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Are you asking what version? I used to read NIV, but I found ESV to be more accurate. NKJV is good also.

I agree forcing can only cause problems. I believe in Christianity and Jesus taught that we believers are to love one another among us so that non-believers would know that we really are God's people. Many churches in America and other places actually implemented other traditions and cultures to...

5-17 were the least infected group from your 3 examples. UC and Cal State mandating is still questionable since they were not the most risked group either. But at least college kids are pretty much grown ups. They can decide on their own to leave or stay in schools that require being vaccinated...

Technically different, but is anything really different for us citizens?

Very well said. So since they can?t make certain age group get vaccinated, they made ?k-12? group mandated. You know K-12 is pretty much all children at 5-17, right? Well 6-18 if you really want to get real technical, but you get the idea. Also keep in mind that I never said we should mandate...

Didn't California just do that? K-12 is now mandated to go to school, no?

The lack of true bible teaching in US churches or anywhere around the world to be honest resulted as such. Too much emotionalism and ?church cultures? took over while the actual teachings about God or Jesus have been lost for centuries. Hence people especially young people tend to leave churches...

Again, not against the vaccine being available. Just stating things that come along when *mandated*. According to your research, the age group of 18-34 and/or 35-49 should be mandated before 5-17 group. The ages of 5-17 should be the third in terms of priority of mandated group here. Why put...

Not sure if hard leaned political views really messed up my mind. I really do understand it's possible and your thinking may be true for some parts, but besides from all those political stuff, I'm just having simple questions as a person not as a politician. I personally never get the flu...

Good luck trying to figure it out in the name of science. BTW someone might actually tell you he/she figured it out as you'd hope in a future. Just know that person is most likely the Anti-Christ who Jesus warned us about.

That's how eyephone would analyze. And I get it that it's easy to think that way. But if you read really carefully what I'm posting, have I ever mentioned about some random person from Youtube about anything? I don't care if someone is REAL or NOT REAL expert. The information that person is...

I don't follow things just because the "experts" say so. It's like Stone Cold Steve Austin - "Because I said so." I ask questions and test before I put my trust in anything, not just on the vaccine. Yes, Covid-19 killed many, but we're now having advanced technology and science to even make...

@zubs, I haven?t really expressed my position on pro or not on mandating the vaccine in this discussion. I just always have lots of questions. I think it?s a bit stretch to add the covid vaccine on the list of school requirement, but I don?t have power to change what the government decides to do...

You just have to read or listen really carefully into the articles. There are more than just what the headline says most of the time. Find me where they asked their members not to admit it. I'll gladly look into it. And let me correct you if you don't mind. God is not science. God created...

You're right. Thanks for proving me wrong. I counted hospitalization instead of estimated symptomatic illnesses. Calculated again and Influenza death rates have been less than 0.1%. I admit I miscalculated here. My apologies.

The same may go with you, my friend. If you are against that church, there is nothing I can do. I'm only stating facts. If you think I'm wrong, prove me wrong. I'm more than happy to admit I'm wrong if I am.

Adding... I did some search now and it looks like the head pastor there also may have been contracted covid himself. He said he took 2 weeks off and came back fine. It looks like this happened end of last year. So I'm not sure where you think they were hiding anything.

First, you said Grace Church sued the city/county for all that money. I explained it was not about money but was about being a church which gathers people weekly and to get their parking spot back. The church was sued first and the parking spot was shut by the state so they had to defy the order...

I see. Didn't California just make it mandate for K-12 to be vaccinated?

To be more accurate, influenza has higher death rate than Covid-19. We had more Covid-19 cases thus more deaths occurred, but strictly speaking of percentage rates, Influenza has higher death rate. Covid is about 1.6% while influenza about 7% in general. I guess you're saying you're ok with...