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<p><em>Not really, look at the demographics of who buys in Irvine. Usually DINKS, I know my wife and I are.</em> </p> <p>I find it hard to believe that DINK's are the driving force behind Irvine real estate. </p> <p>Where are you getting your information? Can you supply a link? </p>

<p><em>"There are some cities (Laguna Beach, Santa Monica, Honalulu) where everyone acknowleges that home prices have probably become permanently detached from incomes no matter what the state of the market. These cities are "special" in the sense that income-earners are not the ones driving the...

<p>It's amusing to come across the gem posts of "Master planned community X has sold out plan Y in Z days! No housing bust!"</p> <p>Wish I had a nickel everytime...well yeah. </p>

That's interesting. Could it be that all tracts in Columbus Square is only managed by one association? We're looking at both VoC and Portola Springs, but the Mello Roos and HOA aren't quite justifying the purchase in this market. With the glut of inventory we will probably see in the next few...

ummm there are two master associations that you have to pay for at the VoC. You have to pay for both Square and Grove. IIRC, the total HOA I was quoted came out to approximately $260/month. I may be wrong, but I'm almost positive you have to pay association dues on both developments.