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General => Food and Dining => Topic started by: someguy on November 02, 2016, 07:38:20 PM

Title: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: someguy on November 02, 2016, 07:38:20 PM
Ouch. 

I hope a great artisan pizza place like Angelina's Pizzeria Napoletana place fills this now vacant commercial space.  I think the market for cracker crust pizza (think pieology, blaze) is over saturated.  Kind of a bummer to see another business depart from the Orchard Hills center :(
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: aquabliss on November 02, 2016, 09:07:00 PM
This explains why they cleared out the place and put up a sign saying "remodeling in progress".  They defaulted on their rent and just cut and run.
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: ps9 on November 02, 2016, 09:24:41 PM
This shopping center is toxic, even a pizza place can't survive.  Who's next:  gourmet burgers?  Another food poisoning poke joint?  I wouldn't mind a flame broiler or Waba Grill. 
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: Dresden215 on November 02, 2016, 10:07:28 PM
Stacks Pancake House should have opened here instead of the nightmare parking lot at Walnut Village Center.
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: Villager on November 03, 2016, 12:33:33 AM
This shopping center is toxic, even a pizza place can't survive.  Who's next:  gourmet burgers?  Another food poisoning poke joint?  I wouldn't mind a flame broiler or Waba Grill.

Other factors played into this that we don't know about. The other Ugly Pie location in El Segundo also closed, so this was likely a matter of deeper financial issues, not shopping center toxicity. The rest of the tenants in the shopping center seem to be doing just fine. Come to think of it, the only other tenant that left the shopping center in recent history was Haggen, and that closure was also caused by broader financial issues.
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: WTTCHMN on November 03, 2016, 08:24:05 AM
This shopping center is toxic, even a pizza place can't survive.  Who's next:  gourmet burgers?  Another food poisoning poke joint?  I wouldn't mind a flame broiler or Waba Grill.

Other factors played into this that we don't know about. The other Ugly Pie location in El Segundo also closed, so this was likely a matter of deeper financial issues, not shopping center toxicity. The rest of the tenants in the shopping center seem to be doing just fine. Come to think of it, the only other tenant that left the shopping center in recent history was Haggen, and that closure was also caused by broader financial issues.

Golden Spoon, Pavilions before Haggen, before Jiinbei it was Shin Steak, and before that it was Ayame Sushi.  I think there was another pizza place that had also closed before Ugly Pie.  And still, no one has taken over the anchor space which has remained vacant for over a year despite tons of homes being built.

Still don't think it's toxic??
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: Tbharvey on November 03, 2016, 08:34:32 AM
Johnnie's was there and very good, but they "moved" to Quail Hill. Center should have more stuff. I'm surprised Chico's survives.
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: zubs on November 03, 2016, 09:02:19 AM
Leport is doing fine....They can make that whole shopping center into one big Montessori.  yay.
I went to the Pizza place before ugly pizza back in 2012...it was alright.
That plaza has bad juju....prob need a feng shui expert to fix it.
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: irvineshadow on November 03, 2016, 09:23:27 AM
Orchard Hills people must be low key shoppers, or that plaza is too close to other plazas ( I don't think this is true). 

Zovs and La Sirena, MC D's,  etc do fine. 

Anyway, that pizza wasn't that good for the price.  It was supposed to be some quick made to order pizza situation, but all you did was go to the counter and order the pizza that you want and wait for it, pretty traditional.
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: Happiness on November 03, 2016, 09:50:49 AM
The problem with many Asian entrepreneurs is lack of creativity and innovation.  This is often what happens when your formative years are focused solely on standardized tests and getting into name brand schools and collecting credentials. The PRC is an entire nation of imitators.  How many times have you heard this story: Asian person goes into a business (i.e. Pieology), looks around and says "this place is a gold mine!" They copy it thinking the $$$ will start pouring in.  However, there is a lot to creating and running a successful business than the superficial aspects that can be easily copied. Ugly Pie failed because it was an imitation that was not markedly better than the real thing.
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: WTTCHMN on November 03, 2016, 09:59:54 AM
The problem with many Asian entrepreneurs is lack of creativity and innovation.  This is often what happens when your formative years are focused solely on standardized tests and getting into name brand schools and collecting credentials. The PRC is an entire nation of imitators.  How many times have you heard this story: Asian person goes into a business (i.e. Pieology), looks around and says "this place is a gold mine!" They copy it thinking the $$$ will start pouring in.  However, there is a lot to creating and running a successful business than the superficial aspects that can be easily copied. Ugly Pie failed because it was an imitation that was not markedly better than the real thing.

Except Ugly Pie copied Pielogy which is actually Asian-owned (Michael Chang, the tennis player).
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: Happiness on November 03, 2016, 10:01:54 AM
The problem with many Asian entrepreneurs is lack of creativity and innovation.  This is often what happens when your formative years are focused solely on standardized tests and getting into name brand schools and collecting credentials. The PRC is an entire nation of imitators.  How many times have you heard this story: Asian person goes into a business (i.e. Pieology), looks around and says "this place is a gold mine!" They copy it thinking the $$$ will start pouring in.  However, there is a lot to creating and running a successful business than the superficial aspects that can be easily copied. Ugly Pie failed because it was an imitation that was not markedly better than the real thing.

Except Ugly Pie copied Pielogy which is actually Asian-owned (Michael Chang, the tennis player).
I said many, not all, Asians are uncreative.  Michael Chang is Taiwanese, not PRC Chinese, otherwise, he'd be Michael Zhang.
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: Goriot on November 03, 2016, 10:02:44 AM
One of my favorite place at OH plaza is Jin Bei.  I go there almost once a week.  They do very well and it's always packed during dinner even on the weekdays.
One of the better sushi places in this area.  Also, La Sirena Grill does very well with good business.  Asian Bistro food is subpar and not sure how they stay in business as I barely see any customers.

Need more food choices and a supermarket.
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: WTTCHMN on November 03, 2016, 10:26:00 AM
The problem with many Asian entrepreneurs is lack of creativity and innovation.  This is often what happens when your formative years are focused solely on standardized tests and getting into name brand schools and collecting credentials. The PRC is an entire nation of imitators.  How many times have you heard this story: Asian person goes into a business (i.e. Pieology), looks around and says "this place is a gold mine!" They copy it thinking the $$$ will start pouring in.  However, there is a lot to creating and running a successful business than the superficial aspects that can be easily copied. Ugly Pie failed because it was an imitation that was not markedly better than the real thing.

Except Ugly Pie copied Pielogy which is actually Asian-owned (Michael Chang, the tennis player).
I said many, not all, Asians are uncreative.  Michael Chang is Taiwanese, not PRC Chinese, otherwise, he'd be Michael Zhang.

Gee, you hate the PRC as much as your doppelganger IHS.

Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: aquabliss on November 03, 2016, 11:22:37 AM
The problem with many Asian entrepreneurs is lack of creativity and innovation.  This is often what happens when your formative years are focused solely on standardized tests and getting into name brand schools and collecting credentials. The PRC is an entire nation of imitators.  How many times have you heard this story: Asian person goes into a business (i.e. Pieology), looks around and says "this place is a gold mine!" They copy it thinking the $$$ will start pouring in.  However, there is a lot to creating and running a successful business than the superficial aspects that can be easily copied. Ugly Pie failed because it was an imitation that was not markedly better than the real thing.

Except Ugly Pie copied Pielogy which is actually Asian-owned (Michael Chang, the tennis player).

It's owned by his brother Carl.  I'm pretty sure Michael is an investor though.
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: shadyoc on December 16, 2016, 11:49:38 PM
I never liked Ugly Pie.  I always thought Mod Pizza was tastier.
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: Goriot on June 01, 2019, 09:36:47 PM
Finally a new tenant where Ugly pie Pizza was in Orchard Hills Shopping, but but but.... Pizza Hut chain store really after all these years???? I thought Irvine Company was not into Chains?  Haven't tried Pizza Hut in 10+ years, but I will give it a Shot.
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: aquabliss on June 22, 2019, 05:05:33 AM
Finally a new tenant where Ugly pie Pizza was in Orchard Hills Shopping, but but but.... Pizza Hut chain store really after all these years???? I thought Irvine Company was not into Chains?  Haven't tried Pizza Hut in 10+ years, but I will give it a Shot.

Wow really, Pizza Hut?  TIC must have been desperate.  The Hut Favorite and Parmesan crust are actually not bad, but it’s still Pizza Hut.
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: iacrenter on June 27, 2019, 01:10:29 AM
They will have a steady stream of customers from OH school.

Finally a new tenant where Ugly pie Pizza was in Orchard Hills Shopping, but but but.... Pizza Hut chain store really after all these years???? I thought Irvine Company was not into Chains?  Haven't tried Pizza Hut in 10+ years, but I will give it a Shot.

Wow really, Pizza Hut?  TIC must have been desperate.  The Hut Favorite and Parmesan crust are actually not bad, but it’s still Pizza Hut.
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: Goriot on June 27, 2019, 10:40:47 AM
One thing good about this Pizza Hut is that it's a Sports Bar.  Atleast little different. 
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: irvinehomeowner on June 27, 2019, 10:58:14 AM
One thing good about this Pizza Hut is that it's a Sports Bar.  Atleast little different. 

Wha? Need to check this out.

The old Pizza Hut in Crossroads before it became a carry-out/delivery only place was a proper restaurant with big screen TVs, arcade and a weekday lunch buffet... now location is Urban Plates... :(
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: aquabliss on June 27, 2019, 11:37:36 AM
Wow, Pizza Hut with a sports bar... this looks pretty legit:
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/96df31031bf8d6ca75fafe5500685930f36b4abb/c=0-48-710-447/local/-/media/2015/07/02/SiouxFalls/B9317932497Z.1_20150702135043_000_GB7B818QR.1-0.png?width=3200&height=1680&fit=crop
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: irvinehomeowner on June 27, 2019, 12:21:06 PM
Hmm... that heat lamp area looks like it could be a buffet set up. :)
Title: Re: Ugly Pie Pizza
Post by: aquabliss on September 18, 2020, 05:43:34 PM
Finally a new tenant where Ugly pie Pizza was in Orchard Hills Shopping, but but but.... Pizza Hut chain store really after all these years???? I thought Irvine Company was not into Chains?  Haven't tried Pizza Hut in 10+ years, but I will give it a Shot.

Been 15 months since that Pizza Hut signe went up and still not open.  I guess they’re waiting Post COVID but I heard Pizza Hut is doing well during COVID.  Just open already.
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