Ventura Real estate Market - anyone familiar?

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Is anyone here familiar with the Ventura realestate market? I am trying to see if things are as dire in Ventura as they are in Irvine (presently and in the future). I don't think there has been a huge influx of people into the Ventura market as there was in OC and Irvine, very few housing developments were built in the past 5 years. Prices and foreclosures don't seem to be as readily apparent here as they are elsewhere.



The reason I ask is that I am in the market to buy and after reading through this blog it almost seems like I'd be a damned fool to do so.



I know this graph is for San Diego, but Ventura has seen similar gains as well and it scares me to even consider jumping in now when looking at it.







Should I assume that just about all SoCal markets will follow the Irvine market trends but with varying severity?









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are you talking about ventura county or ventura city?



I also noticed on the hotpads foreclosure map that there were very few foreclosures in ventura. This really surprised me as the prices there really ran up. I don't have any numbers but I know from anecdotal evidence that prices have dropped quite a bit and that there aren't many buyers. I personally think they still have farther to go based on all the fundamental information presented on this site - rent equivalents, median income vs. median home price, etc.
 
[quote author="movingaround" date=1208910297]are you talking about ventura county or ventura city?



I also noticed on the hotpads foreclosure map that there were very few foreclosures in ventura. This really surprised me as the prices there really ran up. I don't have any numbers but I know from anecdotal evidence that prices have dropped quite a bit and that there aren't many buyers. I personally think they still have farther to go based on all the fundamental information presented on this site - rent equivalents, median income vs. median home price, etc.</blockquote>


I am speaking of Ventura City, but it is part of a larger metro are composing of Oxnard and Camarillo and directly borders Oxnard.



They have had limited expansion in the past 5 years, the city tries to limit expansions and the majority of the residents have been here for 10 years or more as there hasn't been a jump in job growth for the area and Ventura isn't exactly 'the place to be' so younger people are not attracted to area. Ventura houses many Santa Barbara commuters which provides additional stability. The prices may have run up, but properties have not been purchased at the record levels experienced elsewhere. So the concern I have for the area is the refinancing on the equity that may have taken place as those property values ran up, which has yet to be seen but is soon coming. Case in point is the townhome I am currently interested in. Its a 3bd, 2 bath, 1300 sqft unit with 290/month HOA purchased in 1999 for 130,500 with refinancing history of 150,000 in 2003, and 130,500 in 2005. (i may be wrong here, this is just the history that I have gathered from Zillow, I am not sure if those values shown are refinancing where equity is pulled or not) The house is about as upgraded as you can get and I estimate 50-60k in improvements on the property. Property has been on the market for 9 months and was first listed at 399k, then reduced to 385k in early April. It's price does not reflect the surrounding properties which are listed anywhere from 290-330, though those properties are not nearly as nice.



Ventura County is very diverse in the types of markets. Thousand Oaks, Newbury Park, and Westlake are primarily bedroom communities to LA. Camarillo is considered a bedroom community to both LA but also the industry located in Oxnard, Thousand Oaks, and the local Naval bases. Oxnard houses most of the agricultural community and has a few manufacturing facilities. The 2 Naval bases in the area provide a very stable job market (especially in times of recession) for a good percentage for Port Hueneme, Oxnard, Camarillo, and Ventura. These bases are primarily R&D;bases for the Navy and have large civilian populations. There are also a few industrial complexes in the Oxnard area.



Oxnard, which borders Ventura, has experienced major expansion and development in the past 10 years and the town is riddled with foreclosures and price drops. Oxnard is listed as one of the hot spots in the recent housing data for March and may be one of the factors dragging down Ventura values in addition to the market as a whole.
 
Have you looked up the rental equivalent for this townhouse? I know someone in ventura city renting a 2000+ sq foot home for about 2500 a month. The houses in the same area they are renting are not yet down to a rental equivalent price as they are selling for around 500,000 +. Using the formula talked about here (2500 X 160) the homes should get down to around 400,000.



I know that many people in Ventura think that it is special - i.e., no room to grow due to the hills and the city's no growth policies, it's superiority in many people's minds over Oxnard and it's hope to be a tourist destination. However, in my opinion there are just so few jobs there I don't see how it can sustain the housing prices. There is not one major coroporation there that I know of since Kinko's left - unless something new has moved in I haven't heard about!



I would defintetly find out what the townhouses you are looking at are renting for right now before spending the money.
 
For this place, its probably 2000-2300. I am currently renting a 3 bedroom townhome for 1800/month that is not even comparable in condition.



I resubmitted my offer today, I am sure they wont take it. If thats the case, I'll resubmit in a month for even lower than my initial offer, thats if i dont find something else in the mean time.
 
Man, for some reason I feel like the sucker catching the falling knife on this deal when there are going to be much better deals.
 
[quote author="movingaround" date=1208934616]Have you looked up the rental equivalent for this townhouse? I know someone in ventura city renting a 2000+ sq foot home for about 2500 a month. The houses in the same area they are renting are not yet down to a rental equivalent price as they are selling for around 500,000 +. Using the formula talked about here (2500 X 160) the homes should get down to around 400,000.



I know that many people in Ventura think that it is special - i.e., no room to grow due to the hills and the city's no growth policies, it's superiority in many people's minds over Oxnard and it's hope to be a tourist destination. However, in my opinion there are just so few jobs there I don't see how it can sustain the housing prices. There is not one major coroporation there that I know of since Kinko's left - unless something new has moved in I haven't heard about!



I would defintetly find out what the townhouses you are looking at are renting for right now before spending the money.</blockquote>


In Ventura there are no big corporations. But there are 2 Naval bases within 20 minutes that are heavily employeed by DoD engineers and DoD contractors. The bases are R&D;focused and provide a lot of government contracts to smaller fabrication shops in the area.



There are also a few defense contractors located in Camarillo.



The HAAS headquarters is located in Oxnard and they are one of the largest makers of CNC Mills and Lathes. There is also a Proctor and Gamble factory. The port in Port Hueneme is also one of the largest ports for BMW, Audi, and Range Rover. There are some BMW engineering offices nearby.



Like i said, Ventura is also home to many who work in Santa barbara.
 
Didn't realize some of those things were going on in the ventura/oxnard/camarillo area - Interesting!



Good luck to you on this deal - I hope it all works out for the best!
 
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