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The plan 2 ra why does ravello look like a big condo when I walk through it though? It really feels “cheap” compared to Evergreen or my favorite, Cetara. Like it says plan 2 starts at 4m plus. Is that the model cause otherwise that’s a joke.

I’m not saying one should *buy* Evergreen over someplace in Irvine, i’m just saying it’s sad how crappy the model 3 ravello feels compared to evergreen’s models. It’s just depressing, especially given the delta in price.

I get the appeal of Irvine, but if I was buying plan 3 of Ravello for what, 3M and someone took me to the Evergreen models in The Meadows i’d cry. For substantially less you get *such* a nicer house, at least from how the models feel. Very similar floorplan but the much more expensive one...

I can’t imagine living in a house with a formal living room and dining room in anything smaller than 3500 sq ft. You certainly will have a cramped kitchen, and then it’s weird because the people cooking or prepping are separated out, and likely the dining room is a bit cramped. It’s also...

Yeah we knew this was going to happen regardless of national trends. Remote work meant more people were going to… SVtoOC.

they do use white meat but I didn't find it too dry especially with the sauces. If I was just eating it crispy fried it might not be as good as chicken thighs though.

I think BB.Q Chicken in Northpark is really great. Their lunch portion is very generous and I love their sauces. My only note is everything is tamed down spiceyness. If you order something with a litlte spice you taste nothing. If you order something spicy it's mild spicy. But, still really...

The Ralph's in Foothill Ranch is pretty bad. I guess it's fine for getting some veggies and lunchmeat but their meat selection is awful, no good cheese, often sold out of random things etc. I prefer to go further down Lake Forest to the other...Ralphs. Really, the fact that Costco is so...

Since BR was developed, you have had Iron Ridge, The Oaks, Serrano Summit, Terassina, The Meadows, etc. Foothill Ranch has had quite a lot of change.

Yeah I speak for the all the non nutjobs here. It sounds like you are saying you are trying to time the market by having sold and are renting now?

uh, wasn't it you who conflated both buyers and sellers originally? I was just pointint it out. Also, what's your deal? Are you one of those nutjobs who sold their house and makes their family live in a rental while they await the 'crash', but now you're annoyed it didn't happen fast enough...

What the fuck are you talking about lol. 25% downturn in prices would be a *good* thing for people who want to own. Second, at peak I was up ~ 60% from when I bought. At this point I have over a mill in equity. So who gives a shit if I 'lose' another 10%. It's paper money. It's like saying...

Cielo looks like nice floorplans, but plan 1 is pretty close to Highlands 2, no? I loved Highlands, just out of my price range at the time. My house is pretty much a slightly larger toll bros version of Highlands 2 though (with a cooler, more inconvenient staricase. It's the helena plan of...

I think most of us know we have to make tradeoffs when buying a house. I'm not sure why CalBears96 posting about why he dosn't like The Meadows is a bad thing. I don't like the Bluffs. Small kitchen to me, I don't like the yard being on 'the side' of the house (from the front door at least)...

What is your issue with it being lower? Polution? Just general aesthetic? I assume you like being high up since you're in The Bluffs. :) Is Irvine ever going to build shopping by you guys btw?

yeah. but who cares. If house prices go down 25% from the peak... that barely affects anyone. What % of homeowners actually bought between late 2021 and early 2022? 5% or less?

I think some people, in their head, are thinking this might mean down 15% from early 2021 prices. They're not remembering just how absolutely bonkers it got for a brief moment in early 2022. 15% from that insane peak isn't outrageous.

I mean, maybe? If I can get Treasury bonds for 4% and a loan for 4.5% then I should probably not pay cash?

Maybe it's good I didn't take out a HELOC. I guess I'll just be paying cash to redo my backyard now?

please define terms for shit talking.  Are you talking about comparably priced or median priced, are we talking absolute dollars or percentage for putting 20% or what?  Also, where do you live?