Homeless Vets (and Women) Facility Adjacent to Altair

Belly: come to think of it the nimby should of been okay with the first offer. Since it?s temporary housing. The key word temporary. Now it might be a dual combination.

(Just a thought, I can be wrong or right)

In general: the first offer is usually the best offer  ;)
 
Burn That Belly said:
eyephone said:
Belly: come to think of it the nimby should of been okay with the first offer. Since it?s temporary housing. The key word temporary. Now it might be a dual combination.

(Just a thought, I can be wrong or right)

In general: the first offer is usually the best offer  ;)

People twisted the story. "Tent" city? "Tents" ?  Really.  It wasn't going to be camping tents. They wanted to spread fear and propaganda and rile everybody up.

Now, they hear "aesthetically beautiful" facility for veterans and "women" because you know, "women"...as in #metoo movement.. and vets.... heck a good portion of the homeless -and- the ones that do drugs ARE the "homeless" vets. But it's been worded politically correct now so as to sound like we're doing good patriotism and doing our part! And of course, we can't abandon our "vets". That would make Irvine look bad. After all, the homeless vets (whether honorable or dishonorably discharged) they put their lives on the line in the name of freedom!

Support our troops! Remember our Veterans.
  :D
 
The proposed location by Irvine  is nothing more than a carrot dangling on the sticks. It would not be built here with the permanent structures on county land. This parcel of land is hilly and required a substantial amount of TIME AND MONEY.. County BOS would not spend all of their money to get this area graded.

Anyone want to take a bet the homeless structure would not be built here? I even give $110 for 100 bet.
 
BTB thanks for sharing the video.

So does this mean no homeless in Irvine Blvd/Alton pkway intersection? Since that's right next to portola high? Or is veteran/woman group, different than the all encompassing homeless group?

On the other hand, the originally proposed site on marine way is further away from any schools, perhaps less direct impact on young children?

If neither of these sites are feasible, where would be the next possible site?
 
Math...

Originally they claimed over 1000 people were inhabitng the river bed.

The county offered motel stays to 697.  (hmm, did the other 300 just leave?)

Of the 697, 108 were evicted or disappeared before they could be assessed.
of the remaining 589, 111 declined all services.  another 71 did not show up or left on their own, etc,

338   335 went to some sort of shelter or service (335 because incarcerated isn't service or shelter IMHO)

So when we finally decided to enforce basic civilization on the 1000 people in the riverbed basically 1/3 cleared out before taking a free motel for a month, 1/3 evicted, declined help or disappeared before they could be assessed for services, and the remaining 1/3 went roughly 50/50 to mental health services or other services.

JIMHO, there dosn't appear to be a shortage of services, there appears to be a shortage of willingness to take services.
https://www.ocregister.com/2018/04/...eless-people-since-their-motel-stays-expired/

 
nosuchreality said:
Math...

Originally they claimed over 1000 people were inhabitng the river bed.

The county offered motel stays to 697.  (hmm, did the other 300 just leave?)

Of the 697, 108 were evicted or disappeared before they could be assessed.
of the remaining 589, 111 declined all services.  another 71 did not show up or left on their own, etc,

338   335 went to some sort of shelter or service (335 because incarcerated isn't service or shelter IMHO)

So when we finally decided to enforce basic civilization on the 1000 people in the riverbed basically 1/3 cleared out before taking a free motel for a month, 1/3 evicted, declined help or disappeared before they could be assessed for services, and the remaining 1/3 went roughly 50/50 to mental health services or other services.

JIMHO, there dosn't appear to be a shortage of services, there appears to be a shortage of willingness to take services.
https://www.ocregister.com/2018/04/...eless-people-since-their-motel-stays-expired/

Base on this math, it doesn't make sense to build anything.  Where is the evidence showing the remainder (300+) requests to live in Irvine ?  Also why move them out if the riverbed to begin with?  If they were already living there, not complaining, why did Santa ana kick them out without a solution already in place.  Why can't other county help fund Santa Ana in continue housing homeless by riverbed where they have been.? Why waste more tax payer money in multiple region? For law enforcement, for building, and potential negative impact to community safety in all the other regions?
 
I think this is great location.  So will Irvine pay to add a bus route to get to that location?  I mean that's quite some aerobic walking from any nearest bus stop location.  ;D
 
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