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still hoping that bella vista comes in at a price i can afford... *crosses fingers*

I thought we knew this already, i don't think it's additional MR just the original.  Thats why i could never consider beacon park.  I checked out legend and the MR was 15 or 16k with poss 2% increase each year.  Thats like 40k in prop taxes.  Ridiculous.  not sure how they could get an...

I visited today.  They said 3 of 6 first phase homes released sold.  No other sold homes as phases are not released.  Not sure where the 20 number comes from.  Maybe reservations? These homes are TINy btw.  Downstairs are so small.  Lofts are decent i guess.

Wait So u think this is over or underpriced?

the groves or nongroves?

i agree on the view thing, not sure where people are getting these views.  all the homes are at the same elevation, so there are no homes which will be able to see above other ones.  also the ones backing the toll roads will look southwest over the toll road.  perhaps you can see things now...

Views?  Of what?  I drive by varenna every day on the toll road and am not sure what there is to look at from that location.

macys?  come on people who buy a 6.7M home don't shop at macys.

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has anyone been up to see the enclave model homes by toll bros up by yorba linda high?  4700-6000 sq feet, the models are done up ridiculous.  1.8-2.3M base, i'd say 600K-700K upgrades probably with landscaping in the models  toll seems to be really on their game lately.  very nice homes, though...

I was driving to check out la vita and messina and was annoyed at how many cars were parked out on the main street sunset cv where the houses are fully built. Makes the whole area look like some condo development.  Would never pay la vita prices to live there.

it's funny, i was looking at new construction, and they have several '14' homes they can't sell and are in quick move in status.  the guy at the sales office was complaining and saying he would call the irvine company and have them change the numbers.  ha.  like that's gonna happen.

i see.  unfortunately my cash is tied up with lots of other banks, not the one i would get a mortgage from.  oh well.

114 isn't great either.

i got prequaled for 3.25 for 30, what is this 'relationship' thing that i can get down to 3?

i thought only pavilion and beacon had escalating 2% CFDs.  does orchard hills too?

do you feel these homes are nicer than the ones in hidden canyon?  think the prices will be lower, equivalent, or higher?

awesome.  sign me up for a bella vista plan 1.  any more front facades for bella vista?

tristinia?  what are these?

wow.  these homes look pretty nice.  i was hoping for some big homes i could afford up in orchard hills 1/4 but looks like they will be out of my price range.  any guesses on starting price?  2.5-3?