<p>Wow, i'm so glad he's gone.  BUT back on topic, yes these guys did everything they could to prop up their company.  It almost goes without saying.  Everytime there was a occourance for it to happen, it did.  Anybody with half a brain should have diverisified thier portfolio anyways.</p>
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	<p>As for  Moonie's comments, yes Irvine can be fake at times, but its all how you hold yourself and what you do.  I have choosen to NOT associate myself with these fake people and when they do come around, I quietly walk away.  Because of this behavior they have ostricized me out of there little click.  Who has the last laugh, it depends upon your point of view.</p>
	<p>I have my apartments and other investments to fall back on.  I don't drive a Uber-fancy car nor do I like the OC lifestyle.  </p>
	<p>They have to support thier looks, thier lifestyle and their debt, you be the judge.</p>
	<p>Anyway good luck with your new life.</p>
	<p>-bix</p>
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