Veterans Cemetery coming to Irvine

iacrenter said:
Kings said:
WTTCHMN said:
Irvine council will study original veterans cemetery site further
https://www.ocregister.com/2018/07/...tudy-original-veterans-cemetery-site-further/
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"let's spend another couple million studying a site we already studied"
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It's just another delaying tactic. Veterans won't get their cemetery at the GP.
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Right, there are too much contentious for that piece of land. It will never happen. You will have IUSD, Lennar / 5P along with other builders join forces to support an alternate sites. There is ZERO chance of any memorial in Irvine.
 
I have been a strong and consistent supporter of a veterans cemetery within the hallowed grounds of the former Marine Air Station El Toro, where so many brave men and women flew to Vietnam and other war zones, some never to come back.

The Great Park is an altogether fitting and proper location for this veterans cemetery, where it would also be a lasting memorial to the Great Park?s military heritage.

As we continue to seek a site for the Veterans Cemetery, it has occurred to us and others, as mentioned July 10th at our council meeting, that the area within the Great Park planned for a golf course offers several benefits as a potential location.

The golf course site has ample space, at about 195 acres; it is within the Great Park and in the heart of the former MCAS El Toro, honoring those who served there; it is not located adjacent to neighborhoods or schools, and it could provide multiple points of access for future visitation and processions. If up to 125 acres were to be dedicated to the Veterans Cemetery, 70 plus acres would still be available for a smaller golf-related use, other recreational uses and a potential for the expansion of the Organic Circle Farm, helping with annual revenues for the Great Park.

The golf course site wouldn?t require the 40 million dollars demolition and remediation costs that the ARDA site requires. The golf course site has also gone thru the CEQA process. Additionally, by creating a veteran?s cemetery in the heart of the Great Park, not outside the Great Park where the ARDA site is located, our Veterans would realize a true resting place inside the Great Park, where so many citizens have requested the cemetery to be developed.

See our proposal athttps://melissafoxblog.com/2018/07/13/shea-fox-vet-cem-press-release/
 
Melissa said:
I have been a strong and consistent supporter of a veterans cemetery within the hallowed grounds of the former Marine Air Station El Toro, where so many brave men and women flew to Vietnam and other war zones, some never to come back.

The Great Park is an altogether fitting and proper location for this veterans cemetery, where it would also be a lasting memorial to the Great Park?s military heritage.

As we continue to seek a site for the Veterans Cemetery, it has occurred to us and others, as mentioned July 10th at our council meeting, that the area within the Great Park planned for a golf course offers several benefits as a potential location.

The golf course site has ample space, at about 195 acres; it is within the Great Park and in the heart of the former MCAS El Toro, honoring those who served there; it is not located adjacent to neighborhoods or schools, and it could provide multiple points of access for future visitation and processions. If up to 125 acres were to be dedicated to the Veterans Cemetery, 70 plus acres would still be available for a smaller golf-related use, other recreational uses and a potential for the expansion of the Organic Circle Farm, helping with annual revenues for the Great Park.

The golf course site wouldn?t require the 40 million dollars demolition and remediation costs that the ARDA site requires. The golf course site has also gone thru the CEQA process. Additionally, by creating a veteran?s cemetery in the heart of the Great Park, not outside the Great Park where the ARDA site is located, our Veterans would realize a true resting place inside the Great Park, where so many citizens have requested the cemetery to be developed.

See our proposal athttps://melissafoxblog.com/2018/07/13/shea-fox-vet-cem-press-release/
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Ex-30 year mayor and councilman pseudo-czar Larry Agran says in his CityWatch (August 2018 Fishwrapper, page 3): ?Certainly, the Veterans Cemetery is more important than the $25 million golf course ?.?

And we agree!

So ?hey Ed Pope and you real Irvine veterans! Build a Veterans Cemetery actually on MCAS and IN the Great Park - where we other common Veterans wanted it in the first place! On the Golf Course of course, of course Mr. Ed!

What a super proposal, you can't possibly find any fault with that can you?

? What traffic?
? What land-grab-give-away?
? What freeway noise?
? What greedy developer profits?
? Without all the grossly expensive problems of ARDA!

Sounds like a real winner to us!  What say you?

Oh Ed Pope? Speak up! If you actually really want a Veteran Cemetery, let's work together for this one.  The challenge is down. Let?s do our genuine Great Park Veterans Cemetery on the Golf Course and end all the acrimony in a heartbeat.

BUILD THE VETERANS CEMETERY IN THE GREAT PARK NOW!

But we all know that you don?t want a Veterans Cemetery at all, and are playing this fabricated crisis issue, group-bellowing "recall" as an Agranista political play riding Vets as pawns and bait. Sure seems that way as we smell the same ?ol stink in the Fishwrapper.

Show us what you really are, a real Veteran or just Larry's token .... now is your time to be more than a retired schoolteacher, be a hero.
 
I guess Bill Cook is now on 5P?s payroll.  Sayonara cemetery!
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/06/16/new-trails-are-open-at-the-orange-county-great-park-high-five/

Marine Corps veteran Bill Cook, 72, who served at the former Air Station El Toro, center, starts the high-five chain with fellow veterans John Rowe, 72, in red, and Robert Brower, 76, during the Great High Five and Bosque Celebration at the Orange County Great Park in Irvine on Saturday, June 15, 2019. The event marked the opening of the Upper Bee and Bosque nature areas and trails with an attempt to break the Guinness record for longest high-five chain.
 
Christina Shea and Anthony Kuo are also in Emile?s back pocket:

Irvine Mayor Christina Shea and Mayor Pro Tem Anthony Kuo, help finish the high-five chain as FivePoint Chairman and CEO Emile Haddad, awaits at left, during the Great High Five and Bosque Celebration at the Orange County Great Park in Irvine on Saturday, June 15, 2019. They fell well short of the 3,473 people record with just under 1600 participants.
 
"I guess Bill Cook is now on 5P?s payroll."

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2457902751162599&set=pcb.2457796687839872&type=3&theater

Completely in the bag for sure!
 
The ideas is to makes our veterans lives longer and more hopeful as they age. Once our politician made up their mind, veterans will loose all hopes and all that is left is looking at their future graves. Consider it a thoughtful manipulation, from all angles.  :)
 
Well this is a surprise:

Haddad and Shea in cahoots to actually build the cemetery?  Or more political theater?

Irvine mayor says using land for veterans cemetery instead of golf course now has additional $28 million offer of funding help

Money pledged by FivePoint Holdings plus already-budgeted state funding would total more than $50 million, which could be enough for the project
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/06/...-additional-28-million-offer-of-funding-help/
 
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