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Even with a pool, it doesn't cost $500k for a decent yard, especially with these lots. If you were talking about those 10k+ sf TB lots, sure. But these are sub 7k sf lots, most of which are even sub 6k sf lots.

??? You don't need $500k for a decent yard. Even $300k would give you a GREAT yard. These Brookfield lots aren't that big, only a bit bigger than my Cielo home and we only spent $120k on landscaping.

GP and PS are old news. Summit is what PS and OH were a couple of years ago. And from what I heard, none of the TB buyers are investors, so they are not likely to back out. The ones that backed out of GP/PS were investors who knew they were losing money if they went through with it.

Weren't you the one that say they wouldn't sell at all? They're selling much better than you claimed. I wasn't wrong about the 300 people on the waitlist.

Uh no. The $40k SALT deduction means you only need to pay $40k SALT, not 37% of what you paid in SALT. You could pay $0 state income taxes as long as you pay $40k property taxes. Easy peasy for anyone who just bought at OH Summit. :ROFLMAO:

You can't subtract standard deduction to get to SALT. It's either SALT or standard deduction.

Most of the Cielo homes do have 20+ ft setback. Only the ones smaller than 4700 sq ft lots don't. My plan 1 sits on a 5100 sq ft lot and the setback is 21 ft from the wall closest to the backwall and 30 ft from the wall further away from the backwall. My lot is slight V shape, which means the...

That puts most of PS into high risk fire zone. Funny thing is that Cielo is in the moderate (yellow) zone. 😂

First of all, the houses themselves only take up about 1700 sq ft since it's a two story home, you know? And these lots are quite a bit larger than 4000 sq ft. Only a couple of them are 4400 sq ft. Others are 4800 sq ft or larger, like 5400 sq ft all the way up to 7000 sq ft. For your...

These are all view lots, so it's not that outrageous.

Agreed. For rich guys who would only stay in a place less than a month, wouldn't they pick Newport instead of Irvine?

It really doesn't make sense to close the priority list, but Shea seems to do this all the time. I mean, 100, 200, 500 people on the list, what's the difference?

That's because MOST of PS is not near the toll road. It's only a small area, from the toll road to around Ridge Valley, that is southwest of the landfill. Most of PS is either south or slightly southeast of the landfill. The new area of PS is mostly southeast of the landfill, so that's why we're...

Decent lot sizes, but a lot smaller than the Cielo one at 6928 sqft. Also noticed that 424 and 432 Fieldhouse had been reserved now. Only 428 still available.

I guess it's considered cheaper than Cielo since these Vista homes look like view lots also. How big are these Vista lots, though?

If you're talking about Crestview, then $3M-$4M is correct. YMMV was probably talking about TB, which starts at $6M for normal lots and could go as high as $8M for view lots.

The pricing for those Vista homes is ridiculous. So their model homes are not open to public yet? We went to check out the Crestview model homes this weekend and Brookfield and TB areas were blocked off.

Their thinking is flawed due to the current housing market condition. Your math is also flawed because you only earn $160k after 1 year, which is not what they had in mind. They thought they could flip within 3 months, at the most, which, again, is flawed due to current housing market condition.

It only takes common sense to understand that someone looking at $3.5M+ home is not going for $6M+ home. Cielo lots that were $5M+ were view lots, which would go at $7.5M to $8M at Pinnacle and Skyline. These $6M lots are just normal lots. View lots will have $1.5M lot premium. You keep...

Apples and oranges. Someone who's looking at Cielo is definitely not waiting for Pinnacle or Skyline, which are anticipated to start from $6M.