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Title: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: eyephone on October 13, 2015, 02:35:17 PM
So what happened? Looks like Sark got fired. Is Pat Haden's job safe?


http://www.latimes.com/sports/usc/uscnow/la-sp-usc-haden-sarkisian-fired-20151013-story.html
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: qwerty on October 13, 2015, 04:11:22 PM
This shit is amazing. They should have just kept Ed Orgeron, the players would run through a wall for him and he was a great recruiter. They said Orgeron wasn't polished enough for the big bright lights of LA and the rich alumni/boosters. I think the boosters will take winning over anything else.

I'm ready to withhold my donation check until they fire Hayden :-)
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: eyephone on October 13, 2015, 04:25:39 PM
I think after the Solute to Troy incident, they should of taken action then. 
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: bones on October 13, 2015, 04:34:12 PM
What I don't get it why USC keeps dipping back into the Pete Carroll era for coaches. You're USC. With location, money, history, and recruiting on your side. You should be able to get anyone to come coach.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: WTTCHMN on October 13, 2015, 04:48:11 PM
What I don't get it why USC keeps dipping back into the Pete Carroll era for coaches. You're USC. With location, money, history, and recruiting on your side. You should be able to get anyone to come coach.

But therein lies the problem.  Any coach walks into that job with impossibly high expectations from the press and alumni that's surely a setup for failure.  A great coach with a proven track record would have to put all of that on the line to take the job... why risk it?  Only washed-up coaches with recycled careers are willing to take that risk.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: qwerty on October 13, 2015, 05:26:18 PM
I would offer urban Meyer 15m per year to get him to come here. Not my money :-)
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: bones on October 13, 2015, 05:32:40 PM
What I don't get it why USC keeps dipping back into the Pete Carroll era for coaches. You're USC. With location, money, history, and recruiting on your side. You should be able to get anyone to come coach.

But therein lies the problem.  Any coach walks into that job with impossibly high expectations from the press and alumni that's surely a setup for failure.  A great coach with a proven track record would have to put all of that on the line to take the job... why risk it?  Only washed-up coaches with recycled careers are willing to take that risk.

I don't buy this argument. This is a big time job. With a big time salary. And probably a dream job for some. The last couple choices have been completely uninspired.  That's on the AD. Rhodes scholar or not, he should probably go.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: irvinehusky on October 13, 2015, 05:46:26 PM
I'm really sad to see our former head coach end up in this situation.  He has a major drinking problem which he also had while up there.  I would think the additional, unrealistic expectations and pressures of his present job, divorce just was too much for someone with that addiction.  Hope he turns his life around. 
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: eyephone on October 13, 2015, 06:05:43 PM
30 for 30: Trojan War (ESPN)

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13879171/trojan-war-covers-rise-fall-pete-carroll-usc-dynasty

Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: bones on October 19, 2015, 11:20:42 AM
So if you strike out 3 times with the disciples, it's time to bring back the original right?

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/pete-carroll-short-list-coaching-143832736.html
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: eyephone on October 30, 2015, 11:58:19 AM
Haden steps down from the College Football Playoff Committee. Haden still remains the AD @ USC


http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/10/30/9645730/pat-haden-playoff-committee-southern-cal-athletic-director
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: eyephone on November 30, 2015, 04:32:07 PM
USC just hired Clay Helton. One good game, and they gave him an offer - say what.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: Irvinecommuter on November 30, 2015, 04:39:31 PM
USC just hired Clay Helton. One good game, and they gave him an offer - say what.

Not a USC fan but Helton is 5-2 as the head coach with a close loss to ND and a loss at Oregon.  Pretty good IMO...of course USC is going to get destroyed by Stanford.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: morekaos on November 30, 2015, 06:08:05 PM
SC hires Helton.  Translation-we sent out our feelers to the big time coaches and they were not interested. The players seem to like him and that is huge. He better win his next two games or the bickering starts anew.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: eyephone on December 05, 2015, 08:45:39 PM
USC just hired Clay Helton. One good game, and they gave him an offer - say what.

Not a USC fan but Helton is 5-2 as the head coach with a close loss to ND and a loss at Oregon.  Pretty good IMO...of course USC is going to get destroyed by Stanford.

Maybe SC should of wait to the end of the season to hire Helton. Christian McCaffrey had 461 all-purpose yards.


Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: qwerty on December 05, 2015, 10:14:37 PM
I hope USC loses the bowl game and then Alabama is going to kick our ass so hopefully helton goes 0-3 in his first three games. Top 5-10 recruiting classes year after year and  same old shitty result
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: eyephone on December 08, 2015, 02:30:20 PM
The Sark Strikes Back at SC!
Steve Sarkisian sues USC for wrongful termination.

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/steve-sarkisian-sues-usc-contract-breach-firing-35629791



Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: eyephone on December 09, 2015, 07:31:58 AM
I heard Sark has a good chance of winning the case against USC.



Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: Homer_Simpson on December 09, 2015, 07:40:52 AM
I know I'm late to post this but, woohoo #FARM!
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: Perspective on December 09, 2015, 09:12:34 AM
This case will be settled long before any more SC dirty laundry is made public.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: eyephone on December 30, 2015, 07:52:03 PM
Who's going to win tonight Qwerty?
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: eyephone on December 30, 2015, 11:38:06 PM
I hope USC loses the bowl game

Looks like you predicted correctly.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: qwerty on December 31, 2015, 12:08:50 AM
Who's going to win tonight Qwerty?

i just finished watching the game. i was going to put $100 on USC -3 but was doing some stuff in the yard outside and forgot to place my bet, good thing i didnt place the bet.  Clayton is 0-2 since being named the head coach, a loss to stanford is understandable, a loss to wisconsin? Sarkisian could have done that. Next up is Alabama to start of the 2016 season in Dallas. 0-3 here in Helton's first three games here we come!
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: eyephone on February 05, 2016, 12:17:08 PM
Who's going to win tonight Qwerty?

i just finished watching the game. i was going to put $100 on USC -3 but was doing some stuff in the yard outside and forgot to place my bet, good thing i didnt place the bet.  Clayton is 0-2 since being named the head coach, a loss to stanford is understandable, a loss to wisconsin? Sarkisian could have done that. Next up is Alabama to start of the 2016 season in Dallas. 0-3 here in Helton's first three games here we come!

Just announced - Pat Haden to step down.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: eyephone on April 14, 2016, 03:31:42 PM
Lynn Swann named the new athletic director of USC.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: eyephone on September 01, 2016, 06:47:07 PM
So who's going to win this weekend Alabama or USC?
(Alabama ranked 1, USC ranked 20)
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: Perspective on September 01, 2016, 07:07:41 PM
I have SC covering the ~11 point spread (Alabama -11). Max Browne is a redshirt junior. He's been in the program forever and was the top recruit a few years ago. Who knows what the Tide will have behind center. And it's in Dallas - a neutral field.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: eyephone on September 01, 2016, 07:35:41 PM
I have SC covering the ~11 point spread (Alabama -11). Max Browne is a redshirt junior. He's been in the program forever and was the top recruit a few years ago. Who knows what the Tide will have behind center. And it's in Dallas - a neutral field.

How much are your betting?

I think Lane is going to stomp all over SC. Alabama recruiting class, coaches, team, program > USC

Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: qwerty on September 01, 2016, 08:14:36 PM
SC is going to shock the world! I'll be there supporting my Trojans. As long as it's a good game I'll be happy.  Would suck to travel there to see a blowout. But at least I'll get to check out Jerrys world.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: Paris on September 02, 2016, 02:10:27 AM
SC is going to shock the world! I'll be there supporting my Trojans. As long as it's a good game I'll be happy.  Would suck to travel there to see a blowout. But at least I'll get to check out Jerrys world.

My SC hubs was trying to convince me that it's a good idea to drop a couple grand to go to this game. Glad my Bruin senses talked him out of it  ;D My bet's on Alabama...
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: qwerty on September 02, 2016, 07:04:30 AM
SC is going to shock the world! I'll be there supporting my Trojans. As long as it's a good game I'll be happy.  Would suck to travel there to see a blowout. But at least I'll get to check out Jerrys world.

My SC hubs was trying to convince me that it's a good idea to drop a couple grand to go to this game. Glad my Bruin senses talked him out of it  ;D My bet's on Alabama...

Your husbands problem was marrying a bruin :-)
I married another Trojan :-)
And unfortunately Alabama probably will win :-(
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: lnc on September 02, 2016, 07:13:34 AM
SC is going to shock the world! I'll be there supporting my Trojans. As long as it's a good game I'll be happy.  Would suck to travel there to see a blowout. But at least I'll get to check out Jerrys world.

My SC hubs was trying to convince me that it's a good idea to drop a couple grand to go to this game. Glad my Bruin senses talked him out of it  ;D My bet's on Alabama...

Your husbands problem was marrying a bruin :-)
I married another Trojan :-)
And unfortunately Alabama probably will win :-(

Ha ha, good one.

But her husband did merry smart though, he got to live in OH instead. :)
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: Perspective on September 02, 2016, 09:13:13 AM
I have SC covering the ~11 point spread (Alabama -11). Max Browne is a redshirt junior. He's been in the program forever and was the top recruit a few years ago. Who knows what the Tide will have behind center. And it's in Dallas - a neutral field.

How much are your betting?

I think Lane is going to stomp all over SC. Alabama recruiting class, coaches, team, program > USC

Nominal amounts. A few friends and I compete against each other picking a few games each week of college football against the spread.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: paydawg on September 02, 2016, 10:14:45 AM
I have SC covering the ~11 point spread (Alabama -11). Max Browne is a redshirt junior. He's been in the program forever and was the top recruit a few years ago. Who knows what the Tide will have behind center. And it's in Dallas - a neutral field.

How much are your betting?

I think Lane is going to stomp all over SC. Alabama recruiting class, coaches, team, program > USC

Nominal amounts. A few friends and I compete against each other picking a few games each week of college football against the spread.

Dallas is not going to be a neutral field.  I'm guessing it'll be about 70% Bama fans because they travel well and it's not that far from Tuscaloosa.  It's only an 8 hour drive and it's a long weekend. 
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: Paris on September 02, 2016, 12:26:28 PM
SC is going to shock the world! I'll be there supporting my Trojans. As long as it's a good game I'll be happy.  Would suck to travel there to see a blowout. But at least I'll get to check out Jerrys world.

My SC hubs was trying to convince me that it's a good idea to drop a couple grand to go to this game. Glad my Bruin senses talked him out of it  ;D My bet's on Alabama...

Your husbands problem was marrying a bruin :-)
I married another Trojan :-)
And unfortunately Alabama probably will win :-(

Ha ha, good one.

But her husband did merry smart though, he got to live in OH instead. :)

That's Right, that's Right. The Bruin route is always the smarter choice  ;)
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: Paris on September 04, 2016, 12:42:27 PM
The "I told you so" to my Trojan this morning felt extra sweet. So glad I got to keep that couple grand in my pocket over having to sit at that game for the 52-6 loss. I know "in his head" he was thanking his beautiful "intelligent" Bruin wife  ;D
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: qwerty on September 04, 2016, 06:53:50 PM
It was still a great time in Dallas :-)

While the loss sucked, the experience was definetley worth it. AT&T stadium is a great place to watch a game. I knew going into it we were gong to lose, just a question of by how many.

after this experience I've decided I'm going to start going to 1-3 big games a year such Alabama vs LSU, OSU vs Michigan, etc. If last nights energy in the stadium was any indication of what games are like in the south and Midwest it will totally be worth it.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: eyephone on September 30, 2016, 04:39:47 PM
It was still a great time in Dallas :-)

While the loss sucked, the experience was definetley worth it. AT&T stadium is a great place to watch a game. I knew going into it we were gong to lose, just a question of by how many.

after this experience I've decided I'm going to start going to 1-3 big games a year such Alabama vs LSU, OSU vs Michigan, etc. If last nights energy in the stadium was any indication of what games are like in the south and Midwest it will totally be worth it.

So what's going to happen to the head coach of USC?
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: eyephone on June 14, 2020, 05:57:43 PM
USC REMOVES BUILDING NAME, BUST OF FORMER UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT FROM CAMPUS OVER RACIALLY DIVISIVE VIEWS

https://abc7.com/usc-rufus-von-kleinsmid-center-for-international-and-public-affairs-racism/6245228/

Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: aquabliss on June 14, 2020, 06:20:34 PM
Next is Las Vegas McCarran Airport:
https://battlebornprogress.actionkit.com/sign/remove-racist-mccarran-our-airport/
Title: Misery Index's No. 1 spot goes to Southern California, Clay Helton
Post by: eyephone on September 13, 2021, 01:10:21 PM
USA Today: Misery Index's No. 1 spot goes to Southern California, Clay Helton

But when you see losses like Saturday, when the Trojans got blown off the field by Stanford 42-28, it seems like only a matter of time before the inevitable becomes reality.

The key stat from this game? Nine penalties for 111 yards, which has been a consistent theme of the Helton era. Not only have the Trojans been flat-out not good enough against the really good teams on their schedule, they’re consistently undisciplined.

And the fact that USC flopped this quickly against Stanford, a team that scored just seven points in a season-opening loss to Kansas State, puts the Trojans at No. 1 on this week’s Misery Index, a weekly measurement of knee-jerk reactions based on what each fan base just watched.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/dan-wolken/2021/09/12/southern-cal-clay-helton-college-football-misery-index-loss-stanford/8308876002/

Here is a summary of the loss.
https://trojanswire.usatoday.com/lists/the-clay-helton-list-of-failures-in-complete-systemic-breakdown-vs-stanford/



Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: qwerty on September 13, 2021, 01:51:24 PM
That was a painful loss. I can’t wait till Helton gets fired.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: The California Court Company on September 13, 2021, 02:32:46 PM
That was a painful loss. I can’t wait till Helton gets fired.

Good call. Can you tell me the lottery numbers for this week?
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on September 13, 2021, 02:38:35 PM
That was a painful loss. I can’t wait till Helton gets fired.

Horrible loss, I wonder if they'll get rid of him mid season or after the end of the year.  The sooner, the better.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: The California Court Company on September 13, 2021, 02:44:14 PM
That was a painful loss. I can’t wait till Helton gets fired.

Horrible loss, I wonder if they'll get rid of him mid season or after the end of the year.  The sooner, the better.

He gone already. before your post
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: USCTrojanCPA on September 13, 2021, 05:34:24 PM
That was a painful loss. I can’t wait till Helton gets fired.

Horrible loss, I wonder if they'll get rid of him mid season or after the end of the year.  The sooner, the better.

He gone already. before your post

That's a pleasant surprise, now who is his replacement going to be?
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: morekaos on September 13, 2021, 06:05:08 PM
$10,000,000.00 buyout payday…he hit the lottery. ;D ;D >:D
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: qwerty on September 13, 2021, 06:53:28 PM
These buyouts are always amazing. But there is no money to pay the players. The big money is with the tv contracts yet the the players are dumb enough to be satisfied with name, image and likeness.

If the SEC players sat out for two weeks by the third week they would be getting their first check from that TV money
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: Kangen.Irvine on September 14, 2021, 05:55:57 AM
Any player wishing to make a substantial salary can take the risk and go pro. All revenues above a specified amount should go directly to lowering the cost of college for all students at the school. Therefore the winners such as Alabama can offer a complete college education for all of its students at zero/low cost.
Title: Re: Trouble in Troy (SC)
Post by: fatduck on September 14, 2021, 07:22:42 AM
Any player wishing to make a substantial salary can take the risk and go pro. All revenues above a specified amount should go directly to lowering the cost of college for all students at the school. Therefore the winners such as Alabama can offer a complete college education for all of its students at zero/low cost.
except the NFL, totally coincidentally, requires you to be 3 years out of high school to enter the draft
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