TIC donating shovel ready land for open space?

[paperboyNC]

http://www.latimes.com/local/orangecounty/la-me-irvine-ranch-20141006-story.html

 

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LOL how is land zoned 1.4 Preservation shovel ready?

 

[Joe61022]

Did you even read the article?

"Unlike the 2010 land gift, though, which largely had already been set aside as protected open space, the acreage the Irvine Co. is now handing over was essentially shovel-ready for 5,500 homes.

'We could go down and pull a permit today and build', said Daniel Miller, Irvine Co. senior vice president of entitlement and public affairs."

LOL how is land zoned 1.4 Preservation shovel ready?

 

[test]

Did you even read the article?

"Unlike the 2010 land gift, though, which largely had already been set aside as protected open space, the acreage the Irvine Co. is now handing over was essentially shovel-ready for 5,500 homes.

'We could go down and pull a permit today and build', said Daniel Miller, Irvine Co. senior vice president of entitlement and public affairs."

LOL how is land zoned 1.4 Preservation shovel ready?

Did you even look at the zoning map?

 

[Joe61022]

So you're saying there's not zoning for 5,000 houses, TIC is lying, and the LA Times didn't fact check their article?

Did you even read the article?

"Unlike the 2010 land gift, though, which largely had already been set aside as protected open space, the acreage the Irvine Co. is now handing over was essentially shovel-ready for 5,500 homes.

'We could go down and pull a permit today and build', said Daniel Miller, Irvine Co. senior vice president of entitlement and public affairs."

LOL how is land zoned 1.4 Preservation shovel ready?

Did you even look at the zoning map?

 

[test]

So you're saying there's not zoning for 5,000 houses, TIC is lying, and the LA Times didn't fact check their article?

Did you even read the article?

"Unlike the 2010 land gift, though, which largely had already been set aside as protected open space, the acreage the Irvine Co. is now handing over was essentially shovel-ready for 5,500 homes.

'We could go down and pull a permit today and build', said Daniel Miller, Irvine Co. senior vice president of entitlement and public affairs."

LOL how is land zoned 1.4 Preservation shovel ready?

Did you even look at the zoning map?

This is what I said:

LOL how is land zoned 1.4 Preservation shovel ready?

 

[mchoo]

So you're saying there's not zoning for 5,000 houses, TIC is lying, and the LA Times didn't fact check their article?

Did you even read the article?

"Unlike the 2010 land gift, though, which largely had already been set aside as protected open space, the acreage the Irvine Co. is now handing over was essentially shovel-ready for 5,500 homes.

'We could go down and pull a permit today and build', said Daniel Miller, Irvine Co. senior vice president of entitlement and public affairs."

LOL how is land zoned 1.4 Preservation shovel ready?

Did you even look at the zoning map?

This is what I said:

LOL how is land zoned 1.4 Preservation shovel ready?

What zoning map are you looking at?  Seems like City of Irvine because 1.4 is an Irvine zoning designation.  If you read the article, you'd see that 1,400 acres is in the city of Orange and 1,100 acres is in Anaheim Hills.

Here's a link with a map of the land they're donating:

http://www.irvinecompany.com/irvine-company-completes-open-space-master-plan-with-gift-of-additional-2-500-acres-brings-preserved-irvine-ranch-lands-to-55-000-acres?y=2014

As you can see, the land in Orange is east of the 241 off Santiago Canyon Road and the land in Anaheim Hills is next to the 241/91 interchange.

 

[test]

So you're saying there's not zoning for 5,000 houses, TIC is lying, and the LA Times didn't fact check their article?

Did you even read the article?

"Unlike the 2010 land gift, though, which largely had already been set aside as protected open space, the acreage the Irvine Co. is now handing over was essentially shovel-ready for 5,500 homes.

'We could go down and pull a permit today and build', said Daniel Miller, Irvine Co. senior vice president of entitlement and public affairs."

LOL how is land zoned 1.4 Preservation shovel ready?

Did you even look at the zoning map?

This is what I said:

LOL how is land zoned 1.4 Preservation shovel ready?

What zoning map are you looking at?  Seems like City of Irvine because 1.4 is an Irvine zoning designation.  If you read the article, you'd see that 1,400 acres is in the city of Orange and 1,100 acres is in Anaheim Hills.

Here's a link with a map of the land they're donating:

http://www.irvinecompany.com/irvine-company-completes-open-space-master-plan-with-gift-of-additional-2-500-acres-brings-preserved-irvine-ranch-lands-to-55-000-acres?y=2014

As you can see, the land in Orange is east of the 241 off Santiago Canyon Road and the land in Anaheim Hills is next to the 241/91 interchange.

It's near Orange not in Orange.

Irvine Company today announced a major land gift of 2,500 acres near Orange and Anaheim Hills

And come on, search.  The same zoning in north Irvine extends into that area.
http://ocplanning.net/civicax/filebank/blobdload.aspx?BlobID=9062

 

[mchoo]

So you're saying there's not zoning for 5,000 houses, TIC is lying, and the LA Times didn't fact check their article?

Did you even read the article?

"Unlike the 2010 land gift, though, which largely had already been set aside as protected open space, the acreage the Irvine Co. is now handing over was essentially shovel-ready for 5,500 homes.

'We could go down and pull a permit today and build', said Daniel Miller, Irvine Co. senior vice president of entitlement and public affairs."

LOL how is land zoned 1.4 Preservation shovel ready?

Did you even look at the zoning map?

This is what I said:

LOL how is land zoned 1.4 Preservation shovel ready?

What zoning map are you looking at?  Seems like City of Irvine because 1.4 is an Irvine zoning designation.  If you read the article, you'd see that 1,400 acres is in the city of Orange and 1,100 acres is in Anaheim Hills.

Here's a link with a map of the land they're donating:

http://www.irvinecompany.com/irvine-company-completes-open-space-master-plan-with-gift-of-additional-2-500-acres-brings-preserved-irvine-ranch-lands-to-55-000-acres?y=2014

As you can see, the land in Orange is east of the 241 off Santiago Canyon Road and the land in Anaheim Hills is next to the 241/91 interchange.

It's near Orange not in Orange.

Irvine Company today announced a major land gift of 2,500 acres near Orange and Anaheim Hills

And come on, search.  The same zoning in north Irvine extends into that area.
http://ocplanning.net/civicax/filebank/blobdload.aspx?BlobID=9062

How about you look at a map that isn't 9 years old?  "This map is for informational purposes only for unincorporated areas of Orange County established as of May 16, 2005.  Zoning classifications are current through May 24, 2005."

"And come on, search." You'd find that the land "near Orange" is now in Orange or within the sphere of influence (meaning if it did get developed, Orange would likely annex it into the city). http://www.cityoforange.org/civicax/filebank/blobdload.aspx?blobid=9420

Also, the map you linked to shows that the land being donated is "A1" = General Agricultural, NOT "OS" = Open Space.

 

[test]

So you're saying there's not zoning for 5,000 houses, TIC is lying, and the LA Times didn't fact check their article?

Did you even read the article?

"Unlike the 2010 land gift, though, which largely had already been set aside as protected open space, the acreage the Irvine Co. is now handing over was essentially shovel-ready for 5,500 homes.

'We could go down and pull a permit today and build', said Daniel Miller, Irvine Co. senior vice president of entitlement and public affairs."

LOL how is land zoned 1.4 Preservation shovel ready?

Did you even look at the zoning map?

This is what I said:

LOL how is land zoned 1.4 Preservation shovel ready?

What zoning map are you looking at?  Seems like City of Irvine because 1.4 is an Irvine zoning designation.  If you read the article, you'd see that 1,400 acres is in the city of Orange and 1,100 acres is in Anaheim Hills.

Here's a link with a map of the land they're donating:

http://www.irvinecompany.com/irvine-company-completes-open-space-master-plan-with-gift-of-additional-2-500-acres-brings-preserved-irvine-ranch-lands-to-55-000-acres?y=2014

As you can see, the land in Orange is east of the 241 off Santiago Canyon Road and the land in Anaheim Hills is next to the 241/91 interchange.

It's near Orange not in Orange.

Irvine Company today announced a major land gift of 2,500 acres near Orange and Anaheim Hills

And come on, search.  The same zoning in north Irvine extends into that area.
http://ocplanning.net/civicax/filebank/blobdload.aspx?BlobID=9062

How about you look at a map that isn't 9 years old?  "This map is for informational purposes only for unincorporated areas of Orange County established as of May 16, 2005.  Zoning classifications are current through May 24, 2005."

"And come on, search." You'd find that the land "near Orange" is now in Orange or within the sphere of influence (meaning if it did get developed, Orange would likely annex it into the city). http://www.cityoforange.org/civicax/filebank/blobdload.aspx?blobid=9420

Also, the map you linked to shows that the land being donated is "A1" = General Agricultural, NOT "OS" = Open Space.

Do you have a newer map?  If not what's your point?  I showed you what the zoning is and you still have yet to show otherwise.

 

[mchoo]

So you're saying there's not zoning for 5,000 houses, TIC is lying, and the LA Times didn't fact check their article?

Did you even read the article?

"Unlike the 2010 land gift, though, which largely had already been set aside as protected open space, the acreage the Irvine Co. is now handing over was essentially shovel-ready for 5,500 homes.

'We could go down and pull a permit today and build', said Daniel Miller, Irvine Co. senior vice president of entitlement and public affairs."

LOL how is land zoned 1.4 Preservation shovel ready?

Did you even look at the zoning map?

This is what I said:

LOL how is land zoned 1.4 Preservation shovel ready?

What zoning map are you looking at?  Seems like City of Irvine because 1.4 is an Irvine zoning designation.  If you read the article, you'd see that 1,400 acres is in the city of Orange and 1,100 acres is in Anaheim Hills.

Here's a link with a map of the land they're donating:

http://www.irvinecompany.com/irvine-company-completes-open-space-master-plan-with-gift-of-additional-2-500-acres-brings-preserved-irvine-ranch-lands-to-55-000-acres?y=2014

As you can see, the land in Orange is east of the 241 off Santiago Canyon Road and the land in Anaheim Hills is next to the 241/91 interchange.

It's near Orange not in Orange.

Irvine Company today announced a major land gift of 2,500 acres near Orange and Anaheim Hills

And come on, search.  The same zoning in north Irvine extends into that area.
http://ocplanning.net/civicax/filebank/blobdload.aspx?BlobID=9062

How about you look at a map that isn't 9 years old?  "This map is for informational purposes only for unincorporated areas of Orange County established as of May 16, 2005.  Zoning classifications are current through May 24, 2005."

"And come on, search." You'd find that the land "near Orange" is now in Orange or within the sphere of influence (meaning if it did get developed, Orange would likely annex it into the city). http://www.cityoforange.org/civicax/filebank/blobdload.aspx?blobid=9420

Also, the map you linked to shows that the land being donated is "A1" = General Agricultural, NOT "OS" = Open Space.

Do you have a newer map?  If not what's your point?  I showed you what the zoning is and you still have yet to show otherwise.

Look at the link I posted.  Page LU-25.  The western portion (west of Irvine Lake) has already been annexed by the city (now zoned P-C=planned community).  The eastern portion (east of Irvine Lake) is in the sphere of influence.  The City of Orange General Plan included the sphere of influence in their EIR.  If the developer wanted to develop that land, the city of Orange would have to annex it first, but it would be developable (Or they could go through the entitlement process again with the County...).  In no way is that land "Preservation" or "Open Space" as you implied in your first post to this thread.

If you want a zoning map, google "City of Orange zoning map":
http://gis.cityoforange.org/Maps/WallMaps/Zoning_1000scale.pdf

 

[gasman]

OK, you both get gold stars on your forehead.  Now go outside and play...