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Sigh...  I truly don't understand why people keep repeating and insisting that Saratoga or any IP detached condos don't own the land even though multiple Saratoga owners confirmed the land ownership after looking at their sales contract docs. I want to finalize this discussion by attaching a...

Yep, you're right. Probably not many people know exact legal difference between SFR and detached condos. Or, maybe they don't really care legal definition. They might think practical factors or price point could be more important. However, I still see some cheesy effort by IP trying to blur...

Yep, it's all up to mighty IP. ;)

There are 4 more driveway Saratoga homes at Saratoga extension tract. Size and spec wise they're true SFR but when I looked at declaration document (submitted by IP to Orange County) they seem to be still detached condos. This is because IP doesn't register them unit by unit, it's more like...

In Irvine, newly built homes without driveway are probably all condos. ;)

Regarding the land ownership: In general, if you live in a detached condo, you own the home and, unlike attached, the land directly under the home. However, without looking at exact contract document, it's not always right Condos do not own the land. I just checked Saratoga contract documents...

Does SFR normally have dedicated lot number? A lot number per house? Saratoga has a lot line and number but normally one lot is shared by 4 detached homes.

You own the land. If you sign your purchase agreement, sales office will give you a bunch of documents that describe your phase, community, common area and lot information etc... One of the document defines your condominium ownership. Each condominium unit is defined by horizontal and vertical...

When I looked at Saratoga model homes at its grand opening last year, I liked Saratoga floor plan but ridiculously small back yard size was deal-breaker to me. So I had never looked back and I waited for other neighbor hoods such as Cypress Village and Great Park. However, I started having a...

Yep true. sorry about that.    I just copy&pasted a text block from the disclosure document and I dont know why text and map indicate different location. (They are in the same disclosure doc but in different pages.)

Actually, the photo of construction site is the athletic field of Crean Lutheran High School.  And #1 is not Gateway Park. It seems Gateway Park is straight north of Stonegate. (Image attached)

Yes, it is.

This could be the Gateway Park? This is copied from recent disclosure document for Stonegate home buyers and it mentioned there will be a public community park along with Orchard Hill construction. "4. Public Community Park Gateway Park, a 71-acre public community park that is planned to...

I'm not a Stonegate resident but I asked Saratoga sales person about MR increase. They said MR bonds in Stonegate is not an increasing fund, so they said it doesn't go up.