used Swam pools and Landscaping. See yelp link below. ( Not sure why they have 2 yelps)
https://www.yelp.com/biz/swan-pools-lake-forest?osq=Swan+Pools
https://www.yelp.com/biz/swan-pools-and-landscaping-lake-forest?osq=Swan+Pools

I am quite happy with the work done. They have a great designer who helped us a lot with design and gave us a drawing before starting the job at no extra cost.
They also honored their warranty and came to fix LED lights in the pool last month (more than 2 years after completion)
If you want to see some pictures, feel free to PM me.
The only small nitpick is the concrete fading/discoloration. They did tell me ahead of time but i was not expecting that much fading.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: nosuchreality on September 21, 2018, 04:43:47 PM
Unfortunately, your location and house value affects the bid. 

It's both rational and appropriate and total gouging you at the same time.



Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Irvine Dream on September 21, 2018, 07:56:18 PM
My house is very similar in size to yours (3900 sqft on 5100 lot)

We built a salt water pool, spa, water feature, concrete deck, landscaping for 70k. All the materials were provided except the plants. I had to buy them myself at additional cost.

Impressive, you were able to fit a pool, water feature, and concrete deck in a 5,100 sq ft lot with a 3,900 sq ft house?  And all for $70K.  Wow.

So for most of the developments these day landscape should be about $40k or less?
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Kenkoko on September 21, 2018, 08:32:51 PM
Impressive, you were able to fit a pool, water feature, and concrete deck in a 5,100 sq ft lot with a 3,900 sq ft house?  And all for $70K.  Wow.
Thanks! It's a small backyard 55 x 19 and a very small pool 27x8. I really regret not making the pool longer. It feels like swimming in a fish tank. I should have made it 8 to 10 feet longer by forging the outdoor dining area which looks great but I never use.  :'(

We were trying to keep the cost to below 75k. Swan Pools was the only company we found that had a computerized price quote system which instantly adjusted the price for every single change. It made it much easier to decide where to cutback and where to spend to get the most bang for the buck. We initially did not want a water feature. But we played with Swan's system and found out that we could make our pool 1 foot shallower, saving a few thousand dollars, and use that money for a small water feature.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Paris on September 22, 2018, 06:31:13 AM
$60k for what you described seems high.  I think $50k including materials is what sounds right based on my experience.  It's also odd that the contractor doesn't include materials - does he except you to go purchase and get them to the house yourself?  I would keep looking...
Paris will disagree *(where is she bye the way/)  If OP bought a 4,000 sq ft house in Irvine, the price is greater than 1.5 million, now don't skimp on landscape, it has be atleast $100K to be neighborhood worthy.


From memory, landscaping for Capella houses with tiny lots were more than $40k

We spent $25k for landscaping including all materials and I'm very happy with the quality of work.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Ready2Downsize on September 22, 2018, 04:20:17 PM
I have been interviewing landscapers about my front and back yard (5,000 sq. ft lot with a 4,000+ sq. ft house on it, so basically not much yard though likely a tad bigger than typical Irvine new builds).  Received a quote for $60k to plant some planters, install tile over concrete, and build a water wall -- but that estimate does not include ANY materials, i.e., I would need to separately purchase the tiles, plants, trees, etc. 

I've never dealt with a new build before so I don't have much context but this sounds extremely expensive considering this is 60k for basically just some yard labor?  What have others been paying for landscaping and typically do homeowners have to provide the materials separately?


My yard is bigger than that with about the same sized house. We spent about that but it included all hard and softscape and labor.


We took out and replaced the driveway and backyard patio. The hardscape is mostly travertine. We have a water feature with three bubbling pots (also included...….. I think they were a few hundred? per pot) and many self watering pots thru the yard and a built in bbq with counter for chairs, planter walls in the front and back yard.

The landscaper went with us to a large contractor only nursery in SJC while we picked out plants and got a super price on the plants which included delivery.

I would get more estimates. It seems pretty high.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: irvine buyer on September 23, 2018, 09:54:36 AM
To the OP, I would suggest getting additional bids from recommended landscapers if you are not happy with the three you receive.  Others can give you amounts they paid but you may not be able to replicate the same landscaping at the same cost for two reasons...1)material prices have gone up; some significantly, and 2) a lot of good contractors are busy and are pricing accordingly.  I know for a fact that the same contractor will price much higher today than they did in 2014 when work was not as plentiful.

As for plant materials, most good landscape contractors will purchase the plants as they get a trade discount and that is additional profit for them.  If the contractor provides plant materials they should warranty the plants for 6-12 months.

Don't fall victim to the shoddy workmanship of cheap contractors just because the bid is the lowest.  it will cost you much more in money and aggrevation down the road to fix problems that arise.  Also make sure that the estimates contain a detailed breakdown for you to make a fair comparison between bids.  There are many contractors today who are taking on more work than they can handle, so make sure there is a clause in the contract stating how long the project will take for completion.   
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: qwerty on September 23, 2018, 10:48:01 AM
Not just a clause for when it will be be completed, but a price reduction for every week that they are late. I’m guessing most won’t go for it, but if they are not lying to you then they really have no reason not to agree to it. They may pad the original completion date even more but at least you have something in writing.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Ready2Downsize on September 23, 2018, 11:23:46 AM
To the OP, I would suggest getting additional bids from recommended landscapers if you are not happy with the three you receive.  Others can give you amounts they paid but you may not be able to replicate the same landscaping at the same cost for two reasons...1)material prices have gone up; some significantly, and 2) a lot of good contractors are busy and are pricing accordingly.  I know for a fact that the same contractor will price much higher today than they did in 2014 when work was not as plentiful.

As for plant materials, most good landscape contractors will purchase the plants as they get a trade discount and that is additional profit for them.  If the contractor provides plant materials they should warranty the plants for 6-12 months.

Don't fall victim to the shoddy workmanship of cheap contractors just because the bid is the lowest.  it will cost you much more in money and aggrevation down the road to fix problems that arise.  Also make sure that the estimates contain a detailed breakdown for you to make a fair comparison between bids.  There are many contractors today who are taking on more work than they can handle, so make sure there is a clause in the contract stating how long the project will take for completion.

If you have a plan you like, it's easier to compare apples to apples.

Find some houses that have used the contractors and ask them if they would use them again, how they were with completing the project timewise.

Our plants were purchased from http://dmcolorexpress.net/purchase/ a contractor's only nursery and the only way to buy is if you are a contractor or he is actually with you. We paid by credit card directly to the nursery. I wish I could get more potting soil and mulch from them but alas no contractor.

If our contractor got some kickback, I don't know about it but the prices were excellent so we were very very happy with the plants..... from bedding plants to box trees. Excellent selection and the nursery has a person who went with us, the contractor (or helped us with suggestions, size the plants get, which varieties get bigger, sun needs etc) and tags the actual larger plants that we pick out. Took us hours to pick everything out and we had a list ahead of time, partly because the place is absolutely huge and it was alot of walking.

If you can talk your contractor into going with you, make sure you allow a LOT of time, have a list of what you want, quantities and go to the San Juan Capistrano location. The Orange location is VERY small overflow.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: WTTCHMN on September 23, 2018, 12:08:15 PM
To the OP, I would suggest getting additional bids from recommended landscapers if you are not happy with the three you receive.  Others can give you amounts they paid but you may not be able to replicate the same landscaping at the same cost for two reasons...1)material prices have gone up; some significantly, and 2) a lot of good contractors are busy and are pricing accordingly.  I know for a fact that the same contractor will price much higher today than they did in 2014 when work was not as plentiful.

As for plant materials, most good landscape contractors will purchase the plants as they get a trade discount and that is additional profit for them.  If the contractor provides plant materials they should warranty the plants for 6-12 months.

Don't fall victim to the shoddy workmanship of cheap contractors just because the bid is the lowest.  it will cost you much more in money and aggrevation down the road to fix problems that arise.  Also make sure that the estimates contain a detailed breakdown for you to make a fair comparison between bids.  There are many contractors today who are taking on more work than they can handle, so make sure there is a clause in the contract stating how long the project will take for completion.

If you have a plan you like, it's easier to compare apples to apples.

Find some houses that have used the contractors and ask them if they would use them again, how they were with completing the project timewise.

Our plants were purchased from http://dmcolorexpress.net/purchase/ a contractor's only nursery and the only way to buy is if you are a contractor or he is actually with you. We paid by credit card directly to the nursery. I wish I could get more potting soil and mulch from them but alas no contractor.

If our contractor got some kickback, I don't know about it but the prices were excellent so we were very very happy with the plants..... from bedding plants to box trees. Excellent selection and the nursery has a person who went with us, the contractor (or helped us with suggestions, size the plants get, which varieties get bigger, sun needs etc) and tags the actual larger plants that we pick out. Took us hours to pick everything out and we had a list ahead of time, partly because the place is absolutely huge and it was alot of walking.

If you can talk your contractor into going with you, make sure you allow a LOT of time, have a list of what you want, quantities and go to the San Juan Capistrano location. The Orange location is VERY small overflow.

You can buy without a contractor at the Orange location.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Ready2Downsize on September 23, 2018, 05:40:13 PM
To the OP, I would suggest getting additional bids from recommended landscapers if you are not happy with the three you receive.  Others can give you amounts they paid but you may not be able to replicate the same landscaping at the same cost for two reasons...1)material prices have gone up; some significantly, and 2) a lot of good contractors are busy and are pricing accordingly.  I know for a fact that the same contractor will price much higher today than they did in 2014 when work was not as plentiful.

As for plant materials, most good landscape contractors will purchase the plants as they get a trade discount and that is additional profit for them.  If the contractor provides plant materials they should warranty the plants for 6-12 months.

Don't fall victim to the shoddy workmanship of cheap contractors just because the bid is the lowest.  it will cost you much more in money and aggrevation down the road to fix problems that arise.  Also make sure that the estimates contain a detailed breakdown for you to make a fair comparison between bids.  There are many contractors today who are taking on more work than they can handle, so make sure there is a clause in the contract stating how long the project will take for completion.

If you have a plan you like, it's easier to compare apples to apples.

Find some houses that have used the contractors and ask them if they would use them again, how they were with completing the project timewise.

Our plants were purchased from http://dmcolorexpress.net/purchase/ a contractor's only nursery and the only way to buy is if you are a contractor or he is actually with you. We paid by credit card directly to the nursery. I wish I could get more potting soil and mulch from them but alas no contractor.

If our contractor got some kickback, I don't know about it but the prices were excellent so we were very very happy with the plants..... from bedding plants to box trees. Excellent selection and the nursery has a person who went with us, the contractor (or helped us with suggestions, size the plants get, which varieties get bigger, sun needs etc) and tags the actual larger plants that we pick out. Took us hours to pick everything out and we had a list ahead of time, partly because the place is absolutely huge and it was alot of walking.

If you can talk your contractor into going with you, make sure you allow a LOT of time, have a list of what you want, quantities and go to the San Juan Capistrano location. The Orange location is VERY small overflow.

You can buy without a contractor at the Orange location.

Maybe but when I went there to see about their plants they wanted a business card as a contractor before they would "let me" look at their plants. No matter, the orange location is tiny and not worth bothering with if you're putting in new landscaping and in need of lots of plants.


I think I'll stop by and ask if I can buy mulch at their contractor price next time I go by the Orange location.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: qwerty on September 23, 2018, 05:46:43 PM
In 2012 we bought our plants from DM color express in orange without a contractor. If the orange location is small their other location must be huge.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: WTTCHMN on September 23, 2018, 08:15:42 PM
In 2012 we bought our plants from DM color express in orange without a contractor. If the orange location is small their other location must be huge.

SJC is massive.  They don’t like you looking around on your own, but you can do it on the sly.

At Orange, they don’t care and will even answer questions.  Orange is more walkable just to get the basic idea.  The best thing about DM is that they publish a list of what’s available every week so you can see what’s in stock rather than driving around aimlessly for specific varietal of plant.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Ready2Downsize on September 23, 2018, 08:33:18 PM
In 2012 we bought our plants from DM color express in orange without a contractor. If the orange location is small their other location must be huge.

SJC is massive.  They don’t like you looking around on your own, but you can do it on the sly.

At Orange, they don’t care and will even answer questions.  Orange is more walkable just to get the basic idea.  The best thing about DM is that they publish a list of what’s available every week so you can see what’s in stock rather than driving around aimlessly for specific varietal of plant.


Both will drive you around in a golf cart but for Orange I don't know why anyone would bother. SJC doesn't look that big till u r inside the lot.

If I ever buy a place again, I'm going to make it a condition of the landscaping deal, that I want to get my plants there and if the contractor or one of his employees has to go with me they will.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: eyephone on September 23, 2018, 09:45:58 PM
I guess I’m simple. I got my plants at Home Depot and Lowe’s. I planted them my self.

Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Ready2Downsize on September 23, 2018, 10:35:13 PM
I guess I’m simple. I got my plants at Home Depot and Lowe’s. I planted them my self.


You weren't required to have at least one large tree (at least 24 inch box)? I guess your yard must be too small.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: eyephone on September 23, 2018, 10:47:42 PM
I believe I have a midsize tree.

my plants are low maintenance
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Bullsback on September 24, 2018, 12:45:57 PM
Makes me appreciate the builders and the landscapes plannings for the community after each time I talk to a contractor.
I'm legitimately surprised builders don't offer up the ability for people to do landscaping. Say, have a few basic design ideas out there and allow the builder to do it. I'd legitimately consider it as that is probably the part about a new home that I would least like to deal with (so much downside risk to me).  Obviously builders could get a mark-up as the work is really not that complex....so much mark-up in landscaping that i shocks me builders don't do it (maybe because it adds too much time to the "closing"). 
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Compressed-Village on September 24, 2018, 12:59:21 PM
Makes me appreciate the builders and the landscapes plannings for the community after each time I talk to a contractor.
I'm legitimately surprised builders don't offer up the ability for people to do landscaping. Say, have a few basic design ideas out there and allow the builder to do it. I'd legitimately consider it as that is probably the part about a new home that I would least like to deal with (so much downside risk to me).  Obviously builders could get a mark-up as the work is really not that complex....so much mark-up in landscaping that i shocks me builders don't do it (maybe because it adds too much time to the "closing").

Interesting ideas and can be lucrative to the builders bottom line. The issues may lies with new homeowner change their design ideas, change material selections and drag out the completion date. Honestly, we changed our design at least 7 times and we drove our contractor nut. If closing can done independently of landscapes then I think when times are lean builder will pursue it. They might include basic landscapes or they will go into this to get buyers to buy with less headache and more assurance. And add to their profit.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: bones on September 24, 2018, 02:10:29 PM
Makes me appreciate the builders and the landscapes plannings for the community after each time I talk to a contractor.
I'm legitimately surprised builders don't offer up the ability for people to do landscaping. Say, have a few basic design ideas out there and allow the builder to do it. I'd legitimately consider it as that is probably the part about a new home that I would least like to deal with (so much downside risk to me).  Obviously builders could get a mark-up as the work is really not that complex....so much mark-up in landscaping that i shocks me builders don't do it (maybe because it adds too much time to the "closing"). 

Brookfield offered this in an attached tract in PS. It was one simple design - nothing fancy. Paved the patio space and planted. A handful of people opted for it. I think it works for homes with a small patio space that is pretty congruous from house to house. Harder to do when there’s different lot sizes involved.

Also IIRC, it was $10-15k for a small space and you can def get a better “look” on your own after close for the same price.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: HCM on September 24, 2018, 04:55:17 PM
$60k for what you described seems high.  I think $50k including materials is what sounds right based on my experience.  It's also odd that the contractor doesn't include materials - does he except you to go purchase and get them to the house yourself?  I would keep looking...
Paris will disagree *(where is she bye the way/)  If OP bought a 4,000 sq ft house in Irvine, the price is greater than 1.5 million, now don't skimp on landscape, it has be atleast $100K to be neighborhood worthy.


From memory, landscaping for Capella houses with tiny lots were more than $40k

We spent $25k for landscaping including all materials and I'm very happy with the quality of work.

@ Paris:  mind if I ask who you used as your landscaper?  We received bid no. 2 and it's more in line with what we thought.  However, kind of bugs me that I was promised the estimate by this past Tuesday & I had to text the guy for the estimate on Saturday when I had not heard anything.  Already the delays begin, I guess.  I suppose I should be used to this by now considering we endured a months-long delay on getting our house complete, too.   
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: irvinehomeowner on September 24, 2018, 08:09:32 PM
Does anyone remember years ago when homes used to include basic front and back landscaping?
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Compressed-Village on September 24, 2018, 08:13:44 PM
Does anyone remember years ago when homes used to include basic front and back landscaping?

Anyone even remember Centex builder? My first new construction was by Centex basic front yard with sprinkler and grass. Backyard bare bone dirt.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Paris on September 24, 2018, 09:34:57 PM
$60k for what you described seems high.  I think $50k including materials is what sounds right based on my experience.  It's also odd that the contractor doesn't include materials - does he except you to go purchase and get them to the house yourself?  I would keep looking...
Paris will disagree *(where is she bye the way/)  If OP bought a 4,000 sq ft house in Irvine, the price is greater than 1.5 million, now don't skimp on landscape, it has be atleast $100K to be neighborhood worthy.


From memory, landscaping for Capella houses with tiny lots were more than $40k

We spent $25k for landscaping including all materials and I'm very happy with the quality of work.

@ Paris:  mind if I ask who you used as your landscaper?  We received bid no. 2 and it's more in line with what we thought.  However, kind of bugs me that I was promised the estimate by this past Tuesday & I had to text the guy for the estimate on Saturday when I had not heard anything.  Already the delays begin, I guess.  I suppose I should be used to this by now considering we endured a months-long delay on getting our house complete, too.

We used Savannah Scapes. Sean was always busy but reliable and true to his word. at least that was our experience when we used him 2 years ago. Good luck on your project!
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: eyephone on September 24, 2018, 09:43:37 PM
$60k for what you described seems high.  I think $50k including materials is what sounds right based on my experience.  It's also odd that the contractor doesn't include materials - does he except you to go purchase and get them to the house yourself?  I would keep looking...
Paris will disagree *(where is she bye the way/)  If OP bought a 4,000 sq ft house in Irvine, the price is greater than 1.5 million, now don't skimp on landscape, it has be atleast $100K to be neighborhood worthy.


From memory, landscaping for Capella houses with tiny lots were more than $40k

We spent $25k for landscaping including all materials and I'm very happy with the quality of work.

@ Paris:  mind if I ask who you used as your landscaper?  We received bid no. 2 and it's more in line with what we thought.  However, kind of bugs me that I was promised the estimate by this past Tuesday & I had to text the guy for the estimate on Saturday when I had not heard anything.  Already the delays begin, I guess.  I suppose I should be used to this by now considering we endured a months-long delay on getting our house complete, too.

We used Savannah Scapes. Sean was always busy but reliable and true to his word. at least that was our experience when we used him 2 years ago. Good luck on your project!

Did you read the recent review on TI?
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Paris on September 24, 2018, 09:44:41 PM
$60k for what you described seems high.  I think $50k including materials is what sounds right based on my experience.  It's also odd that the contractor doesn't include materials - does he except you to go purchase and get them to the house yourself?  I would keep looking...
Paris will disagree *(where is she bye the way/)  If OP bought a 4,000 sq ft house in Irvine, the price is greater than 1.5 million, now don't skimp on landscape, it has be atleast $100K to be neighborhood worthy.


From memory, landscaping for Capella houses with tiny lots were more than $40k

We spent $25k for landscaping including all materials and I'm very happy with the quality of work.

@ Paris:  mind if I ask who you used as your landscaper?  We received bid no. 2 and it's more in line with what we thought.  However, kind of bugs me that I was promised the estimate by this past Tuesday & I had to text the guy for the estimate on Saturday when I had not heard anything.  Already the delays begin, I guess.  I suppose I should be used to this by now considering we endured a months-long delay on getting our house complete, too.

We used Savannah Scapes. Sean was always busy but reliable and true to his word. at least that was our experience when we used him 2 years ago. Good luck on your project!

Did you read the recent review on TI?

No. I haven't been on TI recently so didn't see it.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: HCM on September 25, 2018, 12:48:49 PM
$60k for what you described seems high.  I think $50k including materials is what sounds right based on my experience.  It's also odd that the contractor doesn't include materials - does he except you to go purchase and get them to the house yourself?  I would keep looking...
Paris will disagree *(where is she bye the way/)  If OP bought a 4,000 sq ft house in Irvine, the price is greater than 1.5 million, now don't skimp on landscape, it has be atleast $100K to be neighborhood worthy.


From memory, landscaping for Capella houses with tiny lots were more than $40k

We spent $25k for landscaping including all materials and I'm very happy with the quality of work.

@ Paris:  mind if I ask who you used as your landscaper?  We received bid no. 2 and it's more in line with what we thought.  However, kind of bugs me that I was promised the estimate by this past Tuesday & I had to text the guy for the estimate on Saturday when I had not heard anything.  Already the delays begin, I guess.  I suppose I should be used to this by now considering we endured a months-long delay on getting our house complete, too.

We used Savannah Scapes. Sean was always busy but reliable and true to his word. at least that was our experience when we used him 2 years ago. Good luck on your project!

Did you read the recent review on TI?

Recent review of Savannah Scapes?  Actually, in the interest of full disclosure, the $60k estimate I received was from Sean at Savannah.  I had hoped the estimate would come out much better because of all the great reviews noted here.  But I was told that $60k + owner providing tiles + plants separately was the best estimate they could provide. 
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: marmott on September 25, 2018, 12:52:10 PM
They probably have too much work on their hands already and are not very motivated to get new jobs.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: irvinehomeowner on September 25, 2018, 12:58:33 PM
Does anyone remember years ago when homes used to include basic front and back landscaping?

Anyone even remember Centex builder? My first new construction was by Centex basic front yard with sprinkler and grass. Backyard bare bone dirt.

I think Centex was one of the builders in West Irvine and from what I remember, basic front landscaping was included and you can pay for backyard landscaping.

I'm trying to remember, but I think William Lyon homes used to do front and back many moons ago.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Inner City Skyline on September 25, 2018, 02:45:51 PM
We normally price our projects based off our initial free estimate.

In the Mind of Our Estimators
Our estimators go over measurements, area of landscaping, materials, and labor that is involved.

On average, $5,550 - $12,500 for good size front yard in Irvine, CA .
Drought Tolerant Landscape Design is the most popular choice.
Some of the other services we offer
Decomposed granite
Artificial Grass
Lawn Removal
Concrete Services
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: Compressed-Village on September 25, 2018, 04:54:25 PM
Does anyone remember years ago when homes used to include basic front and back landscaping?

Anyone even remember Centex builder? My first new construction was by Centex basic front yard with sprinkler and grass. Backyard bare bone dirt.

I think Centex was one of the builders in West Irvine and from what I remember, basic front landscaping was included and you can pay for backyard landscaping.

I'm trying to remember, but I think William Lyon homes used to do front and back many moons ago.

That's pretty good IHO, they build in Northpark as well. This was after West Irvine. Those days a half million dollars house get you a real nice pad. Man, our dollars what happen to it?
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: NYT on November 09, 2018, 01:35:12 PM
I have been interviewing landscapers about my front and back yard (5,000 sq. ft lot with a 4,000+ sq. ft house on it, so basically not much yard though likely a tad bigger than typical Irvine new builds).  Received a quote for $60k to plant some planters, install tile over concrete, and build a water wall -- but that estimate does not include ANY materials, i.e., I would need to separately purchase the tiles, plants, trees, etc. 

I've never dealt with a new build before so I don't have much context but this sounds extremely expensive considering this is 60k for basically just some yard labor?  What have others been paying for landscaping and typically do homeowners have to provide the materials separately?

General rough guide is that you should spend about 10% of the price of your home on landscaping. If you're not spending that much, you're not doing your home justice. I live in a (new at the time) community where the minimum cost of a new home was $1,000,000. One of the homes looks like they went to Home Depot and spent $5,000 on landscaping, and it shows. I can go through and tell you exactly which homes spent the necessary amount and which didn't because it shows.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: brianlin87 on May 13, 2019, 09:25:08 AM
I have been interviewing landscapers about my front and back yard (5,000 sq. ft lot with a 4,000+ sq. ft house on it, so basically not much yard though likely a tad bigger than typical Irvine new builds).  Received a quote for $60k to plant some planters, install tile over concrete, and build a water wall -- but that estimate does not include ANY materials, i.e., I would need to separately purchase the tiles, plants, trees, etc. 

I've never dealt with a new build before so I don't have much context but this sounds extremely expensive considering this is 60k for basically just some yard labor?  What have others been paying for landscaping and typically do homeowners have to provide the materials separately?

General rough guide is that you should spend about 10% of the price of your home on landscaping. If you're not spending that much, you're not doing your home justice. I live in a (new at the time) community where the minimum cost of a new home was $1,000,000. One of the homes looks like they went to Home Depot and spent $5,000 on landscaping, and it shows. I can go through and tell you exactly which homes spent the necessary amount and which didn't because it shows.

Hard to believe this "rule of thumb" considering the size of lots that are being subdivided in Irvine lately.  I'd say the rule of thumb is closer to 5% (for the bare minimum) and close to/over 10% if you're including a pool.
Title: Re: Landscaping cost
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on May 22, 2019, 04:03:32 PM
Curious, are landscaping costs coming down a bit now that the higher end new home market has cooled?  I'm thinking of redoing my front and rear yards but I'm not in any hurry.